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AddReply(413010,"SK: #172","Steve","","03/15/09","I also posted this on page 1 under the Aliyah topic:\n\nSK, you wrote: \"Tell me, has Israel bombed any American cities that I don\'t know about? You have established that Americans are provokable, not that the US is evil monster bent on pro-active obliteration for oil or gold (unlike European countries that created empires and subjugated vast territories).\"\n\nAmerica is an empire.  With respect to colonies, Guam, and Puerto Rico, remain under U.S. control without all the rights and benefits of statehood. Of America\'s former possessions granted independence, most continue to have U.S. bases inside their territories.\n\nThe point is, the U.S. does not need colonies in the strict sense of the term.  America has military bases all over the globe, in Germany, Greece, Greenland, Guam, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Portugal, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom, Iraq, etc.  These are as good as colonies. America is an imperial power; a global hegemon.  That means empire.\n\nIsrael does not need to bomb any American city.  American policy has effectively been to coerce Israel\'s Jews to make suicidal concessions of precious and strategic land, to appease our Muslim Arab enemies, primarily our Saudi enemies.  The Saudis are believed to have some 24-25 percent of the world\'s proven oil reserves; maybe per barrel the cheapest oil in the world to extract.  More important, the Saudis own half the world\'s surplus production capacity -- two the three million barrels a day.  Take the Saudi surplus out of play, and the market loses its stability and liquidity.  It is the surplus capacity that keeps the world\'s oil markets from going on a face down roller-coaster ride during crisis.  In other words, no matter what country you buy our oil from, Saudi Arabia determines the world price by how much oil it chooses to produce.  (Robert Baer, \"Sleeping With The Devil.\").  Saudi Arabia is the birthplace of Islam.  It is the protector of two of the holiest cities in Islam.   Saudi Arabia does not recognize Israel.   It opposes Israel\'s existence.  Allied with the U.S., Saudi Arabia seeks Israel\'s destruction.\n\nSK: \"But Americans are not angry at the Muslim world.\"....An assertion on your part without any evidence in support. You think the average American hasn\'t noticed the \"Muslim Problem\" in America and elsewhere?\"\n\nWithin hours of the Pearl Harbor attacks, FBI agents began taking key Japanese American leaders into custody.  Eleanor Roosevelt bore personal witness to the growing hysteria -- up and down the Calif. coast - directed against aliens and citizens of Japanese decent.  California is a \"zone of danger\" the LA Times proclaimed the day after the attack.  It is the duty of alert citizens \"to cooperate with the military authorities against spies, saboteurs and 5th columnists.\"  Government officials swooped down upon Japanese banks, department stores, produce houses, and newspapers, locking their doors with giant padlocks.  Panic spread.  Houses were searched for pictures and documents that might suggest loyalty to the emperor of Japan; drawers and closet were rummaged for anything that might conceivable be uses as a weapon, thousands of radios and cameras were confiscated  \"Rumors were everywhere,\" recalled Jiro Ishihara, a young Japanese American who was in high school in East Los Angeles at the time.  \"We\'d hear that the person down the street had been picked up for having feudal dolls and that a neighbor had been taken away for having Japanese recordings....\"  FDR made the decision to uproot thousands of Japanese Americans from their homes, forcing them into incarceration / concentration camps located in the interior of the country.\n\nSK, what have Americans and their leaders done about these Muslim enemies within post 9/11?  What of these enemy Muslim civilians --  many of whom sympathized with the 9/11 atrocities?  You claim I have no evidence in support of my position?  Unlike Japanese Americans, we have much evidence, that like European Muslims, Muslim-Americans may never assimilate nor will they accept western laws and values over Sharia law and Allah.  What we are seeing here is the \"stealth jihad.\"  What have American citizens demanded of their leaders in light of this?\n\nSK: \"So, now you\'ve moved even further from real evidence, asserting that America, not Russia (or whatever), is the \"empire\" that will destroy Israel. You have \"long believed this.\" Of course, America is NOT an empire. Where are our colonies, pray? You have absorbed nonsense from the likes of the Left and the Paleo-Con Bucananites. By the way, Russia isn\'t much of an empire either nowadays.\"\n\nThe point is SK, we do not know.  It\'s all speculation (perhaps wishful thinking) on the part of Christians that America will stand by Israel\'s side should Israel be attacked by a coalition of nations.  What is the basis for this sanguine viewpoint, seeing how America has been turning more and more against Israel by the month; by the year? \n\nI wrote: \"For me, self-identifying with country and placing country first, before God (even before family) is dangerous; even deadly. This is what Germany\'s Christians - both Catholics and Protestants - did. They put nation and race before God and thus we saw the rise of a monster in the form of Adolf Hitler in Germany, with nearly full church support.\n\nSK: [HERE IS THE CLEAR ANALOGY WITH NAZI GERMANY.]\"\n\nI am simply pointing to the danger of placing country first, before God, etc.  It can be deadly.\n\nI wrote: \"Do not think this can never happen in America.\" SK: [MEANING: US CAN INDEED BECOME NAZI GERMANY.] It can happen in America. President George W. Bush is a case in point. SK: [SO, IT\'S ALREADY HAPPENED?] Though Bush was no Hitler, SK: [OH, SO BUSH IS NOT A CASE IN POINT. STEVE, TRY TO BE MORE COHERENT.] he was a phony and a deceiver (in my view) who seduced millions of credulous conservative Christians....\"\n\nSK, I said I reject the Hitler comparison with Bush employed by the extreme left.  So far as America\'s future is concerned, we simply do not know.  It may be that the character of the American people is very different from the barbaric character (the historic propensity toward violence) on the part of the German people.  I would like to believe it is, only do we know how the American people will behave under circumstances which are very different than anything we have seen heretofore?  Who conducted the Salem Witch Trials, tortures and hangings of 1692-1693?   Weren\'t these white European immigrants to North America?  The Puritans?  An April1939 Fortune magazine poll found that while 94% of Americans disapproved of the way Germany was treating the Jews, 83% opposed lowering stringent anti-immigration quotas to admit Jewish refugees.  Americans opposed a measure by New York Democratic Senator Robert Wagner Sr. which would have brought 20,000 German Jewish children to stay in American foster homes under Quaker sponsorship.  Due to the Jew-hating outcry by American patriotic societies and groups, the Wagner bill died in committee.  FDR was virtually silent about the plight of Europe\'s Jews throughout the war.  He kept abreast of American public opinion which was decidedly anti-Semitic.\n\nThe possibility that (as you suggest) most Americans do not know a whole lot about politics and do not have much interest in it - that Americans are much more interested in domestic than in foreign issues and focus particularly on economic indicators like inflation and stock prices - does not negate the fact that Americans are collectively responsible for the actions of their / our government; for the immoral (evil) foreign policy of their government.  It did not matter that most Germans did not know a whole lot about politics.  During the second world war, every German was an enemy, an enemy combatant and an enemy civilian.\n\nYou wrote: \"Few are single-issue voters. Supporting Bush did NOT mean opposing Israel\"\n\nIt does not matter SK in God\'s eyes.  Supporting Bush - after he made clear he was at war with Israel -- DID INDEED mean opposing Israel.\n\n\nSK: \"Fifth AND MOST IMPORTANT, Israeli elites have Koshered every anti-Jewish thing that America has supposedly \"pressured\" Israel to accept.\"\n\n\"Supposedly?\"   Supposedly pressured Israel to accept?  Again, you are in denial or worse, you are an blind partisan and an apologist.  America has pressured Israel and does pressure Israel mightily to make suicidal concessions to our enemies for some of the reasons I cited above.  I cannot believe you are this ill-informed of the modern history of Israel. \n\nSK wrote: \"The Israelis DO NOT WANT Yesha.....\"\n\nThere are plenty of Jews who do want Yesha.  I\'ve been active in politics for several years.   I do not identify with traitors.   Your sympathies or interests appear to be with traitors.  You have your eyes on traitors.  I have my eyes on our allies.  There are men and women living in faith and obedience in our land.  There are Jews in Israel that have faith in God.  Your sympathies are apparently not with these people.\n\nSK: \"You assume that Israel is being \"pressured.\" I disagree.\"\n\nI do NOT assume anything.  I know Israel is being pressured.  \n\nSK: \"TRANSLATION: You want America to be more pro-Israel? Get rid of the anti-Jewish Israeli leaders.\"\n\nAll I am saying is this.  America will pay for her immoral policies toward the land and the people of Israel.  The warnings in our ancient writings are clear.  America has been forewarned.  She travels down this road at her own peril.  No American citizen will be innocent of the blood shed in our land and the land taken by force from our people.  Only those who loudly protest might be spared.  \n\nMoses wrote: \"Rejoice, O nations, with His people; For He (God) will avenge the blood of His servants, And will render vengeance on His adversaries, And will atone for His land and His people.\"");
AddReply(412396,"Dacon, you ignorant twit!","Rob","USA","03/13/09","");
AddReply(412155,"HILARIOUS","Sam Flanagan","Belfast","03/13/09","Very clever and amusing piece of Journalism.");
