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AddReply(462789,"????","Jewish Parent","","07/12/09","Someone we know asked if a Jewish parent would rather his son be gay than straight and married to a non-Jewish woman. We didn\'t know what to answer!!");
AddReply(460320,"Gay Parade","Sandra","USA","07/06/09","I agree we are to love the sinner and hate the sin, but this sin flaunted in the streets of Jerusalem grieves my heart more than anything has in a long time. It is time for Israel to wake up,  and turn away from these wicked ways, so that the L-rd can heal the land completely. \n\nSha\'alu Shalom Y\'rushalaim");
AddReply(459356,"BHS (49), you expected sophistication here?","sk","USA","07/03/09","I could be wrong, but I have yet to find evidence of sophistication anywhere in Israel--just lots of authoritarian personalities who comfort themselves with dumb catchphrases.  That some of these cp\'s purport to derive from Torah and others from Ben Gurion and Rabin, is a relatively minor issue.\n\nNow in fairness, American Jewry doesn\'t dazzle either, but the comparison with Israeli Jewry is wholy in America\'s favor.");
AddReply(459011,"Good time had by all","BHS","Dallas / Tel Aviv","07/02/09","I would think that level of sophistication would be higher here. Very disappointing. The parades will go on...hate will fade away, and biggots will ALWAYS be marginalized.");
AddReply(458348,"Gay","Sickened","Israel","07/01/09","If a person has the problem of being gay, why does he or she have to flaunt it?? I personally find it sickenening.");
AddReply(458298,"somewhere else","S","la","07/01/09","I think that if they want to do the parade, do it somewhere else. Don\'t do it in Jerusalem, the holiest city.  If they want respect, they should also give it.  \n\nThey should realize that if homosexual activity is forbidden, then there has to be a Possibility to change yourself, because G-d would\'t make it forbidden if nothing can be done.  Yes it\'s extremely hard to do so, but with a lot of effort and support, it can be done.  ");
AddReply(457882,"I guess I should have read the article, LOL!","Rob","eutopia","06/30/09","I love the picture of the drag queen relay runners. having grown up in the land of fruits and nuts, gay parades are nothing new to me, in fact I find them digustingly entertaining however [..]");
AddReply(457577,"Oh NO! The same thing that happened..","Jason Bellybudge","","06/30/09","to Yvonne, Cary appears to have happened to Meira - you aliens - what did you do with Meira - somebody check her basement for \'pods!\'\n\nBe careful all you \'J\'lem Dans\' - you may be next on their list. Just realize your only hope is Tamar Yonah - only T.Y\'s super-powers can  bring you back!");
AddReply(457305,"Dan #5,I love that stuff!","Rob","usa","06/29/09","And we aint to far from soylent green tuesday neither! But I\'m ready to be the first to shout IT\"S PEOPLE!, SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!!!");
AddReply(457181,"Dr. Stern gets no respect!","sk (Dr.)","USA","06/29/09","It\'s hard to understand why.  Based on his blogspot, it seems that the part of his protest that he is most proud of is a sign reading \"NO FLAGS of FAGS HERE.\"  This stratospheric level of discourse is sure to have the desired effect.\n\nOther highlights of the protest included failed \"Kahanists\" Marzel, Ben-Gvir, and our own ineffectual Shifra.\n\nNot that I would ever challenge the right of protest!  Not me!  However, since Dr. Stern objects to free speech and political assembly, I hope he won\'t blather about free speech, etc., when Israeli Bolsheviks arrest people like Nadia Matar for likening Bassi to the Judenrat.\n\nWhat I notice (by its absence) is any evidence of the kind of undress that is typically found in pride marches.\n\nAnyway, I\'ve spent more time here than I intended to.  Keep focusing on trivialities, people!  Doing so will make you feel great!  Empowered! Alas, none of that will make any difference when the missiles fall on your heads.");
AddReply(457119,"MENTAL ILLNESS","CB ","USA","06/29/09","LGBTQ, I personally bevlieve that it is an abbreviation for nut case pure and simple. I have worked with these type of individuals and know first hand that they are insane. Any individual who fits into the LGBTQ category is most likely to be insane in more than one area. \n\nDelusions of grandeur with these people can be very funny (this is assuming you do not work with them)\n\nWe saw how tolerant they are with Miss California. I really do not believe they can understand the concept ot tolerance.\n\nI hope I have insulted the LGBTQ crowd, they do not deserve understanding or respect. If the LGBTQ is not perverts then who is?\n\nBEST WISHES (BE SAFE)*\nCB\n*EXCEPT THE LGBTQ ");
AddReply(457116,"To Meira, (#39)","","","06/29/09","What is up with you?  Where was Dr. Stern (#38) saying loshon harah?  It seems you are the one spreading loshon harah, for no good reason.  You are speaking here of wonderful women and people, in general, who really care of what is going on in E.Y. and the rest of the world.  We are literally in the throes of chevlei Moshiach and are witnessing unbelievable events.   We need achdut (in the real sense), not nit-picking on inanities.  Because of Tamar Yonah, you have a place where you can express your feelings and halevai, all bnot Yisroel were like her and Dr. Stern.  May they go from strength to strength!");
AddReply(457115,"Not all of us march....","Anon","USA","06/29/09","I want to apologize for this parade esp in the Holy City. Not all of us march to me the march is disgusting and full of obsenity...some of try to do our best and do mitzvot..hoping Hashem will show mercy on us.This to me is extremely personal.How can they not expect people to react negatively when they put themselves in the spotlight.I would not wish any one of you to have to face this struggle.But even with this brokeness I am blessed with the ability to see people where they are...show mercy and understanding and try to lift them up to show that Hashem has a purpose for his creation.I do not rejoice when others fall to any sin...because I have been there...and someone picked me up, dusted me off and told me Hashem still loves me...and you have a job to do...pray for them...and all of Israel.");
