The following is the translation of a talkback from the Ynet Hebrew-language news website by a reader identified only as "Drorah", which was posted in response to a previous talkback by a reader identified as "Samer". The article the generated the two readers' exchange of views was titled: "Sheikh Salah: Lieberman, We Will Yet Trample You" from November 10, 2008.

A Small Correction for the Author of the Article!! We Are Not "Israeli Arabs"

We are not Israeli Arabs... We are Palestinian citizens of the State of Israel. And our citizenship is a technical matter that includes an Israeli passport and ID card that we show at the request of those institutions that ask for them.

We are Arab Palestinians. We are not the Arabs of this state.

We have a nationality, according to which we are Arab Palestinians. We are not the Arabs of this state and we do not agree to be associated with it in any way.

You are without a nationality. You have a religion that is called Judaism!!! And you belong to that, and nothing else!!! Your only creation is the Hebrew language. Aside from that, you have not succeeded in creating anything in the 58 years that you remained here as occupiers of another people's land!!

You are simply a people without a culture, and without any past to be justifiably proud of. You are merely individuals who gathered from the diaspora, you arrived with arrogance, in order to exercise your right to self-determination at the expense of another people's same right.

Peace Rabin-style you murdered forever! So... shame on you, because we have no more to say to you. And I am avoiding all sweeping generalizations here. I have Jewish friends who are like brothers to me, and I respect each and every one of them. But there are those nations that, in order to exist, deny the existence of another nation.

Samer, Haifa

Response to 84, Samer from Haifa

Samer from Haifa,

There is not a single Arab in the State of Israel or in the territory of the Land of Israel who does not have an Arab homeland (and for that reason you are "Arabs").

You invaded/trickled into/infiltrated the Land of Israel with the protection, encouragement and support of the Ottoman occupier and of the British occupier, but you did not therefore become owners or sovereigns.

Open a world map, Arab from Israel. You will find that the area of the Arab countries (22) is bigger than that of the continent of Europe; and that the area of all the Muslim countries (56) covers one-third of the globe. An indescribably massive territory; oil resources and unfathomable wealth.

So, on the face of it, it seems really okay that the Jewish people has one teeny-tiny state of its own, without having to divide it with another Muslim Arab people. No?

And let me tell you a few things about the Palestinian "people". You are not a people. You are a Muslim fiction with one single purpose - to conquer the Land of Israel.

Let's begin with your name. The Romans conquered Israel and called it, in an act of occupation, Provincia Palaestina - named after the Philistines who settled the Israeli coastal cities. The Philistines were red-haired seafarers who arrived at Israel's shores from Europe and disappeared from our region about 1,600 years before Muhammad was born.

The Arabs, who originate from the Arabian Peninsula, have no connection whatsoever to the Philistines - not genetically, not religiously, not culturally, not historically and not geographically. You are Arabs and not Philistines. By the same token, the Romans could have called Israel Provincia Schweizaria. Would that have made you Swiss?

And as for the Land of Israel, Samer from Haifa, choose any historical record, any historical map, any historian recognized by the international academic community

You are a Muslim fiction with one single purpose - to conquer the Land of Israel.

that will show us where Palestine is; when there was ever in human history a state or land called "Palestine; when there was ever in human history a nation called "the Palestinian people". Who are you? Where did you come from? And what is your connection to the territories of the Land of Israel? You are unable to find one single detail anywhere in the world, including among Arab and Muslim researchers (including the Koran, in which the Land of Israel is called "the land of the people of Israel"), that supports your claims.

There are British records from the period of the British Mandate, Turkish records from the Ottoman period, records of all the occupations that have taken over the Land of Israel - there is no mention of a Palestinian people or a Palestinian State.

And so, let us agree that if you find any record at all (that is not part of the Palestinian propaganda that retroactively alters historical facts) of your national existence and presence in the Land of Israel, we will then have something to start with.

You are an incidental collection of factions and factionalism from around the Muslim world that hate each other almost... almost as much as you hate us. That is, in effect, the only thing that unites you - hatred for the Zionists. That is the most pathetic basis upon which to establish a people!

In 1948 the number of Arabs in the Land of Israel was equal to the number of Jews in Arab lands. The 20th Century was a century of migration and population exchange across the entire globe. All the Jews of Arab lands migrated to their homeland Israel; all the Arabs from Israel were supposed to migrate back to their Arab homelands.

Not only did you not do so, you continued to infiltrate and penetrate into the territory of Israel in every clever way possibly imaginable. And the feeble policy of the State of Israel made it possible for you.

In practice, you currently have a Palestinian State, which is Jordan. But you want three Palestines for yourselves: Jordan; "New Palestine" to be established in Gaza and the West Bank; and, of course, the Israeli Arabs who see themselves as Palestinians will continue to live in Israel and bring more and more Palestinian "brothers" to them from around the world. Thus, in another decade or two the Jews will be a minority in their land and Israel too will become Palestine. That's not for us.

Therefore, this is what will ultimately happen, even if our Left is spreading delusions that fill your hearts with great hope: you will have to return to your homeland. It will happen peacefully or by the sword.

Over the years (with the Zionist settlement), you have adopted for yourselves the Jewish ethos. That is, the

This is what will ultimately happen, even if our Left is spreading delusions.

holiness of Jerusalem and the return to Zion. You may have built a mosque in the center of the Jewish Holy of Holies (a popular Muslim tradition worldwide), but your holy city is Mecca, not Jerusalem, and you have a "right of return" only to your Arab homeland, not to Zion.

In conclusion, I recommend to you a likable book filled with humor. It's called Innocents Abroad, written by an author named Samuel Clemens (known by his nickname Mark Twain). In 1867, he traveled the length and breadth of Israe. He saw here no Palestinians, no verdant orchards, no Arab villages and no teeming cities. Nothing. He saw, and described, neglect, swamps, cholera, malaria, sand. "A mournful expanse" is how he described the Land of Israel. Everything here in this Garden of Eden called Israel was built by Jewish genius. It is no surprise that you and your brethren covet it!

And if you are sitting in your house connected to electricity and typing a reply on a computer, that is because the Zionists organized a state here that allows you a standard of living that is completely different from that of 99% of your sisters in the Arab states.

An Israeli Jewish citizen, owner of this place.

Drorah, the Negev