AddReply(411972,"SK #172","Steve","","03/12/09","You made some important points which I must address.  I will try to respond later when I have more time to address your many points, one by one.  Suffice it to say, you are in good company with the vast majority of American Jews that view America as a haven and a homeland for the Jews; who have no intention of making Aliyah.\n\nThis should come as no surprise to you.  Like our fellow American Jews - most of them - I believe you are in denial; dangerously so.");
AddReply(411715,"Dean: You \"forgot?\"","Steve","","03/12/09","Dean you have me in a state of moral shock.\n\nYou admitted having seen this verse before, wherein Paul wrote that the Jews \"both killed the lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out. They are not pleasing to God, but hostile to all men...with the result that they always fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come upon them to the utmost.\"\n\nYou forgot that God\'s wrath has come upon us to the utmost?\n\nI\'ve got to ask you Dean, do you believe this is the \"word of God?\"  Do you believe Paul was a true prophet of God like Moses, Isaiah and Jeremiah?\n\nOr will you admit he was an apostate, a criminal and a traitor as we believe he was?\n\n");
AddReply(411696,"On the Steve vs. Rob exchange.","sk","USA","03/12/09","Hey Steve, you say (117) that you do not compare the US with Nazi Germany.  Yes you do (98, 115), though not very coherently.  Herewith, what I THINK you\'re arguing.\n\n\"Nor do you need to remind me of the capacity of America (as you say) to \"level down\" other nations. We have seen this time and time again; most clearly in the second world war ... the firebombings of Germany and Japan in retaliation for German and Japanese atrocities. We saw the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.\"\n\nSo, you start off acknowledging the circumstances for America\'s involvement in WW2.  Tell me, has Israel bombed any American cities that I don\'t know about?  You have established that Americans are provokable, not that the US is evil monster bent on pro-active obliteration for oil or gold (unlike European countries that created empires and subjugated vast territories).\n\n\"But Americans are not angry at the Muslim world.\"\n\nAn assertion on your part without any evidence in support.  You think the average American hasn\'t noticed the \"Muslim Problem\" in America and elsewhere?\n\n\"Many American Christians believe America will never turn against Israel because America is a nation under God. Christians and Christian ministers who interpret prophecy claim that the enemy nation to Israel\'s north which the prophets wrote about in the \"later days\" is Russia -- Ezek. chapter 38 and 39 for instance. I\'m not so sure it is not America. . . .  It will devour, crush and (as you say) \"trample down\" the remainder with its feet. I have long believed this may be the U.S. We\'ll see.\"\n\nSo, now you\'ve moved even further from real evidence, asserting that America, not Russia (or whatever), is the \"empire\" that will destroy Israel.  You have \"long believed this.\"  Of course, America is NOT an empire.  Where are our colonies, pray?  You have absorbed nonsense from the likes of the Left and the Paleo-Con Bucananites.  By the way, Russia isn\'t much of an empire either nowadays.\n\n\"For me, self-identifying with country and placing country first, before God (even before family) is dangerous; even deadly.\n\nThis is what Germany\'s Christians - both Catholics and Protestants - did. They put nation and race before God and thus we saw the rise of a monster in the form of Adolf Hitler in Germany, with nearly full church support.[HERE IS THE CLEAR ANALOGY WITH NAZI GERMANY.]\n\nDo not think this can never happen in America. [MEANING:  US CAN INDEED BECOME NAZI GERMANY.] It can happen in America. President George W. Bush is a case in point. [SO, IT\'S ALREADY HAPPENED?]  Though Bush was no Hitler, [OH, SO BUSH IS NOT A CASE IN POINT.  STEVE, TRY TO BE MORE COHERENT.]   he was a phony and a deceiver (in my view) who seduced millions of credulous conservative Christians....\"\n\n-------------------------------\n\nSo, Steve, to summarize.  (1) Americans have shown they will destroy an adversary if they they are being attacked.  True enough.  (2) Americans don\'t have problems with \"the Muslim world.\"  Obviously false.  We do not have two full-fledged wars on Muslim countries (whatever the justification) without American \"anger at the Muslim world.\"  (3) You have \"long believed\" that America will be the destroyer of Israel, based on your rather unsusual take on prophesy.  (4) You\'re really pissed at Xians who supported Bush.  It seems, then, that you have \"connected the dots\" and think things are already turning in a Hitler-esque direction, with Xians setting aside God for Country.  In other words, America is fulfilling \"prophesy\" and gathering itself to destroy the Jews.\n\nSorry, but I find this all just nonsense.  Let\'s leave aside the fact that Jews are no more hated in America than Catholics (as my REAL data-based analyses have shown).  Let\'s leave aside the fact of two wars in one presidential term against Muslim countries (and the reelection of the president who launched these wars).  Let\'s leave aside that America is no empire and therefore couldn\'t possibly fullfil prophesy.  Let\'s look at things more broadly.\n\nFirst, most Americans do not know a whole lot about politics and do not have much interest in it.  Many do know something about a narrow area or two, but that\'s it.  Second, what Americans know is powerfully dependent on what they learn from the media.  The media are overwhelmingly leftist, when they aren\'t politically irrelevant--which  they are most of the time, discussing such things as Brittany Spears instead.  Third, Americans are much more interested in domestic than in foreign issues and focus particularly on economic indicators like inflation and stock prices.  The stock market collapse is most likely the big reason Obama won.  Fourth, Americans support (or oppose) presidents for a plethora of reasons.  Few are single-issue voters.  Supporting Bush did NOT mean opposing Israel; it most likely meant (a) opposing Democratic attempts to run away from Iraq, which would increase increase terrorism against America and show that America was weak, and (b) giving in to an even bigger government than Bush would bring, with massive increased socialism. (I\'m using others\' terms, not my own.)  I\'m sure other influences were relevant, such as \"support the President of your party, because he\'s of your party, and not of the other party.\"  Stuff like that.  How you turn this whole thing into Bush is (pardon the expression) the Anti-Christ is beyond me.\n\nFifth AND MOST IMPORTANT, Israeli elites have Koshered every anti-Jewish thing that America has supposedly \"pressured\" Israel to accept.  You seem to believe that Bush is the villain.  No.  Bush is just doing what the Israeli elite statum is asking him to do.  The Israelis DO NOT WANT Yesha.  The Israelis hate and fear the dati leumi.  They know perfectly well who is having the babies.  You assume that Israel is being \"pressured.\"  I disagree.  I think that Bush works with the leaders of Israel, that they scratch each others\' backs.  Bush is not positioned, nor is he competent, to be more Jewish than the Israeli PM.  Nor, frankly, are the Republican leaders.\n\nTRANSLATION:  You want America to be more pro-Israel?  Get rid of the anti-Jewish Israeli leaders.");
AddReply(411694,"Hey dum dum dacon9","Rob","USA","03/12/09","I understood, I just disagree. so there ya go! ");
AddReply(411684,"reponse to DACON 167","dean","eliot maine","03/12/09","Aren\'t you being a little absurd talking about praying with Muslims?  That sounds real spiritual Mr, Dacon,but I doubt you would do that.  I thought that was Muslims that was sending rockets from Sderot at your people also doesn\'t the manin , Iran who says death to israel, isn\'t he Muslim.  ?? That wouldn\'t make sense to pray with him.  I know you don\'t want to pray with Xtians and I would never suggest that.  What I am suggesting is, our two faiths are much closer than your wanna be faith with a Muslim.  Whether you admit it or not.  A jew is a jew inwardly, not where he was born. Same with Christian. He is a Christian inwardly and only if his heart has been changed.  Yes sure you could pray with an arab, if the arabs heart had been changed.  So, in the words of steve, lets be honest!!!  Talking about Manhattan is where I went to church.  This was in 1991.  corner of 42nd and Broadway.  If you put on one of your Dacon acts I probably wouldn;t blame them for calling you the devil.  You do fire up pretty easily.  I don\'t mind you calling me Deano, neither.  Curious if Jews in Israel are a little more or less sedated than yourself?  Shalom from the occupied territory of USA Dean");