AddReply(456923,"More lashon ha\'ra #38","Meira","Yerushalayim","06/28/09","Dr. Stern, you, as a Jew, have no right to post such a thing on a public web site.  this is why I gave up going into the Virtual Studio there is too much lashon ha\'ra coming from those who should know better, who are looked up to as icons of Jewish values and yet who display hatred towards other Jews who are not yet firmly on the Derech.  Those who elevate themselves to the status of teacher publicly incur a greater judgment for such sin. Not only do you create a chillul Hashem by publicly upbraiding me, you place a huge stumbling block in our paths because you lure us into reacting with our old neshamas. \n\nI went to the blog and I can\'t tell where you were standing but WOW! if you were far away, that\'s some telephoto lens you\'ve got since I did see a picture of a guy with a rainbow flag. So if your camera caught  a marcher, how could you avoid seeing them with your eyes? \n \nSee, hard to stay on the derech but I\'m asking a fair question.  Don\'t speak unless you are sure of your information.  I am restraining myself here, you can\'t imagine how much.\n\nAnyway, I was hoping that talkbacks would be a little better than a chat room for reasonable discourse. That was naive of me. These boards are a breeding ground of evil and the worst evil speech. \nGood bye.\n\nTamar responds:\nDear Meira, \nI do not understand why you felt the need to attack people here.  Instead you could have chosen a more positive route of trying to contribute, build, and help.  \nHowever, I think if you are accusing people here of \'lashon harah\' (evil speech), perhaps you should look in the mirror?  \nI would also suggest that you study the wonderful book by the Chafetz Chaim on the laws of \'lashon harah\' entitled, \"Guard Your Tongue\".  See:  http://www.chofetzchaimusa.org/  ");
AddReply(456875,"To Meira, a response","D.S. , MD","KA","06/28/09","Meira,\n\nIf you had bothered to access the link Tamar gave, you would have seen that we demonstrated FAR AWAY from the parade; we did not actually have to look at them, which I am very happy about. What we did is DEFEND THE HONOR, THE KAVOD OR YERUSHALAYIM IR HAKODESH.\n\nYou seem to me to be a very nasty and angry person, maybe you need to look at that before you attack others.\n\nD. Stern, MD");
AddReply(456747,"Tamar and Dan","Meira","Yerushalayim","06/28/09","Tamar, I\'m not getting into a hissy fit schoolgirl fight with you and your minions. I said the parade should be protested, I never said women should be the ones doing the protest. Now Dr. Stern is the one bringing up mitzvot and drawing comparisons with how many each of us has done.  I\'m not attacking those who are willing to do something because apparently no one was willing to do anything. Why didn\'t you and Dr. Stern get the word out so others could join in? Why did I, who lives in Jerusalem have to read that the parade was taking place in a Haredi web site based in Brooklyn?  And then the focus of their article was to ignore the abomination so they gave no details as to when and where.\nI could say more but this isn\'t the place and please stop, you and your friends, referring to me as your sister. It is condescending. Sisterhood is more than DNA.\n\nDan, I\'ve been influenced by R. Bar Tzadok except when I slip up. We\'re still on the road, ALL of us. Mayor Barkat IS our leader and that is why I asked Tamar if she knew of a legal way to get him out of office.  However, rather than give a cogent and useful answer,  the hormones raged and as anthropologists have shown, that tends to be a contagious condition. I\'ve been ganged up on so I will say no more. \nI agree, our Mayor needs to be replaced but there is a way to do that without resorting to hissy fits = lashon ha\'ra. \n");
AddReply(456713,"Meira, you were too nice to Mayor Barkat","Dan ","Jerusalem","06/28/09","Barkat promised to use his influence to accelerate work on the light rail and the fast train to Tel-Aviv.\n\nThey have 3 workers lifting a bolt every few hours on the light rail.  \n\nAt that rate, it should be finished some time during the presidential administration of Chelsea Clinton.");
AddReply(456672,"abominatiom","Shoshana","Tqplow","06/28/09","I certainly do protest. These people defy Hashem in a blatant and public way which will have reprecussions in the future. They seem to be oblivious to the immense offence they give especially to parents who want to protect their children");
AddReply(456653,"the design teaches us","mark sheekey","dublin","06/28/09","hi everybody concerning homosexuality,in the late 90s i prayed to hashem i wanted to know how i could argue the case that people are not born homosexuals,straight away friends i saw that homosexuality is not something you are but something you do its an act or behaviour,something you indulge in ,many people through different situations in life get into it,wether its starts at home in college in a situation that first started your first act,anyway when i prayed here is my answer hashem gave to me its all based on design,as i prayed i saw a hand attempting to put a dvd  into a video cassette recorder and a voice said that does not go in their,then i saw a hand attempting to put a video cassette into a dvd player again a voice said that does not go in their,they are both designed for their own players or machines,then i saw a transparant woman with all her bodily functions the womb etc and a man beside her transparant with all his bodily functions,friends hashem showed me by the design of a man and woman,you can see the woman is designed to recieve the man and the man designed to be with the woman ,the womb recieves the mans sperm