AddReply(411676,"Dean: answer to #16 above","Steve","","03/12/09","You ask what is necessary (according to our Rabbis)for you and me to receive salvation.  Like I wrote earlier, \"salvation\" is temporal in our Bible.  God\'s salvation is His deliverance from our enemies, from evil, etc.  Our rabbis call - what you call salvation - earning a place in the world to come.  Our rabbis say the following.   \"All the righteous among the nations have a place in the world to come.\"   This is what I believe.  \n\nWhat is righteousness?  What did Moses write? \n\n\"You should diligently keep the commandments of the LORD your God, and His testimonies and His statutes which He has commanded you. \n\n\"You shall do what is right and good in the sight of the LORD, that it may be well with you and that you may go in and possess the good land which the LORD swore to give your fathers.......So the LORD commanded us to observe all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God for our good always and for our survival, as it is today. \n\n\"It will be righteousness for us if we are careful to observe all this commandment before the LORD our God, just as He commanded us. (Deu chapter 6)\n\nCan it be any more clear?\n\nShedding blood has nothing to do with righteousness.  Simple belief in messiah has nothing to do with righteousness.  I have my own independent views about animal sacrifice in the Torah.  You are asking the wrong Jew about animal sacrifice.  I do not believe blood, in and of itself, has efficacy or atones for sin.  God looks at the heart.  God does not care for blood or for the shedding of blood. I do not believe blood propitiates God or the gods in the least.  This is pure superstition.  Christians treat \"the blood of Jesus\" like a talisman or a fetish which somehow wards off evil spirits and propitiates the gods for sin.  \n\nKing David wrote: \"For Thou dost not delight in sacrifice, otherwise I would give it; Thou art not pleased with burnt offering.  The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, Thou wilt not despise.\"\n\nYour statement that there is no forgiveness without the shedding of blood cannot be found anywhere in the Torah.  It can only be found in the book of Hebrews; in the Christian bible.  \n\nAgain no offense intended, the author of Hebrews (Paul?) was wholly ignorant of God\'s law.  Leviticus chapter 5 provides a grain offering for the poor man whose means are insufficient for doves or pigeons as a sacrifice.  \n\nThe poor man \"shall bring an ephah of fine flour for a sin offering and he shall bring it to the priest and the priest shall offer it up in smoke on the altar...so the priest shall make ATONEMENT for him for his sin which he has committed..and it shall be forgiven him.\"\n\nNow Dean, will you join with me?   Let us join together and pronounce judgement on this ignoramus who wrote the book of Hebrews.  Are you ready?  THE MAN WAS AN IGNORAMOUS!   \n\nOnce again, our rabbis say, \"all the righteous among the nations have a place in the world to come.\"   This is what I believe.  \n\nIn my next post I will attempt explain WHY your support --along with millions of American Christians\' support -- for Bush and the re-election of George W. Bush in 2004 constituted Christian support for evil and support for God\'s enemies.");
AddReply(411653,"wait tamar one more post,YO DINO","","...DACON9","03/11/09","THE CHURCH 42 ST AND BROADWAY?\nHAHAHAHAHHAA\n\nTHE YO YOS WITH MEGA PHONES AND PLACARDS \nWALKING IN SANDLES SCREAMING\nYOUR THE DEVIL YOUR THE DEVIL...\n\nI LOVE TO STOP AND ARGUE WITH THE IDIOTS..THEY SCREAM TO EVERYONE POINTING AT ME\nTELL THE PASSERBYS\nLOOK AT HIM LOOK HE WEARS A JEWISH HAT\nTHAT IS THE DEVIL.\nLISTEN TO WHAT HE SAID..\nI TOLD THEM AS I WALKED AWAY\nDID JEUS DIE FOR MY SINS?\nTHEN DO ME A FAVOR..GO DIE FOR MINE ALSO\nAND THEY SCREAM\n\'\'YOU ARE SEEING THE DEVIL IN PERSON...\'\'\n\nIS THAT YOUR CHURCH DINO?\nHAHAHHAHAHA\n\nVERY STUPID PEOPLE..THEY WERE EASY.\n\nTHEY ALL LOOK SO DREARY AND GREY..TEETH ALL YELLOW\nWEARS THE TAMBORINE\n\n");
AddReply(411651,"I AM BAITED, I ACCEPT FROM ROB AND DEAN","","","03/11/09","DEAN.\nYOU THE XTIANS  ARE MILES *BELOW THE SPIRITUAL LEVEL OF AN ARAB.\nwe HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON.\n\nDear readers please note a Jew and Muslim can pray next to each other..\na Jew and  Muslim is forbiden to pray standing next to a xtian.\n\nplease refer to my list of tactics #147  that dean is following precisely.HE IS ATTEMPTING AGAIN SO WHY ENGAGE HIM IN TIT FOR TAT.\nJews have the tit and the tat\nhe has nothing.\nstupid to debate him.He aint given up his mangods...\nWHOAA hey dean...\n..you better hurry to church..the statues need dusting and polishing. for sunday..\n\nRobbie you got it wrong,,,again !\n you  are not tuned into the heavens as a Jew. otherwise you would have understood fully my shot at prophesy...\n\nWobbie Wobbie wobbie you want a course on judaism that took our souls 5000 years to learn,live  and FEEL.\n\nWOBBIE DID YOU KNOW THAT DISNEY WORLD RAISED THE PRICES AGAIN?\nis that why you and dean are here? \n\nI think if i get married again...\ni will not have this time to play this game with dummies\n\nanyone else help me,they keep talkin\' boiout this guy paulie,,is this the same paulie in the ROCKIE movie or is he the paul from george ringo john.....I know ,I know....its.. \n\nohhh its paul, the guy that said its ok to lie to jews if you can convert a jew by lies,,then lie to them..ya knowwww,,paulie the saint or sumthin\'\nyeahhhh,,, that paulie...\n\nwhat do i know, i\'m from brooklyn \n\nany Israelis out there?\nIsnt natalie portman somethin\' \nlove her looks\n\nHey Tamar Yonah..\nplease ask your husband if this is what King Solomon meant when he said talk to the dummies in their own language?\n\nHOW AM I DOIN\' ?\nam i talkin\' to them in their own language or wha?\n\nnow i am really tired of stupid dean\n..rob...welll he is bearable..at least he is trying...\n\nSTEVE, IT AINT WORTH IT....\nsteve did you know the worst thing in reincarnation?\nIts when they come back  like a cow...\nthat is a major curse..ask your rabbi ...\n\nhaha \nyo deano.\ndat dere is a typical Italian brooklyn ny name deanooo wheres marie !\n\nDACON9\njjewswithviews@gmail.com\n\nno one is arguing with me...\nwrite me..argue..\n\nI warn you as soon as i get married\n I aint gonna do this no mo\'\nHello yes ,may i speak to \nMs Portman..what do ya mean I dont have enough money for her...\nher service hung up on me...\ncie la vie\n\n \n\n");
AddReply(411645,"to STEVE 132","dean","eliot","03/11/09","I have seen that verse before,but forgot all about it regarding the jews killing Jesus asa quoted by Paul.  The reality of the matter the way I have heard it preached is this ,sure, the jews had a hand in Jesus death,but so did  Pontious Pilate but most of all was me.  It was my sin that put him on that cross.  Here is a theory, c heck this out.  They may not print this one either.  God the Father designed the plan to have Jesus die for my sins, so in essence it was really God dying on the cross for all humanity. That is the one I choose to believe,but I won\'t force it on you.  God really did not die because mortal man can;t lay a glove on God.  Now,back to your other pointon how can we all get along.  As I told Dacon earlier.  We have much more in common than we have at odds.  For instance we agree on the entire Old testament.  Bible teaches that Salvation is of the Jews. I think that is NT scripture.  I will be first to admit wihout the jews I would never have received my salvation.  But remember, A jew is not one openly, but one inwardly.  Does not matter where you were born,but  how you believe.  NT teaches that we as Xtians have been grafted into the vine. The vine of Jacob, Abraham and Isaac.  I am a child of Abraham, the father of my faith and so are you if you believe.  Shalom from the occupied territories of America!!!! Dean");
AddReply(411615,"Steve, (160) Rabbi Moses ben Nachman","Rob","USA","03/11/09","Clearly won this debate. You and dacon fail to realize the significance of this event.\n\nThough it appears he was forced into this debate, he pulled no punches. If I understand you and Dac correctly, you are blaming him for the pogrom that followed fifty, one hundred, to two hundred years after?");
AddReply(411607,"to Mr. Dacon","dean","eliot, maine","03/11/09","Hey Dacon,  I just discovered why you\'re such a wild man.  It isn\'t your religion.  I thought it was originally.  Although, like I said I have never really considered Jewish people for their religion B4. I guess you would qualify as a religious jew, correct??  I think so.  Well, I noticed where you said you are from Brooklyn N>Y>  Now, that explains your temperament.  I went there to a church near Times Square couple years ago.  David Wilkersons 42nd and Broadway.  I believe that is Brooklyn, correct?  To exist in that part of the world for very long, you have to have an attitude.  Just finding a parking place can be a major event.  Well the purpose of my comment is this.  You and I and Steve and anyone else professing faith in the GOD of Abraham,Isacc and Jacob have much more in common with each other than all the peoples of the world.  When you stack the othe religions of the world beside Judeo Christianity you and I become blood brothers.  Sorry to introduce you to the sorrow that you have to accept me as your brother,but that is the gospel.  I have been grafted into the vine.  The vine has been growing since Adam and EVE. Sure it seems as though we have some surface level differences, but as I have told Tovia and Tamar and Yishai many times, I sincerely believe this God that we claim to serve is one in the same .  If you put me beside a professing Muslim, that would not be the case.    Shalom from the occupied lands of AmericaDean");
AddReply(411603,"Hey steve I found out where they put my 4 page essay","dean","eliot","03/11/09","Actually I may have inadvertently misposted it there myself 4 days ago but I don\'t think so.  Look under the story Tamar did on WATCH THE ARAB TERRORISTS REAL TIME  comment to you # 16.  That is what I answered you 4 days ago and I never saw it appear on the comment list , but there it is.  Shalom, Deam.");
AddReply(411601,"Dean: this will be my last on this topic.","Steve","","03/11/09","I hope it will, at any rate.\n\nYou wrote: \"You made the statement that the Jews killed Paul\'s god. What are you referring to there?  Are you saying that Jews killed Jesus????? I would disagree 100%. Who led you to believe this rubbish?\"\n\nI do not know if the screeners will reproduce this quote (below) from Paul.  I do not know how else to answer you other than to quote this man who has so molded and shaped the church\'s historic disposition toward the Jewish people; my people.  I spoke to a Christian neighbor (John) just this morning at the convenience store.  John told me this \"the Jews killed Jesus\" is still openly taught or at least implied in today\'s Christian church.  I cannot say for certain because I do not attend these services.\n\nPaul wrote: \"For you, brethren.... also endured the same sufferings at the hands of your own countrymen, even as they (the churches in Judea -- ed.) did from the Jews, \n\nwho both killed the lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out. They are not pleasing to God, but hostile to all men, \n\nhindering us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved; with the result that they always fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come upon them to the utmost.\"\n\nWe (the Jews) are not pleasing to God, but hostile to all men.  Consequently, the wrath of God (according to this self-professed apostle) has come upon me and my fellow Jews to the utmost!\n\nYou need to be honest Dean.  Christians must understand the roots of historic Christian anti-Semitism and Jew-hatred.  How can Christendom ever heal if it is not honest about its past and the the roots of this past?\n\nGod told the Jewish patriarch, \"I will bless those who bless you and the one who curses you, I will curse.\"\n\nNow the Christian west is further inflaming the wound by supporting anti-Israel, pro-Muslim jihadist policies of George W. Bush and Barack Hussein Obama; policies whose aim is the destruction of the Jewish state.  \n\nWill the wound ever be healed?\n");