which in turn acts as an incubater for the 9 months ,which then the breasts produce the milk for the child etc,friends its all about design,if you saw anyone anywere trying to put the dvd disc into a video player you would speak up straight away,and say hey that does not go in that machine,well thats how it is man was not designed for man nor woman for woman,i want to end with something important,hashem tells us from torah their is pleasure in sin,moses gave up the pleasures of egypt to be with his people,a bank robber gets pleasure from his robbed millions an adulterer gets pleasure in his adultrous act,and im sures gay people will say they get pleasure from their behaviour,yes but it does not mean its right,so friends let me finish by saying that as hashem showed me let the design teach you,shalom to all of you and let me remind those indulging in homosexuality hashem wants no one to perish but all to come to repentence he takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked,its a serious habbit you must turn from,be blessed and thank you for listening,");
AddReply(456639,"Dr.Stern     (plus a response from Tamar)","Meira","Yerushalayim","06/28/09","Let me ask you something Dr. Stern.\nDid you witness the marchers? Did putting their behavior into your eyeballs and maybe your ears do your neshama any good? How are you coping with THAT tumah? Did sullying your mind and soul accomplish a greater good for Israel or is it the cause of this attack on reasonable people who disagree with you and your friend.\nThere\'s a reason more   women weren\'t there. It is immodest to be out in the streets like that, raising your voice and making a spectacle of yourself.  Viewing such a display is also equivalent to watching internet porn. And my dear Doctor, G-d doesn\'t compare my \'bag\" of mitzvot to Tamar\'s or yours or anyone else\'s. He compares it only to what I know and am responsible for myself. \nThat\'s how He does it for everyone. That you imply your superiority in this matter, well, I\'d check to be sure my \"bag\" doesn\'t have a leak somewhere if I were you. \n\n \nMy whole point was Tamar has POWER that she failed to use. If she couldn\'t do more than write a NEWS article in an untimely manner, perhaps this one time, she should have stayed away from the computer. Maybe a couple of hours at the Dead Sea would have done everyone more good if it recharged her batteries so that she could come back with something relevant. She\'s human. Accept it.    \nWhat good did filing her article too late accomplish except to have a couple of groupies speak lashon ha\'ra against another Jew in a public forum? \nI asked Tamar a fair question. \"Since it was too late to gather/join a protest, what could she do now?\" That\'s not an attack. \nI\'d really like to know if there\'s something under Israeli law that lets us rid ourselves of this mayor.  SHE knows or can find out and SHE has the POWER to get the word out.\n That is the power of the press. All this blogging is so much nonsense and distraction as SK says.  And on that point, I agree with SK that the Amalekites on the Temple Mount are a serious question but it\'s Moshiach\'s job to get rid of them.\nAnd there is nothing we can do to alter the time of his arrival. It\'s all up to Hashem as is all this \"stuff\" that\'s going on here. We could find much better ways to occupy ourselves in a way that promotes Torah and fills our \"bags\" with Mitzvot. \n\nTamar responds:  \nMeira, we learn in Judaism, \"derech eretz kadma l\'Torah\"  (for those who do not know Hebrew the approximate meaning is \"being a mentsch ( a good person) comes before learning/keeping the Torah. or, \"good character traits precede Torah\")  I think a more helpful response then would have been less of an attack against me and more of \'additional helpful ideas to add to it\' and taking on an extra mitzvah. \n\nI would also like to know why you are now attacking Dr. Stern for showing up and protesting the Gay Pride Parade when you wrote in your first talk back that that is what should be done...  Here is what you wrote in talkback # 3...\n\n[quote] \"Now nothing can be done while you sit on your Yesha mountaintop, my neighborhood, in the center of Jerusalem gets polluted with this filth. If you really meant what you wrote, you would come up here with a banner and your articulate voice and make your opinion known.\"\n\nIsn\'t that exactly what Dr. Stern did?  And now you are attacking her for exactly what you wrote should be done.  Please make up your mind Meira.  And please, my Jewish sister,  stop attacking those who are willing to actually do something to stand against this \'parade\' whether it is by speaking up or standing up.  One would hope people would be supporting and encouraging them, not condemning and attacking them.  \nWith blessings for all good things, tamar");
AddReply(456629,"Mr? Opinionated","Meira","Yerushalayim","06/28/09","You sound more like a woman using a pseudonym. My hormones are none of your business nor that of the readers of this blog. But back to yours. Most men have given up on the hormone argument when a woman is direct and they have a ahrd time with it. They realize we are ADULTS and in control of ourselves.  That comment is typical of a snarky woman who is incapable of adult communication so she snipes at her  \"dear sisters\" in public to humiliate them. You really wish you could have my honesty and directness but you can\'t so you attack the very thing you admire, my forthrightness. I got you \"where you live\" and it\'s uncomfortable. Tamar is a big girl and doesn\'t need your defending her.  She can write to me herself if she\'s bothered by my words. So far she hasn\'t. I would suggest to you as her friend that if she is a fragile as you are making her seem, (another back door attack on someone you admire) that you talk to her and encourage her to really take a break.  \nNO, MISTER, it\'s not my hormones that need care, get yourself to a good  gynecologist. \n");
AddReply(456619,"Demonstrating with Tamar","Dr. D. Stern","Israel","06/27/09","Tamar is my friend; we have demonstrated together more than once; she is a mother of five, a wife, and works like a dog day and night for Am Yisrael. So whoever attacks her in any way better remember that : how is YOUR Zechut doing? Is your bag of Miztvot fuller than hers?\n\nThis said, I am one of only TWO adult women who went to demonstrate against the gay parade yesterday, as I have since 2002, the year the Jerusalem Open House held their first parade ( I missed one year when I was out of the country).\n\nThere were barely 30 people at this demonstration, out of a Jewish population in Israel of about 6 million. Granted, the Haredim also held a protest in their neighborhood, they deserve credit for that, and I understand in Bnei Brak there were some protests that turned violent; may those Jews be blessed.\n\nBut overall the Jewish people has been cowed, threatened, frightened, and simply exhausted by the relentless WAR being waged against us by MIGHTY FORD FOUNDATION DOLLARS. The Ford Foundation is a notorious ENEMY OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE.\n\nPlease go visit my blog, ISRAEL TRUTH TIMES   www.IsraelTruthTimes.blogspot.com  There are plenty of entries about the gay parade in Jerusalem, starting last week. It is worth reading the content in general, to get an idea of the significance of these events. There are also some pictures of the protest in Kikar Paris yesterday.\n\nSome of you might experience a problem accessing the blog, as some of our enemies have played with it. I am trying to correct the problem.\n\nTamar, yasher koach for everything you do.");
AddReply(456408,"Naturally, I first comment was censored.","sk","USA","06/26/09","I guess the truth--that the pride parade is one big distraction from the issue of Bnei Amalek\'s presence on the Temple Mount--hurts.  Someone who really cared about Torah would have his priorities straight.  Shalit is a distraction too.\n\n95% of Israeli voters voted against National Union.  Even worse, most Israeli voted in the first place, which just reinforces the status quo.  Not a single prominent INN personality has built even a single real settlement (i.e., a defensible fort).  These are examples of important facts--they are what really matter.");
AddReply(456393,"Sodomites","Donna","Australia","06/26/09","Sodomites will not stop until they silence every voice that dares to\nobject to their destructive behavior. Most of all they want to stop anyone from stating God’s opinion. Promiscuity has become the norm in our society and the sodomites are the most promiscious group of all, there average life span is only 40 years tho. What does that tell you about the fruits of their lifestyle?\n\nLeviticus 20:13: If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.\n\nSodomites not only defile themselves they are defiling the land, let alone Gods holy land, imagine what God must be thinking. People who are effeminate are homosexuals and probably pedophiles also.\nGod wanted a man and a woman to be fruitful and have children, not to become a fruit and recruit. God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. They are trying to infiltrate public schools to teach my children they are normal, instead I read to my children the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.\n\nSo God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it (Genesis 1:27-28).\n\nHomosexuality is truthfully considered an abomination and a crime against nature and against God. In the Old Testament, people caught in homosexual acts were put to death usually by stoning. The sin of homosexual activity is totally condemned in the Holy Scriptures. Dont be silenced by the sodomities, speak out!!!");
AddReply(456311,"Meira,,,#25","Mr. Opinionated","","06/26/09","As abominable as this J\'lem gay march is, \"they\" (the evil powers within your govt) would have done it regardless of whatever Tamar did, or said. \n\nAs well, this march is but small stuff, and will be forgotten in a relatively short time, due to the MEGA OBAMINATIONS on the horizon.\n\nTherefore, my complaint is not really \'what\' you said, but \'how\' you said it. In time, I think (once your harmones have settled down) you will be embarrassed.");
AddReply(456250,"To Meira, you\'ve got a point(#26)","Mensch","","06/26/09","");
AddReply(456112,"Comma & Malka","Meira","Yerushalayim","06/26/09","Comma, I have every right to speak. Who are you to censor me? For someone who claims to not be interested in politics you have  a lot to say.\n\nMalka, Barkat is a cyincal Globalist. He said right out in public he wants Jerusalem to be an \"International Destination City\" where EVERYONE is welcome to come and VACATION  and not feel that other\'s BELIEFS are being IMPOSED on them. \nHe also insists that the law provides for the Abominators to parade so he can\'t ban them without breaking the law.  Well, I\'m not sure about that but let\'s assume it\'s true.   He has done nothing to try to change the law nor does he intend to.  He was quite honest in his speech to Anglos before the election. They just didn\'t want to hear it because he\'s relatively young, personable, English speaking and relatively new to the political scene.  Gaydamak was thrown in as a spoiler and took votes form R. Porush who was viewed as a political retread as well as being haredi. Barkat is an entrepreneur multi-millionaire who promised to use those skills to bring jobs to Jerusalem as well. He knows what the religious community thinks and he doesn\'t care. Witness his cynical re-opening of the Safra parking  without  even trying to reach an understanding with the haredim.  To their credit the courts overruled him and ordered it remain closed on Shabbat while re-opening the Karta lot with non-Jewish workers. \nHe is Israel\'s Obama. He is a smooth talker and wants to be emperor. ");