AddReply(411600,"to STEVE regarding your 157 posting","dean","eliot,maine","03/11/09","You made the staement that your sins are delat with on a personal level now through contrition and repentance.  What was the purpose of all the sacrificial atonement using the blood of animals in the 2nd temple if not to cleanse you of sin??  Nothing has changed since then.  Correct??  Only the destruction of the 2nd temple.  For the fact the temple is not there should not discontinue the procedure of having to have the animals blood offerred.  Correct me  if I have missed something!!  Just seems to me without a temple,you are not being cleansed b4 your God Hashem.  thanks dean.");
AddReply(411475,"Dacon: Ramban and his Barcelona debate","Steve","","03/11/09","You wrote: \"Great rabbis (Ramban / Nahmanides) entered into debates with these people only to be persecuted and marked for death because the xtians have been proven to be a false deceptive belief.\"\n\nQuoting the from the encyclopedia: \n\n\"Nahmanides entered into a religious disputation in which he was called upon to defend his faith in 1263. The debate was initiated by an apostate Pablo Christiani, who had been sent by General Raymond de Penyafort to King James I of Aragon, with the request that the king order Ramban to respond to charges against Judaism.\"\n\nAs a consequence, the rabbi was forced to leave his family and his country and wander in foreign lands.\n\nSo you are warning me and others to not engage Dean or any Christian in a religious discussion, lest this be our fate as well.  \n\nMaybe you are right. \n");
AddReply(411474,"Reply to stebe #155","dean","eliotmaine","03/11/09","Hey Steve, appreciated your reply.  Saw something in it that really grabbed me.  You made the statement that the Jews killed Paul\'s god.  What are you referring to there.  Are you saying that Jews killed Jesus?????  I would disagree 100%.  Who led you to believe this rubbish.  Roman soldiers killed Jesus.  There wasn\'t a single jew driving the nails that day,only the Romans   believed in crucifixion.  They crucified many Xtians along with Jesus.  Must have hurt like you know what!!! Oh well,it really wasn\'t even the Romans that killed Jesus.    Good discussion point though!  Hope to talk to you later.  Very soon they are gonna close this site down.  I have left my own web site for you or Dacon with Tamar.  She can give it to you. dean in Maine");
AddReply(411465,"Dacon9, 56.","Rob","USA","03/11/09","Hats off to you! However I do not agree with you about converts, but I wont stab you in the head over it, :-)");
AddReply(411460,"Dean, you read correctly; messiah does not save.","Steve","","03/11/09","Messiah is God\'s servant, like Moses and David were God\'s servants.  Remember Moses wrote, God \"will raise up a prophet like me.\"  \n\nThe NT takes this as a messianic statement.  Fine.  Did Moses \"save\" the Israelites and deliver us from Egypt or did God save the Israelites and deliver us from Egypt?   Did Moses part the sea or did God part the sea? \n\nI am not a rabbi.  My understanding of the basic theme in the Torah, the prophets and the entire Hebrew Bible is this.  Salvation and redemption were temporal.  Though there may be an implied deeper spiritual meaning, literally God\'s salvation is temporal.  Of course we believe in a \"world to come\" or God\'s kingdom situated in Jerusalem one day.  But the Bible deals with things on this earth.  Thus, unlike Christianity, Judaism is not \"other-worldly\" but this worldly.\n\nThe Jews look for messiah to be God\'s \"instrument\" of salvation from our enemies.  This is why J. did not fulfill the requirements of messiah.  He did not bring God\'s salvation from our enemies.  He did not help to establish God\'s earthly kingdom in Jerusalem. (His) \"kingdom was not of this world.\"  God\'s future kingdom will be here on earth; of this world.  This is the vision presented in the writings of our prophets.\n\nEarly Christianity \"transmogrified\" the mission of messiah into a \"messiah\" who saves us from our sins.\n\nThere is no (I repeat NO) concept of this anywhere in the scriptures.  With God\'s help, we must make atonement for our sins through contrition, repentance, restitution, etc.\n\nGod does not \"save\" us from our sins and messiah certainly does not save us from our sins.\n\nUnlike Christianity, Jews do not believe we are all \"sinners.\"  In the Hebrew Bible, \"sinners\" were especially wicked and evil people like the Nazis for instance and Hamas and Islamic murderers, etc.  \n\n\"Now the men of Sodom were wicked exceedingly and sinners against the LORD.\" (Gen chapter. 13)\n\n\"How blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked, Nor stand in the path of sinners, Nor sit in the seat of scoffers!\"\n\nAnyone that hates Israel, who wants to see Israel destroyed, is a sinner.  Enemies of Israel are enemies of God.");
AddReply(411436,"DID ANYONE QUESTION the picture?","",".....DACON9","03/11/09","DID ANYONE QUESTION THE PICTURE? \nTheir are some wearing long hair like a woman.\nNo one noticed this and the proves that the \'deans\' and the likes of him in our midst are doing their job.\n\nThat is to take us away from examining ourselfs for self improvement.No one noticed or questioned the long haired people sitting next to the men with talleet wrapped around them during tifila,prayer,\n We became side tracked to defend or permit our egos to take over our good judgements to counter the \'deans\' in our world..dean did his job well.we failed.\ndean succeeded and he is laughing at us jews for \'attempting\'\' to take him to task or bring him to knowing the 2nd commandment.he will never.\n\nThat is our individual problem.We got sucked in to his world. Neglecting ours for a period.\n\nNot every Jew can be returned and certainly the majority of GOYEEM\nWILL NEVER BE BROUGHT TO THE MT OF THE G\'D OF ISRAEL.\n\n>but dean is laughing\n>some readers can be questioning\n>others can be researching for the next round.\n\nMOSES AT MT SINAI WARNED THE NATION OF ISRAEL about these people.....\n\nNot to cease hating the missionary Deut. 13:9 \n\nNot to imitate them in customs and clothing  Lev. 20:23 \n\n To honor those who teach and know Torah Lev. 19:32 \n\nGreat rabbis (Ranban) entered into debates with these people only to be persecuated and marked for death because the xtians have been proven to be a fale deceptive belief.\n\nEverything is from the heavens, I attribute that to the heavens disappoving of debates with these missionaries.\n\nRabbi Tovia Singer has a photographic memory and is an extrodinarily gifted man.Some of us want to be mini Tovias..lol..we are not and shouldnt try.\n\nBe aware of your surroundings, who is listening to your debate and the cause and effect of your discourse with the missionaries.\nIts not only that you want to win the argument.so does the missionary and so does your yetzer hara the evil inclination, the one tht is labeled arrogance haughtiness.\n\nIn #147 i gave a summary of the techniques used by some missionaries, and sure enough just after that, deans responds in that exact way,sorry I did leave out another missionary technique and that is the \'\'art of intimidation\'\', which dean is touching on.He must keep the dialogue continuing inorder to weaked our resolve against him.\n\nI come from a community in Brooklyn that doesnt permit such debates frowns on this and teaches to improve one self as the sages tach  us the antidote to such filth is knowledge of Torah.\nFor  this reason  converts are not accepted. the sancity and presevation  and greater good of the community is paramount.\n\nThe rabbis in Israel have agrred to abide by our proclamation  and understand and agree that our community has the least amount f jews being lost to the outside assimlated false glitters of \'\'hollywood\'\' Rabbis across the world agree admire and look to do the same in their home.\n\'\'THE PURPOSE IS THE CONTINUITY OF THE UNTOUCHED TORAH.\'\'\n\nIt is not so easy in this space to explain all the nuances, all the benifits  of a community who knows the great grandfathers in the old country and the rabbis know the rabbis of the rabbis of every individual.\n\nLet me abbreviate one thing.\nYOU never ever can appreciate Judaism until you live like a jew walking on a holiday or shabbat looking behind you seeing your grandparents ,walking along side you walking with your children and in front of your the grandchildren...\n\nthis is what life is about.\nQUALITY NOT QUANTITY.\n\nMy rabbi, a sephardic told me whenever i see a holocaust survivor i should ask for their blessing for they SURVIVED THE WORST TRADGEDIES OF MANKIND AND ARE BLESSED.\nWE MUST CONTINUE JUDAISM  FOR THE SAKE OF THOSE THAT DIED IN  THE HOLOCAUST AND THOSE THAT SURVIVED...\nAND HASHEM WILL BLESS US.\n\nDACON9\n");
AddReply(411413,"Dean #153: It\'s not as if I\'ve not read your NT","Steve","","03/11/09","I have read it.  Cover to cover, with few exceptions.  When I visited yeshiva for a couple of weeks in Jerusalem several years back, I sat in on a class on the NT.  The rabbi was very learned in the Christian bible.  It is not as if Jews and rabbis have not studied these writings.  We have.   It is on THIS basis, our reading of the Christian bible, that we reject the Christian bible as prophecy or as any kind of a code of conduct for living.  \n\nYet not everything is wrong or untrue in the Christian bible but neither is everything untrue and wrong in Hitler\'s Mein Kampf -- not to directly compare the two.\n\nThe point is Dean, there are idolatrous teachings and ideas in the NT, especially in Paul\'s letters (Paul\'s gospel) to the gentiles.  Paul was an especially pernicious and renegade Jew.  We\'ve had many down through the centuries.  More than anyone else, Paul sowed the seeds of Jew-hatred in the Christian bible -- the Jews killed Paul\'s god and persecuted his followers -- perhaps followed by the writer John (who pitted Jesus against \"the Jews\") and then there is Matthew with his infamous \"let his blood be on our heads...\" quotation, found in no other book in the NT.\n\nSuffice it to say, the Christian bible is not a reliable document.  The gospels are full of inconsistencies and contradictions.  Scholars believe that scribes and early church fathers tampered with, even altered these texts.  I believe they did this.  All you have to do is read it.  Many places you will find on the side bar, \"Not found in the older manuscripts.\"  In other words, your texts have been altered.  Jewish scribes were meticulous; not so Christian scribes and monks.  That is why scholars examine the Christian bible and not the Hebrew Bible for inconsistencies.\n\nYou have a faulty document to begin with, not to mention, a document  full of false and pernicious ideas.\n\nTHIS is why the prophet wrote: \"To the law (Torah) and to the testimony; unless they speak according to this word, it is because they have no dawn (or light).\n\nWhy do you think so many Christians come to sites like Tamar\'s.  They are hungry for light and for truth.  They are NOT getting this light and truth in the Christian church because Christianity is bankrupt.  It has been from its inception.  This is why every Christian nation, including America, will fail in the end.  Dean, Christians believe in a god or in gods that cannot save.");
AddReply(411401,"to steve 152","dean","eliot, maine","03/11/09","Steve you made a statement that knocked me off my chair.  AGain I am not sure if They consider this prosetelizing . I consider it just my everyday speech.  You said in you rpost to me today, that not even MESSIAH saves,  Beg your pardon, but what do we need a MESSIAH for, but to SAVE us from all this impending DOOM?  Don\'t know bout you, but I need a MESSIAH that is gonna save me from what I see asgoing be one HECK of a lot of JACOB\"S TROUBLE coming our way.  WHoare you leaning on to vdelivered from what looks like deep black clouds of judgement???  Dean");
AddReply(411397,"to steve 152 and DACON 150","dean","eliot, maine","03/11/09","Great postings both of you.Believe we are startng to make progress.  I am beginning to understand both of you from a grass roots level, which is good.  Don\'t give up on me.  I can assure you if you think there is something professional about me, you are right.  Talking about Messiah is my profession.  As far as Tamar is concerned,I see that  she does a very good job of monitoring give and take dialogue..  You do want to be democratic,correct?  Don/t want to be like Saudi,correct?  No free speech.   Would like to get to know you both a little better.  INN won \'t let me post anything about J-MAN so I have given Tamar my web address  Time to come out of the dark ages and listen to what the gospel writers say a bout Heaven and the other place.  Love you in the ?????  Dean from Eliot, Maine");
AddReply(411207,"Dean, isn\'t it you who worship flesh?","Steve","","03/11/09","You wrote, \"For us that are on the rock, we are gonna be blown like a tornado..... You keep mentioning peoples names. People will never be able to help you... It has to be your belief sytem. HAGEE and OBAMA and all that other flesh you talked about are people like you and me. They think one way one day and then whatever is convenient they think another way the next day. I would like to have my own CHAMPION.....\"\n\nAgain, no offence intended Dean, don\'t you worship flesh in the form of a man that cannot save?  Only God can save.  Our rock is not your rock.  Our rock is the Almighty, the Holy One of Israel.  He is Israel\'s \"champion.\"  Not even messiah can save, though the Jews wait for messiah.  Only God can save.\n\nThe prophets wrote: \n\n“The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice,\nRighteous and upright is He.\"  (Deu chapter 32)\n\nJeremiah: \"The LORD (YHWH) is with me like a dread champion;\nTherefore my persecutors will stumble and not prevail.\nThey will be utterly ashamed, because they have failed,\nWith an everlasting disgrace that will not be forgotten.\"  \n\nWe do not believe God is flesh or mortal as Christians believe.  We do not believe in trinities.  Our God is one, and only one.");
AddReply(411161,"US Jews are in for a surprise","Ian","New Denver Canada","03/10/09","I wonder how these US Jews will feel if Israel goes under and is destroyed. Only then will they know that they may have contributed to the latest Holocaust. Now that Obama is financing Hamas, and will let  hundreds of thousands of Palestinians immigrate to the US, they will be facing Palestian hatred soon enough.\nWhen Israel gets destroyed, and I think it will, where will the Jews go next???  Tough times are coming!!!");
AddReply(411131,"YA SEE TAMAR..THEY NEVER GIVE UP..NO GOOD TO START.KILL FIRST, IS BEST","HAHAHAA","........DACON9","03/10/09","THIS IS WHY THE TORAH FORUM IS POISON...\n\nIF I WAS TO SHOW YOU THE ATTEMPTS ON ME FROOM THOSE PEOPLE YOU WOULD QUIT THIS FRIENDSHIP BALONEY...\n\nMrs Yonah..This is why my community absolutly forbids any converts what so ever,\n\n It takes them 4 generations to purge themselfs of jeus...most never get past the first 3 years \n\nI implore upon you never to post MAIN ARTICLES  from these people. \n\nISRAEL  NATION IS IN YOUR HANDS\n WHO EVER READS YOU...\nTHE MISSIONARIES ARE RELENTLESS AND  THE SIDE PRIVATE MESSAGES IN CHAT ROOMS RELENTLESS AS WELLL\n\nONE BLOGGER IN ARUTZ SHEVA..I warned you..you are posting not a xtian but an imposter\n I exposed him in YNET. and you persist in posting PAQID.he is a professional best missionary i ever read\n.ELLEN PLEASE.... YOU DONT NEED RATINGS AT THE EXPENSE OF POSTING PROFESSIONALS TO JEWS...JEWS do not believe in the \'\'original ribi\'\'yehushuyah\'\' before xtianinty began.\'\' \nthat is his mantra..\n\nTHANKS\nDACON9\njewswithviews@gmail.com\n\n");
AddReply(411089,"Response to DACON149","dean","eliot,maine","03/10/09","That was a head on confrontation you just gave me and I didn\'t duck it.  You definitely sound like you have been run over a few times. Is it safer to be run over by a XTIAN or be an Islam?  Oh and in the end I would not consider spilling any of your blood.I have never spoken to jews before regarding salvation and it would be the same with them as any other,if they indicated they wanted me to leave them alone, I would leave.   But if you have more to get off your chest, try me out.  Maybe I can clear up a few items for you!!In the right spirit,Dean.");
AddReply(410984,"answer to steve 146","dean","eliot,maine","03/10/09","You brought up some excellent topics steve.  The more I hear you speak this is what I hear in your thinking.  You are looking for something solid to hang your hat upon.  I could give you a couple scriptures but I think they will edit me.  The truth of the matter is that we are entering into and are probably in a time the bible describes as JACOBS TROUBLE>  J-man said this was going to be a time like no other upon the earth.  Things are gonna get reeeeeeeeeeel confusing.  Especially if you ain\'t on the rock.  Even for us that are on the rock, we are gonna be blown like a tornado.    Apparently there is a storm in the heavenlies and the wind is being aimed in our direction.  You keep mentioning peoples names.  People will never be able to help you get focused.  It has to be your belief sytem.  HAGEE and OBAMA and all that othe flesh you talked about are people like you and me.  They think one way one day and then whateve is convenient they think anothe way the next day.  I would like to have my own CHAMPION like let us say Samson or David  Bush or Haggee or anyone.  Whenever I have done that they seem fun at the time but within the week some news reporter will discover they caught them sipping wine and demand we renounce them.  Back to Iran. I did not pray for himto succeed but I pray for him to be b rought to justice.  That is the same way I would have prayed for Adolph.    I believe at the judgement God might ask me to give account of how I treated these human beings that are my fellows. He might ask me if I prayed for them to be delivered, I don.t know.  They are my fellows whether I like it or not.  They can be changed.  Did I forget anything???  Oh Yeah, I remember Haggee preaching hard against Bush shortly befor KATRINA saying specifically, Bushes anti Israel policy will bring th wrath of God on U>S> which it did and now is and OBAM is continuing heavily in the same direction.  God help USA  God help Israel God help me.  Talk to you later.");