AddReply(456107,"Mr. Opinionated","Meira","Yerushalayim","06/26/09","Well with thanks for the positive things you said I have to answer. Tamar is a human being and she errs. I make no icons out of \"personalities\" Where I live isn\'t just \"my neighborhood,\" it\'s the neighborhood of ALL Jews because it\'s the heart of Jerusalem.  \nI know Tamar is busy and I recognized her burn out however if you would be less indignant and thin a bit yourself, you would have read that I wrote that she, as one having the power to be heard has an obligation to use that power and not just write to tell the rest of us that we should do good deeds. WE need to do good deeds all the time not one day a year. \nI\'m sorry, Tamar, doesn\'t \"deal\" with any scope of issues. She reports them. That is good and necessary work but if you chose to merely report the news, then do it in timely fashion. This story should have ben out last week so that perhaps soem could mobiliize. I didn\'t even know there was going to be a parad until I read it in Voz Is Neias after last Shabbat. Because they reported from the haredi point of view of ignoring it, I didn\'t have details. A7 chose not to run the story. I think you indignation would be better directed at them for supressing important info.");
AddReply(456095,"unattentiveness, on good and evil.","Joseph A. Cleary","Sand Springs,","06/26/09","The subject is true, I\'ve been learning my lessons, nothing earth shaking which is new.\nI pray that all should be well and all should have a Shavua Tov and a good Shabbis.\nShalom,Shalom, Yosef of Oklahoma");
AddReply(456084,"another view..","yvonne","cary","06/26/09","the issues touched on in this blog are not new; they have always existed. At age 75 I know about a time when people did not only not discuss it, they did not know about it. I remember some fifty plus years ago asking a medical student if he thought such and such was gay. He had never heard of it. Said it did not exist. I had a problem! Well, I was not sure myself. Did it exist? What happened in those good olden days? Gays and Lesbians got married and lived a lie, simple as that. Amsterdam was always a little ahead of the rest of the world, and shortly thereafter gay bars and nightclubs opened. But it was not announced as such. Often you could not even see it. I once went into an establishment, a deli, to buy a sandwich and..was not served. After a long time someone came out to speak to me. He was the son of a former employer. He was married, had four kids, and..was gay. The restaurant appeared to serve men and women. It was rather upscale. However, the women were also men. I could not see that, I was told that..by the son of my former boss, who made me promise not to tell anyone, especially not his father! That was life then. For some, a pack of lies. So, what is better? It is possible that the wives of such men never found out. They probably never did. I think it is better that it is out in the open. Parades? No. Dress up - not in public. Sex in public, not for anyone, neither straight nor gay. Adaptation of society and some workable rules and regulation we all can live with? Probably best. What do you say? This goes a little beyond that labelthrowing and judgement we usually dish up here, and, in my opinion does not solve anything,, and does not even lead to any kind of rational discussion. Does it change what Torah says about it, or what it is? No. It just changes how I interact with others. I have my own problems to work with, as I am not at all perfect. ");
AddReply(456074,"I do not believe..","yvonne","cary","06/26/09","that the specific groups that are the subject of this blog are striving for a *nannystate*. A *Nannystate* is a derogatory word for a Democracy with rights, regulations and provisions, such as healthcare and schools, and the word is being used by conservatives. I do not think that is the gay agenda. Nor do I think they are for abortion or destroying families. Abortion is not a part of their specific problems, and they do not wish to destroy families, they want to mimic and make their own kind of families. Unfortunately, with modern technology, and new laws and regulations that can now be done. That is exactly why it has become part of the discussion. They want recognition that they exist and have the right to exist. In the U.S. they want to marry and have tax benefits which are now reserved for married people (with families). If that is their purpose, it is not relevant for them to dress up, have parades, or to be offensive to others by marching in areas which are considered sacred or out of bounds for such parades. Of course, with this subject too, Mr. Obama is pulled into the *discussion* on this thread. He is not gay, and he does not have an agenda, but gay persons, like others are part of the population and he is their President too. If he invites them in for a discussion, or conference, that is a place where they can be heard and can argue. It is off the streets. They will have to dress appropriately, and adult subjects remain between adults there. So far, # 10, Mr. Obama has not endorsed all the demands of the gay communities, such as the changes they want in the U.S. military, on rights to marry, which he considers to be for a man and a woman, etc. Gays are acting out, like so many do, when they feel they are being ignored, not being heard, or are being trivialized. They have always existed, apparently, but today many taboos of society have been broken, and they demand *their rights*. And they do have the right not to be accosted, to live their lives, etc. I am not gay. I do not understand it, but I know people who are gay, and some of them since birth. One or two of those were always different. Just as I do not delve in other people\'s sexuality, nor discuss it, when they are, like me, straight, so I do not do so with gays. To judge something I do not understand is not appropriate. When I deal with another person it is on a level of intellect, friendship, family bonds, etc. In such context there never is a problem. Gay people do not act out. There is nothing to prove or defend, and at parties they behave like everyone else. If we judge others, we should not be surprised if they, in turn, judge us. If we have unflattering positions on others, and express those in unpleasant ways, we will get that back, with interest. Here is my example of the letter again. I will never forget it, because I was shown this twice, as a child, first by my father, then by my uncle. Write a letter, tear it up, throw it in the wind, then try to find all the pieces and put it back together. Works especially well when it rains too. Words get smudged, pieces of paper stick everywhere. It is a lesson in l\'shon hara. ");