AddReply(410968,"I GET HIT WITH 1 OR 2 MISSONARIES WEEKLY","",".....DACON9","03/10/09","THEY ALL wanna be my friend, \'\'JUST FRIENDS\'\'.\nAND THEY ALL SOUND IDENTICAL IN SO MAY WAYS TO THIS DEAN.\n\nTACTIC: find a common ground with me to continue the friendly dialogue.\n\navoid head on confrontations with the jew\n\nfind ways to agree with me even if they dont on points\n\nbless me then Israel ,then the world\n\nrecite hebrew scripture of\n \'love to my neighbors\'\n\nquote my enemies, the churches, writings where they really love me.\n\nbless me again, promising he will leave me in peace and not bother me.\n\ncontact me after a few days telling me how interesting I am and really wants my friendship and he want to call me on the phone to exchange more world views and the missionary  quotes a passage of two that jeus also has the same views and was a rabbi so maybe thats why he has the same views and feels a closeness to me. \n\ncompliments my intelligence and how broad my view of life is and xtians and jeus has  the many opinions similar and he wants to call me.\n\nblesses me again for being so smart.\n\nGIVES ME A QUOTE FROM THEIR WRITINGS AND ALIGNS IT WITH SOMETHING HEBREW TO SHOW WE CAN BE SPIRITUAL FRIENDS ALSO\n AND HE SAID WE SHOULD CONTINUE CHATTINGS.\n\nEND GAME TACTIC:\nHis job is to find one,just one error or lack of knowledge on my part, on just one far fetch point or scripture or anything. The missionary only has to make me stutter just once and he then believes he got me,\n\nVICTORY PARADE: \nNow he can say:\nSEE WHAT I MEAN. YOU DIDNT KNOW THAT JEUS SAID THAT AND JEUS WAS A JEW WHO THINKS THE SAME, They all have the same style and substance as dean in this blog.\n\nTHEY MAY SAY.\nSEE HOW YOU JEWS ARGUE WITH EACH OTHER, ONE RABBI TO ANOTHER RABBI FROM RAMBAM TO R’ AKIVAH. They even differed and so do we but only little things like jeus differs on little things.\nThe missionaries job is to confused you, to create a doubt or a question of your own faith, to cause you to search your self what you don’t like about your faith or what you don’t know. Their job is to keep you talking until you  tire out.\n\nMY EGO , IS NOT LACKING. I don’t need to win an argument with a non jew to validate my TORAH MY BELIEF, MY ADHERENCE TO THE ‘\nONE G’D OF ISRAEL’\nB’H\nI PRAY THAT HASHEM GIVES ME WISDOM AND STRENGTH\n AGAINST ALL MY OPPONENTS AND \nTO SERVE THE ONLY ‘ONE’ A LITTLE BETTER TODAY\n\n THE MISSIONARY TROPHY IS,\nCAPTURING A JEW TO HANG IN THEIR CHURCH.\n\nMOSES IN HIS FARWELL SPEECH TO ISRAEL TOLD US \nNOT TO BE KIND TO THE MISSIONARY\nDO NOT SAVE HIM\nDON’T HELP HIM\n\nBE A BETTER JEW BY LEARNING A LITTLE TORAH HERE AND THERE\nBE WITH BETTER (knowledgeable in Torah and character)  PEOPLE IN YOUR LIFE\nIMPROVE OURSELFS\n\nWE ARE A SEPARATE  NATION\nDo not intermingle interdate inter dinner.\nWE  ARE  ISRAEL, ‘HIS’  SPECIAL NATION\n\nI cant improve on that one..\nNEITHER CAN MISSIONARIES OR PEOPLE LIKE DEAN.\nSO WHY SHOULD I LISTEN TO HIM?\n\nDACON9");
AddReply(410950,"Dean: Praying for evil","Steve","","03/10/09","A few years back, I wrote Pastor John Hagee  -- Christians United For Israel (CUFI).  I urged Hagee and his politically activist CUFI to adopt - at their annual meeting in Washington - a formal resolution opposing the Bush-Saudi road map for Israel\'s destruction.  Hagee declined to challenge his little Texas \'god\' he set up in in heart.  I was told by a high-ranking CUFI official, there \"is no consensus\" amongst CUFI officers to challenge Bush\'s evil, anti-Israel policies.\n\nHagee wrote in the Washington Post, late January 2009 (in part): \n\n\"Evangelical Christians not only embrace our new President, we pray fervently for his success..... \n\n\"The bible commands (quoting from a self-loathing Jewish traitor) that \"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established,\".......So while I endorsed his opponent in the recent presidential election, I fully support Barack Obama as MY (emphasis mine) new President....\n\nHagee: \"I am astonished by those who wonder if evangelical Christians, a majority of whom did not vote for Mr. Obama, want to see our 44th President succeed. Of course we do....\nThe Bible tells Christians (again quoting a self-loathing Jewish traitor) that they are to pray \"for all who are in authority that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life...\"\n\nhttp://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2009/01/my_hopes_and_concerns_for_obam.html\n\nYesterday I called into one of our local talk radio programs as they were talking about Obama\'s policies.  In the studio was a guest, Larry Outlaw, from Fellowship Baptist Church.  I asked the following question.\n\nWhat should be the position of the church on Obama and should we hope for Obama\'s success?  Mr. Outlaw responded that he is praying for God to give \"President Obama wisdom.\"  \n\nDean, would you and Outlaw have prayed for God to give Adolf Hitler wisdom were you German citizens?  You acknowledge that you believe God sent Hurricane Katrina to the Gulf Coast because of Bush\'s part in dividing the land of Israel. \n\nQuoting Proverbs you wrote, \"The king’s heart....is  in the hand of the LORD; He turns it wherever He wishes.\" \n\nHave you considered Pharaoh\'s heart was in the hand of the LORD as He turned it and hardened it to do evil?   Have you considered, as you, Larry Outlaw and John Hagee pray \"for\" President Obama, God is turning Obama\'s heart to do great evil to this nation?   Even while Christians pray for his success?");
AddReply(410923,"Answer to Steve #144","dean","Eliot Maine","03/10/09","Wow, youcovered a lot of territory there Bro.  I guess it comes back to the same conclusion I had to come to regarding the Jews.  No two of them seem to agree on very much.  Same as Christians.  No two of us seem to agree with each other on many things.  My wife and myself you would expect to agree on all Xtian things.  Truth is we don\'t.  As far as Farrah goes.  I don\'t know him.  I suspect his opiion is like ours. It seems to change as we learn more facts.  Funny you should talk a bout praying for Obama.  Lord woke me bout 2 a.m. last night and I was praying for him.  Bible says the heart of the King is in Lords hand and He turns it in the direction in which He wants it to go.  Proverbs.  Also I prayed for you. Then I prayed for me,. Then I prayed for Israel. Then I prayed for Iran and their leaders.  Lord can get more done in 5 seconds of prayer than I can staying up all night and worrying bout it.  Love ya and May the Lord of Glory bless you in all that ye do and accomplish His good will in your life.  Dean in Maine");
AddReply(410825,"Dean: Bush and American Christians","Steve","","03/10/09","I mean no disrespect Dean.  Your point of view is pretty much the majority or the standard view of most American Christian conservatives.  \n\nPresident George W. Bush \"was a lot more pro- Israel than the Dems would have ever been. (We) will never get a president that leans more than 50% toward Israel ever again. There are too many pressures influencing U.S. policy,\" etc.  \n\nAll this may in fact be true -- indeed it is true -- only for me it is beside the point.  I expect leftists like Clinton and Obama to seek to appease our enemies.  I do not expect this from self-professed Christian conservatives like Bush.\n\nJoseph Farah\'s World Net Daily (WND) is one of the premier conservative Christian web-sites.  Farah claims to be a pro-Israel Christian who swore he would never endorse or support George W. Bush.  Yet Farah did endorse Bush in his 2004 re-election bid, even after Bush declared war on Israel and on the land of Israel; after the 9/11 Muslim terror atrocities.\n\nOne of WND\'s reporters, Paul Sperry wrote \"Crude Politics: How Bush\'s Oil Crony\'s Hijacked The War On Terrorism.\"  Sperry paints a grim picture of a low-life traitor in George W. Bush.  I did not know what I was voting for in 2000.  After 9/11, I began studying not only Islam but the Bush family\'s intimate financial ties to our Muslim enemies. These ties with our Saudi enemies are sordid and extensive.  There are several that have written about the Bush family\'s ties with America\'s enemies.\n\nYet Christian conservatives loved this traitor; this enemy of the God of Israel.  Why?  Bush said he was a \"born again\" Christian.  Christians embraced him as a brother in faith even though he is a traitor and an enemy of the God of Israel.   I firmly believe the Almighty gave this nation into the hands of President B. Hussein Obama, in large part because, like German Christians supported Herr Hitler, American Christians supported George W. Bush.  \n\nIs there any faith in this country?   I see treason and a love for traitors.  This nation has got to be under the judgment of God.  Isn\'t it?  Otherwise God lied to his servant Abraham, to whom He swore, \"I will bless those who bless you and the one curses you, I will curse.\"  \n\nAs Bush cursed Abraham, American Christians blessed Bush and prayed for him.  \n\nNow we read and hear that American Christians are praying for Barack Obama just as German Christians prayed for Adolf Hitler.\n\nWhat is it in the Christian  tradition that Christians believe they must pray for evil doers?  Our prophets condemned evil doers. They prayed for God\'s vengeance.  What is wrong with this picture?");
AddReply(410773,"to steve #141","dean","eliot, Maine","03/10/09","I answered all of your questions but I think INN cut them off for their own reasons. I left my web site with TAMAR.  She will give it to you, I think??? \n(Tamar responds:  I did pass it on)  \nI wanted to talk with you off the air.  Is it illegal for you to talk to a Xtian.  What is the harm?  I agree with all of your O/T theory.  I won\'t talk N/T unless you ask.  OK>  Here is the BUSH answer.  As I explained in my 4 page esssay that INN cut, I voted for him both times.  He didn;t start going weird until about 2 years into his 2nd term.  The IRAQ war was a good thing.  American bombers took out 100 iraqi aircraft loaded with BIO CHEMS Saddam was sending into Tel Aviv that very night.  That is one reason why the war was fought.to stop a third world war.  My son spent 2 years there as a machine gun operator with U>S> Army Third Infantry tip of the spear outfit. That is a story you will never hear on the NBC CBS circuit because they hated Mr. Bush.  The truth is even though Bush did seem to be in some ways anti-Israel.he was a lot more pro Israel than the Dems would have ever been.  Look at OBAMA to prove that.  I honestly believe New Orleans was flooded due to U>S> anti Israel policy.  You will never get a president that leans more than 50% toward Israel ever again.  There are too many pressures influencing U>S> policy.  The closer we get toward Messiah, the more Anti-Israeli the entire earth is.  I want to leave you with an astonishing thought as we part:  What in the world would make ME lean toward Israel if I am not Jewish unless there is some connection between your God and mine.  That ought to answer all your questions.  Write back.  Dean");
AddReply(410684,"Dacon: Thanks for your advice","Steve","","03/09/09","Your view that he is a missionary could be right on the mark.  You no doubt have good Jewish instincts.\n\nOver the years, I have discussed / argued religion with many Christians.\n\nI agree with you, this is NOT the place for such a discussion.\n\nI disagree with your view, I am \"falling to the devil.\"   I am not falling to anyone or anything.  I am secure in my faith.\n\nYour suggestion, \"you gotta know when to hold \'em or fold \'em\" I think is a good one.");
AddReply(410658,"Dean: Let my try this question","Steve","","03/09/09","The screeners might not like the direction we are heading here.  Most Jewish web sites and discussion groups have a \"no proselytizing\" policy and it is hard to discuss these things without looking like there is some proselytizing.\n\nLet me go back to question #3.  To what extent did you support or not support President Bush after his October 2001 announcement that he would seek to establish a \'Palestinian\' Muslim state in Israel?  I might write you privately for the answers to my other questions.  Thanks.\n\nBy the way, I voted for Bush in 2000.  I am a life-long conservative Republican.");
AddReply(410540,"shikse, how do you know Wilders hates gays and lesbians?","Steve","","03/09/09","We do not know that he hates gays and is simply using them.  Do we?\n\nWilders does not appear to have a big problem with the Jews.  He\'s visited Israel several times, says he identifies with Israel\'s cause.  He\'s been interviewed by Tamar.  He mentions Jews in the context of our \"Jueo-Christian\" tradition.  He constantly complains about mainstream Muslim / Islamic intolerance toward Jews based on the Qur\'an.\n\nWhy do you think Wilders hates gays?  He might but I\'ve not read anything yet to substantiate the charge.  Have you?");
AddReply(410533,"STEVE YOU ARE FALLING TO THE DEVIL","",".............DACON9","03/09/09","Not to inquire into idolatry Lev. 19:4 \n\nNot to save the missionary  \nNot to say anything in his defense \nDeut. 13:9 \n\nSTEVE you are giving him a platform to preach.\nits time to let him sit in his own excrement.\n\nand you are falling into his trap\n\nKING DAVID was tested, he failed.\n\nA RABBI sad i am not sure of myself until when i die.\n\nSTEVE. YOUR CHOICE\nyou gotta know when to hold \'em  or fold \'em.\n\nthis is the time to let him die....\n\naccording to deut.\nthis filth is a missionary.\n");
AddReply(410508,"Wilders and Exploitation","shikse","","03/09/09","Let me give you one tidbit on Wilders and his followers. One of the arguments Wilders frequently uses, is that muslims hate gay people - in fact, if we have to believe him, gays are thrown of balconies every week, and that\'s an outrage. \nAnd what to think of the THREAT to our freedom? Imagine!\nNow, the curious thing is that many of his followers are themselves, in the recesses of their minds, dreaming of throwing one or two gays from a balcony, or worse. \nBut, i guess, they forgive Wildres for this little flaw, his defending of filthy gay people. \n\nPerhaps, because they intuite correctly how Wilders couldn\'t care less about them, really.. \nBut when you have an agenda... even gays sometimes come in handy. Isn\'t it? \n\nJust as Wilders himself comes in, oh so handy.....................DOESN\'T HE???");
AddReply(410470,"Steve here is my answer to your 4 questions","dean","Eliot, Maine","03/09/09","Steve I wrote you a long 4 page answer to your 4 questions. I feel INN did not let it go through for reasons only know to them.  Maybe my computer use is not that great,  I am not sure.    Try me at my site.   \nWrite Tamar for the email address.");
AddReply(410460,"Answer to steve 129 and 135","dean","eliot maine","03/09/09","Hey STEVE, I wrote almost a 3 page reply to you #129 request.  I don\'t know if INN thought it was too long and ropped it or what happened.  As soon as you see this ,let me know and I will send it through again.  It should have been listed as #134.  Dean 3/9/09");
AddReply(410456,"Dean #134: You did not answer my questions.","Steve","","03/09/09","In particular my question #2, about David Brickner, #3 Did you support President Bush?, #4 Will Jews who have not accepted Jesus as our savior suffer eternal torment in hell?\n\nYour point or question about Zechariah chapter 13, I appreciate Tamar\'s response.  Over the years, my approach (for the sake of discussion) is to go with the Christian view, that these passages indeed speak about this \"suffering servant\" called Jesus.  But what do they say?  None (not one) of these passages state that this man will fulfill the requirements of messiah or that he will be messiah some two millenia back. \n\nThe prophet, Zechariah wrote of a man that had wounds between his hands; he was wounded in the house of his friends.  \n\nSo?\n\nIf a Jew is to embrace the Christian bible -- the so-called \'new covenant\' -- this means we must reject God\'s commandments as a requirement for our justification or righteousness (Deu 6:24-25) because Paul wrote that a man is justified by simple belief in Jesus and not through keeping God\'s commandments (the Torah) or by means of any kind obedience to God.\n\nAny fugitive or rebel could have penned what Paul penned.  He wrote: \"For by grace you have been saved through faith (i.e., simple belief in Jesus)...not as the result of works (Paul\'s pejorative for obedience to God\'s commandments) that no one should boast.\"  \"For you are not under the law but under grace.\"  In other words, God changed.  Only God told the prophet, \"For I the LORD do not change....\"\n\nThen there is the notion of vicarious or substitutionary atonement -- the Christian doctrine which states that Jesus died as a propitiation, or substitute, for sinners -- which Jews do not believe; much less in human sacrifice; something condemned in the law and the prophets.  \n\nWhat do we do with all these alterations in the NT?  Things like marriage, divorce, Sabbath, diet, etc., were altered or done away with entirely in the Christian Bible.  Again, are we to assume God changed?  Jews would have to throw out a good part of God\'s law.\n\nSo what are to Jews to make of this?  Shall we reject our God and His commandments for what is offered in the Christian bible?  For simple belief in Jesus and his vicarious sacrifice?\n\nNow that I have answered your question, will you answer my questions?\n\n");
AddReply(410348,"Answer to steve #129","dean","eliot,maine","03/09/09","Also I am adding this comment after the fact of the comments I just sent to you.  Zechariah 13 vs 6 cannot be  gotten around by Jews because it is in the old testament or the Hebrew.Zack was a jew and you are a jew and this statement by whom? asks  What are these wounds in thine hands?  Who other than Jesus would have wounds in his hands???  I am curious how you answer this??\n\nTamar responds:  This has all been answered before, please go to Tovia\'s site to LEARN why you have been taught false teachings.  http://www.outreachjudaism.org/questions.html or listen to:  http://www.outreachjudaism.org/biblical.html#");
AddReply(410206,"STEVE I ADMIRE YOUR POSTS,BUT THE OTHERS GOTTA SEE THE ANSWERS","","....DACON9","03/08/09","ITS ME AND YOU,\nWE ARE EACH DOING OUR PART\n\nSTEVE DO YOU SEE THE ARROGANCE OF DEANS POST?\n\nHE WAS MERELY GIVING HIS OBSERVATION...\n\nAS I SAID, FROM HIS XTIAN EYES.\n\nHE IS BLINDED FOOL\n\nHE CAN HAVE AN OBSERVATION AND WE CANT OBSERVE NOT FROM OUR HEARTS, BUT FROM THE GRAVES THEY PUT US I.\n\nWELL HE  \'IS\' A STREET PREACHER.\n\nSTEVE WE HAVE TO HOLD TORAH HIGH .\n\nYOU ARE A GOOD WARRIOR.\nGLAD WE ARE ON THE SAME SIDE.\n\nTAMAR YONAH PLEASE\n when you drink coffee on air..\nno slurping please. lol\n\n(Tamar responds:  But the other listeners LOVE it, and it makes Tovia\'s temperature go up, steam come out of his ears, and his spleen spin. Don\'t ask me to stop!!! Please???!!!  (grin))\n\nchag sameach\nfast tomorrow \nughhh\ntomorrow right?\n");
AddReply(410186,"Dacon #131: You are preaching to the choir.","Steve","","03/08/09","I have distant family that have converted to Christianity, sending their children to Christian schools, etc.  You do not have to convince me.  What can I do?  I don\'t go to the wedding so now I am a SOB. Oh well. \n\nYou sound like a man who knows his faith.  Try talking to a Jew who embraced Christianity.  He or she will refuse to discuss the subject with you.  That\'s been my experience.\n\nFor me, proselytizing is not an issue because I am secure in my faith.  It would not be an issue for most Jews if they were secure in their faith and taught their children to be proud Jews.  Only parents are not teaching their children to be Jews.  \n\nThis is not the responsibility of the Jewish day school; it is the responsibility of the Jewish parent!\n\nBeyond that, Christians are being tested mightily today by God.  How?  God is re-gathering the Jews back to the land of Israel.  Are you planning on immigrating?  I am.  The Christian nations are being tested.   How will they respond to God\'s witness in the earth?  God has established Israel for a test to the nations.  How are the nations responding?  \n\nChristian pesident, George W Bush, made the establishment of an enemy Muslim state in Israel a formal goal of U.S. policy and millions of American Christians supported him.  Now we have our first Muslim-born president who will follow Bush.  He will try to destroy Israel and Christians all over the country say they are praying for President Hussein.");