AddReply(456066,"Dan, Jerusalem...","yvonne","cary","06/26/09","Hm, very long post. What does a *nannystate* have to do with a gay parade? I guess you are NOT for a *nannystate*. You might be, I think, for free will capitalism. There is a little problem, though. In some countries the currency is devaluating, and/or there may be such increased cost because of inflation, that both parent AND the teenage children must work. That means, Dan,that even though there is no *nannystate*, the young children are farmed out, to nannies, or to worse situations. In that case a *nannystate* might be preferable. Also, IF teenagers go to work for substantial timeblocks they do not have that time available for study. If they still want to keep up and get A\'s they work/study around the clock, are dead tired all the time, and really the dollars they make @ the fast food store go directly into electronics and clothes (i.e. China). I have some inkling about this as all my kids went through school that way and my grandchildren are finishing up College in similar fashion. No *nannystate* for sure, but I amnot certain anything is gained. At least, I am happy that I had the luxury not to have to work while a student. In the U.S., after having done all that working, getting the degrees, we still do not have a *nannystate*, but capitalists, many of them, after all that work are homeless (foreclosure) and unemployment is high and getting higher. Healthcare was out of orbit and out of sight, even with insurance and with money. Most people have other concerns than the plight of certain specific groups when they have no roof over their heads. Rather than being liked, I would say, it is important to like. One has no control over others\' inclinations and feelings, but we all have some control over our own. I have learned, with difficulty I must confess, to do that, and for me, at least, it works.");
AddReply(456018,"To Meira","","","06/26/09","Pkease cool it!");
AddReply(456010,"Let\'s see if my TB will be posted.","sk","USA","06/26/09","Interesting that shortly after I sent my TB, #14-18 were posted here.  Of course, there could just be a backlog.\n\nI was foolish to read INN after a healthy 1-month vacation in SE Asia.  I guess I will need periodic booster shots against caring about Israel.  I hope this will not be required forever.  There needs to be a vaccine!\n\nAs for the TBs, they are unexpectedly poor.  The only interesting one (not to say that I agreed with it, just that it showed some cerebration) was Paul\'s (14).\n\nThere were some comic highlights, though.  yvonne, who voted for the Obamanation, turns out to be the lowest form of Liberal Dem:  the homophobic Liberal Dem, lacking even the merit of coherence.\n\nThen we have the Xians (including the Mormon #18) who shamelessly opine on Jerusalem when they proselitize there.  Talk about abominable!\n\nOf course, many of the Jews predicted years ago that the Big Guy was sure to blast Israel because of previous pride parades.  Now such predictions are not made.  I wonder why?\n\nSince Mike & I left INN, it has deteriorated.  Oh well.\n\nNext year in Jerusalem.  Not!");
AddReply(455895,"Hashem Help us","Chris","Salt Lake","06/25/09","Tamar,\n\nI totally agree with you and I also protest this evil act that is taking place in the Holy Land.  This world that we live in has totally turned their backs on the Most High the Holy One of Israel.  We have sined against the Holy One.  We kill the unborn child who has no voice, and we make a mockery of Marriage between a man and women has it is written in the law.  I just pray that the Most High the Holy One of Israel that His Mecy be upon us.  And I pray that His Love always be upon Jerusalem and all of Israel.  May He always bless you and all your family and friends and all who seek after His Mighty Love with His Arms of Protection of Love, and May only His Love and Mercy follow you everywhere you go.  ");
AddReply(455883,"What is the worst thing..","yvonne","cary","06/25/09","if you give a performance, or hold a parade? I think it would be that no one shows up or pays any attention to it. You, Tamar, are actually playing into their objectives with this blog and the accompanying pictures. I have no opinion on homosexuality and associated outliers of life\'s sexuality. I do think, though, that we should not flaunt and exhibit any sexuality in an attentiongetting manner. I grew up in Amsterdam, and it was all around there. As long as you stay out of their areas and parts of town, you will be fine. When I lived in Amsterdam, I also did not visit the Red Light District, but rather I made it a point to make a very big circle around it. The point of this parade, obviously, is to get notoriety. So the most poignant protest against it is to ignore it. Do not promote business where it happens, or buy a thing on that day there. If it becomes a loss for merchants, it will be moved elsewhere, or disappear completely.");
AddReply(455839,"Meira,,,# 3 - was it really...","Mr. Opinionated","Outer Limits","06/25/09","necessary to come down on Tamar that hard? I know of few people who keep such an active schedule as Tamar. \n\nWith as little personal contact that I\'ve had with Tamar, I\'ve often wondered whether she got enough sleep. Thus, it came as no surprise to me that earlier she experienced a little burnout.\n\nIn the scope of issues that Tamar deals with, she shouldn’t have to be expected to \'come to bat\' for your neighborhood - especially when you live there, and seem able enough to express (communicate) your own opinions.\n\nInstead of expressing such negativity to her, why don\'t you stop, & think for a moment, and express your gratitude to her for the things she does do. \n\nAfter all, in no way does she receive adequate monetary compensation for her services.\n\nNow Meira, I\'m writing this as a neutral friend, not in hostility, but with a little indignation. Please continue to post as you have many good things to say!\n\nMay HaShem bless you, Meira, my dear sister.\n");
AddReply(455810,"\"no borders\"","Gil ","","06/25/09","Sounds like a slogan that is waiting to morph into \"no occupation\" etc.");
AddReply(455808,"Let\'s have clearer heads prevail","Paul S.","Toronto, Canada","06/25/09","Toronto has the 3rd largest \"gay\" colony in N. America, after New York and San Francisco.  This weekend there\'s going to be our gay pride parade.  The city fathers originally were against it years ago, but now they endorse it.  Thousands of people come and spend huge amounts of money.  We also have a lefty mayor who thinks this is great.  I\'m not sure if the marchers are naked or not (there was some controversy over this in the past) but the fact remains\nthat \"pride\" is here to stay.\nAs for Jerusalem, I understand your indignation.\nBut we must not go off half-cocked.  We must wean our \"gay\" community away from public displays of sleaze\nthrough education and persuasion, not through intimidation or force.  Remember, these homosexuals are Jewish too, and Israelis (at least some of them are).  We cannot afford the kind of divisiveness that\ncould fracture our society, our population is too small to stand it.  Think of how our \nenemies would laugh if we fought amongst ourselves.\n Homosexuals appear in all strata of society.  I\'m sure there are gay hareidim and rabbis with gay sons.  What do we do with them?  Morality is to be taught, not beaten into someone.  There\'s a marvelous line in M*A*S*H that sums it up:   Radar is tending to a patient and the guy says to R. , \"You\'re a nice guy\".  Radar answers:  \"I used to get hit if I wasn\'t\".  I don\'t want any hitting.");
AddReply(455792,"Meira on the Money Again","Malka","upstate NY","06/25/09","I agree totally with everything you wrote.\n\nFrom what I understand from reading an article on Wikipedia (sorry I can\'t cite a better more religious source) The Satan is called the adversary but also the obstacle and even prosecutor since Hashem is the supreme judge.\n\nEvil cannot exsist with righteousness. So the way to counter this evil abomination is with righteousness.\n\nThat\'s where we step in:) Arab Muslims on the Temple Mount, sexual abomination and displays in Hashem\'s holy city? That has to go.\n\nBTW: I like CDG\'s idea of sending an email to the mayor of Jerusalem. I wonder if one from the US would have any affect?\n\n");
AddReply(455773,"To Dan ($5) You are absolutely right! This is their intention!!!!","","","06/25/09","");
AddReply(455771,"The ugliest part of this is that it is FLAUNTED in Ir Hakodesh!","Jew","","06/25/09","This whole scenario is so evil and all those participating are even more evil. You can call them sickos or whatever, but what they really are doing is fighting G-D Almighty Himself.  It is not so much that this is all an abomination, but if it were a personal defect and the person is willing to help him/her self, then that would be a different story; it\'s between them and Hashem.  This is an orchestrated battle fighting Hashem, His Holy Torah and his Holy people.  The ones funding them are these evil foundations (goyim & Jews alike) &  they cannot and will not be forgiven.  Because the Israeli government is part & parcel of this, that is why the world is paying for this evil and our heroes such as Gilad Shalit & Jonathan Pollard are languishing in captivity.  Everything is connected; we must unite as a people, with one voice,so we can annul these evil decrees.  The whole world is battling against us, as our prophets have foretold.  If the masses would have demonstrated even weeks ago and days ago in front of the Knesset, then maybe something would have been done to prevent this abomination from occurring.  This is part of chevlei Moshiach & we must pray & demand his coming bm\'heira v\'yameinu!");
AddReply(455761,"Send them to the White House.  Obama will honor them.","MED","USA","06/25/09","6-24-09\nGay-Activist Movement to be Honored at White House  by Steve Jordahl, CitizenLink senior staff writer\n\nEvent comes just months after the Obama administration failed to acknowledge the National Day of Prayer with East Room celebration.\n\nThe Obama administration, which refused to send a representative to a Capitol Hill commemoration of the National Day of Prayer, is hosting a White House celebration of what most gay activists regard as the birth of their movement.\n\nPresident Barack Obama has invited key leaders in the gay community to the East Room on Monday to commemorate the Stonewall Riots of June 28, 1969, during which hundreds of homosexuals threw bottles and garbage at police and set a gay bar, the Stonewall Inn, on fire.\n\nRead the entire article at:\nhttp://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000010323.cfm");
AddReply(455757,"Shlomo","Meira","Yerushalayim","06/25/09","Yes it is apples and oranges in our personal behavior but evil cannot stand in the presence of goodness. I know it\'s not in our Scriptures but \"light casts out darkness.\" That happens to be true. Doing good puts the ruling powers  in the spiritual realm on alert that they\'d better behave. That this Land isn\'t theirs. It belongs to the G-d fearers and followers. Rabbi Ariel Bar Tzaddok has some interesting thoughts on the subject at <koshertorah.com>");
AddReply(455756,"it is abominable , an act against G_D","karenJonson","shreveport","06/25/09","Jerusalem is a Holy City of G_D\nwhen they allow this sinful act \nto be proformed in HASHEM,s holy city. they prelong the redemtion.\nthis sinful act caused sadom and gorrmora.when the man of that city \nwanted to have sex with the three\nangels. that,s when the angels enough we will destroy this place.\n");
AddReply(455734,"In the third year.......","Cleb","Shimshon, Al","06/25/09","1 Kings 18:1:\"And it came to pass [after] many days, that the word of the LORD came to Elijah in the third year, saying, Go, shew thyself unto Ahab; and I will send rain upon the earth.\" May the third year of the valiant Gilad Shalit\'s captivity be the third year that must be fulfilled in order for Eliyahu Ha Navi to appear and rescue him from these Philistines.  Be especially watchful between July 4th and the 11th. The 10th of July, is the 40th day since Shavuout,(Enoch\'s Calendar)  the time it would have taken Moshe to travel from Mount Horeb to Egypt.  The fulfillment of Malachi 4:5 & 6 will follow this same exact pattern. B\'rch Hashem.");
AddReply(455725,"If the LGBTQ are so bold to desecrate the holy city of Jerusalem...","MED","USA","06/25/09","...why don\'t they be bold enough to have their parade in Mecca or Medina or even Qom?\n\nThese LGBTQ are not born that way.  It\'s their lust and promiscuous lifestyles that have screwed up their genes.  Can these be the result of an \'environmental\' factor?  \n\nThe environment where promiscuous sex is promoted by Hollywood movies & propagated thro\' TV programs.  These are the sources against which we need to protest. \n\nWe should shun those programs, sitcoms; boycott the products of their advertisers, & just turn off the TV when such sins are glorified.  It\'s only thro\' our collective protest of this type that we can stop the genes of the future generation from being screwed up by vulgarity propagated as entertainment.");
AddReply(455685,"The Parade & Huxley\'s \"Brave New World\"","Dan","Jerusalem","06/25/09","In Aldous Huxley\'s \"Brave New World\", in the future socialist world state, children are not born but decanted.\nMarriage, families and birth are considered obscene.\n\nHuxley was satirizing the socialist, utopian ideas of H. G. Wells and Bertrand Russell \n\nThis is the purpose of the parade\'s supporters, to destroy the family and replace it with the state.\n\nThe family interferes with the elite\'s plan for the Nanny State, where every aspect of a person\'s life is managed by technocrats.\n\nFamilies might educate their children, whereas the state wants to have children from a young age in day care where they can be indoctrinated.\n\n\"All the boys and girls will learn from an early age to be what is called \'co-operative\', ... to do what everyone is doing.  Initiative will be discouraged in these children, and insubordination ... will be scientifically trained out of them.\"\n\n\"It has been hitherto considered that any man and woman ... have the right to marry, and having married have a right, if not duty, to have as many children as nature will decree.  This is a right which the scientific society of the future is not likely to tolerate\" \nBertrand Russell, \"The Scientific Outlook\",  1931, pages 228, 252.");
AddReply(455682,"I protested already.","CDG","Yerushalayim","06/25/09","I wrote an e-mail to Hizzonner the Mayor of Yerushalayim, Nir Barkat earlier this week - the e-mail address listed for him on the city\'s Web site is lishka@jerusalem.muni.il (probably his secretary). I wrote mine in English, taking the chance that the city hall\'s computers may or may not be able to read it.\n\nBarkat, as most people know, speaks English quite fluently.");
AddReply(455678,"Sorry, you\'re too late","Meira","Yerushalayim","06/25/09","Tamar, you were given the gift of ability to communicate AND position to use that talent. Instead, you waited until the last possible minute to say something. Now nothing can be done while you sit on your Yesha mountaintop, my neighborhood, in the center of Jerusalem gets polluted with this filth. If you really meant what you wrote, you would come up here with a banner and your articulate voice and make your opinion known.  What can you do now? You can come here and lead a counter rally of PUBLIC TEHILLIM reading. YOU can tell us if there\'s a way to rid ourselves of our silver tongued mayor, the Israeli Obama, who seduced \"even the elect if that were possible\" as it says in Daniel. \nWhat \"good deed\" are you going to do? Mine is between me and Hashem.  It\'s the deeds done in private that are more effective.  We should be doing deeds to counter tumah all the time. G-d knows there\'s plenty of it around. \n");
AddReply(455670,"Kol hakavod Tamar","Akiva","UK","06/25/09","I\'m so glad someone is taking a stand for Torah over the ridiculous notions of political correctness. These people only seek to intimidate by flaunting their sin all around HaShem\'s Holy City. What\'s next, beastiality pride rally?\n\nI\'ll be emptying my wallet into the Tzedakah Box tonight. Keep up the good work Tamar!");
AddReply(455669,"Apples and Oranges","Shlomo","Jerusalem","06/25/09","Torah tradition is very clear - you cannot make up for a bad act by an unrelated good act. That is, if you steal from someone, you cannot amend and repent by saying prayer or helping elderly across street. They are 100% unrelated - we can pray for 1000 years and cry deep tears - but that does not reduce or detract from our collective sin of letting this happen in Jerusalem without protest.  Which is the greater sin? being misguided/ill and parading that around (gay marchers)? being commanded by Hashem to guard the Holy City and allowing this parade (believing Jews)? The fault lies not in the gays - but in ourselves...go do good deeds - but don\'t live in delusion that this repents for the greater sin of the day - rabbinical and religious community passivity and cowardice!");

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