AddReply(410133,"STEVE PT2","","......DACON9","03/08/09","\nSTEVE ,PT2, peres invites the old ninveh\n\nLook at Israel today. Peres acts as if he is still under roman rule. Peres invited a roman ruler poop , an idle worshipper, a organization that has killed us more then the arabs can ever hope to do. WHY? How insecure is peres that he needs the adulation of goyeem by inviting. Peres invited the spiritually unclean, who is barraging Jews with their lies deceptions and then conversions.  WHY?\n\nLike the arabs and the pharaoh during the plaques, the children of edom, the xtians today still refuse to accept the Jews as GDs chosen favorite nation, inspite of all the miracles performed for the JEWS ,inspite of their acknowledgement of the revelation, the giving of Torah at Mt Sinai, inspite of Israel having survived the xtians persecutions and attempted anniliation of Judaism, the xtians still want to rewrite and interprete\n\n OUR TORAH FROM OUR HEBREW THAT HAS BEEN UNCHANGED,NOT A LETTER FOR 3500 YEARS. That’s a complete filthy disrespect for JEWS WORLD WIDE. \n\nWE should accept their out reached hand of friendship? \nAND THEY KILL US WTH THEIR LEFT HAND STABBING US IN THE BACK.\n\nThe xtians want their mangod to be first born, but its quite clear the first born is JACOB ISRAEL. Going tit for tat, verses vs. verse is nonsense.\nISRAEL HAS AN UNBROKEN CHAIN OF WRITINGS AND BELIEF.\nFROM  FATHER TO SON. \n\nWe have a truth and historical facts from archeology, FROM UNALTERED SCRIPTURES 2000 YEARS OLD.\n\nThey have a rewrite every few years still arguing where was this supposed man buried here or there or over there where its most likely he walked or that other place where the romans usually take their prisoners to him had to have said those things because he was a rabbi.\n\n THERE IS STILLNO EVEIDENCE HE EVEN EXISTED.\nTHATS A BLIND FAITH.FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES MAYBE?\n\nAH HAH !  They acknowledge he was a rabbi therefore his supposed speeches were based on Judaism that he and after him altered from the original Hebrew.\n\nTheir mangod is based on no witnesses, no writings except HE MUSTVE SAID THIS by his followers 100 years later and how many versions of what he must’ve said. So tell  me what was it he must’ve said if the other gospels don’t agree with your version of what he must’ve said.\n\nAm I off on a tangent? \nTell me the difference between\n muslims yelling allah akbar with\nxtians that yell convert or die in the name of jeus?\n\nTo go back in a uturn, they go against the word of GD\nOur prophets have told us their outcome in the end. They will perish except for the few righteous that follow the Noahide laws.\n\nThey will not and cannot be accepted At the MOUNTAIN OF GD carrying crosses around their necks or in the hearts. That is contrary to G’Ds laws.\n\nToday we have a separation of church and state.If we in America didn’t have this law, the xtians would still be saying convert or die in the name of jeus, so the xtians today do it in a more sophisticated way. \n\nThe xtians proselytize door to door, street corner to street corner, literature, videos putting in care packages to Israel and throughout the world.\n\n Every penny they donate has attachments like the virus on your computer when you open up the spam you get infected. The xtians have NO RESPECT FOR JEWS as long as they get ‘one’ they disregard their families pain and suffering.\n\nWhen a non Jew converts to Judaism, they must break off all contacts with their family who becomes their former family. No relationship with even their immediate family, who at the moment of completed conversion becomes their former family non existent.\n\nIf the conversion is done properly, They have a new soul accepted in the heavens as a JEW. If the conversion is don’t by reform or conservative, the heavens do not know any attachment to the NATION OF ISRAEL.\n\nPersonally I attest to this story, A relative came to USA from Israel.A package was sent from Israel to them here in America. The package arrived opened and resealed, inside was in Hebrew, jeus literature and a cross stuffed in the package. Isolated incident? Sure, everything is an isolated incident if you like.I like to add to that…The package was addressed from Rabbi so and so to Rabbi so and so. \nI think so far I said plenty and I have a lot more to say. If this column continues and  Mrs Tamar Yonah lets it happen, I’ll say it on part3 or else also in my blog.\n\nJews should be cordial with non Jews, and that’s the limit…A SIMPLE CORDIAL RESPECT,AND NO OTHER ASSOCIATION, NEVER TO MIX IN YOUR HOME TO CONFUSE YOUR CHILDREN.\nIt would be the same thing as teaching the children not to lie, but when someone calls you, you tell your child to tell them you are not home..so how is that teaching not to lie..\nBy the way, if you visit my blog for the rest of the story, it is linked to return you right back to Tamar Yonahs blog.\n\nThanks\nDACON9\nwww.jewswithviews.com\n\nincidently Steve, ask you Rabbi how many generations does it take for a convert to purge themselfs completely from their old ways? Most converts go fall back and on the way of their falling back they damage many jews along the way..\nThats another story I heard from Chabad Atlanta GA.\nThey had a \'convert\' inviting guests from shul into her home and infact was introducing them to xtian belief.\neventually she was caught.\nI heard that from a aol chat room and 4 years later I met a Georgian in paltalk chat coming from the same town and she confirmed and gave more details. a handful of JEWS WAS LOST FOREVER\n\nJUDAISM IS QUALITY, NEVER QUANTITY.DOESNT IT SAY WE WILL BE FEW IN NUMBERS?\nSOOOOO?\nFRIENDS WITH XTIANS? \nNEVER.\n");
AddReply(410020,"STEVE, THE FOLLOWING IS PART 1","","..............DACON9","03/08/09","Steve you ‘seem’ to know ‘some’ history. Your argument is that G’D loves everybody from A to Z regardless of the evil they do. You didn’t mention from the book of Yonah\nthat G”D said they have to CHANGE their evil ways otherwise the city will be destroyed.\n\nThey did their repentance, they gave up their idols and walked IN THE WAY OF G’D , ONLY THEN DID G’D Take away the threat to destroy the city and the city did survive.\nThat is the point you failed to mention, intentionally ,unintentionally, this is the problem with supposedly learning any Torah in a chat room especially Arutz Sheva section ‘called torah for the nations, which is  a compete distortion of Judaism and a fishing ground for missionaries. Back to the subject.\n\nSo it is true that G”D loves everyone  but “HE” deals with their actions as Judaism is based on rewards  and punishments .If the deeds are not up to par falling within the parameters of Torah for the Jews And within the parameters of the designated laws for the goyeem, the Noahide laws\n\n, G”D gives warnings and if the people fail to heed those warnings, Hashem takes actions. The people that defy Hashem by converting Jews are WORSE THAN THE PEOPLE OF NINVEH. The people of Ninveh were the physical enemies of the Jews, they did not try to convert the Jews where as the xtians attempt  to spiritually kill THROUGH THE ACT OF CONVERSION. \n\nIt says in the Chumash that if someone tries to seduce a Jews away from Hashem , you are forbidden to have any mercy on that person or the city  and that person  or city should be annialated and everything in that city also must be burned.’’IR HA NEEDACHAT’’.\nA CITY THAT HAS PUSHED PEOPLE AWAY FROM G’D .\n\nG’D DOESN’T TOLERATE anyone tampering with ‘HIS’ TORAH. It says in the Gemara, the Chumash and the Talmud that a spiritual enemy is worse then the physical enemy. The xtians that try to be friendly with the Jews is likened to the snake that was friendly with ‘EVE’ AND BROUGHT DESTRUCTION TO THE WORLD.\n\nThe xtian doctrine to seduce Jews to convert and ‘’be perfected’ I include jews4j who are not Jews by xtians are the primeval serpent. These kinds of people prey on theJews that are searching for the path to Hashem instead lead these Jews to the path of destruction.\n\nThe prophet Yonah would disagree with you as he went to tell the people to serve G”D, to through away their idols and they did. If they did not throw away the idols they would have been destroyed. \n\nYes its correct that G”D Has compassion for his creatures and Yoha went out to warn them and if they still went against G”Ds will, then G’d would have no choice  and they would have been obliterate.\n\nThe Talmud says that when the Egyptians were drowning at the red sea the angels wanted to sing praises to GD that the Egyptians were drowning and ‘HE’ saved the Jews.GD said to the angels ‘’HOW CAN YOU SING SONGS OF PRAISES TO ME WHEN MY CREATURES ARE DROWNING. ‘GD’ loved his creatures but they were warned by the plagues and they didn’t listen ,they were so evil that they had to be destroyed..\n\nPOINT HERE: GD could’ve destroyed the Egyptians  with the first plague but in GDs mercy he gave them numerous warnings and you should know that it was 10 plagues but each plagues had many sub divisions to that particular plague.\n\nMOSES AND AHARON WARNED THE PHAROAH THAT THEIR G’D WANTS THEM, THE JEWS, TO SERVE ‘HIM’ and pharaoh dismissed Moses and Aharon so therefore the Eyptians were punished. This section, other points,  has many more deeper explanations such as his heart was hardened by Hashem, but you need to go to a Torah Orthodox Rabbi to get the full story.\n\nThe Egyptians still didn’t get the message that ISRAEL IS MY FIRST BORN AND I WILL NEVER ABANDONE MY FIRST BORN CHILD’, EVEN AFTER THE 10 PLAGUES. \n\nThis is the same as the xtians edom up until today., they don’t get that message either.\nPART 2 COMING\nDACON9\njewswithviews@gmail.com\nwww.jewswithviews.com\n");
AddReply(409991,"Dean #123: Can I ask you some questions?","Steve","","03/08/09","If you will permit, can I ask you the following questions?\n\n1) ha-satan in the Hebrew Bible (the Old Testament) is a righteous angel of God.  He is God\'s righteous \"prosecutor\" if you will.  See the book of Job chapter 1, where this righteous angel charged that Job served God out of mercenary motives.  \n\nSee Numbers chapter 22:\n\n \"And the angel of the LORD said....\"I have come out as an adversary (satan) because your way was contrary to me.\"  (Numbers 22:32)\n\nWhy would anyone pray that God \"crush\" His servant?  His holy one?\n\n2) David Brickner, the executive director of Jews for Jesus, spoke at Governor Sarah Palin’s Wasilla Bible Church, August 17, 2008.  Palin’s pastor, Larry Kroon, introduced Mr. Brickner. \n\nQuoting from the book of Matthew, Brickner said that the terrorist attacks on the Jews (like the one above in Jerusalem) are God\'s \"judgment of unbelief\" on Jews that have not accepted Jesus as our personal savior.  Do you agree with Brickner? \n\n3) Did you vote to re-elect President George W. Bush in 2004, after he determined to dismember and divide the land of Israel in a policy speech, early October 2001?  Did you -- like millions of conservative Christians -- support George W. Bush after he declared his vision for a \'Palestinian\' state in Israel, early October 2001?\n\n4) Do you believe, as most Christians believe, Jews such as myself that have not accepted Jesus as our personal savior prior to death -- are eternally damned; that we will be consigned to a hellish or a fiery torment?\n\n \n");
AddReply(409958,"to tamar","shikse","","03/07/09","You can divide the goyim in good and bad and beyond that all that you want, but the TRUTH is that I was SHOCKED upon my first encounters with jews. I\'ve NEVER even believed that it was possible: the RUDENESS.\nBut, since i loved them instantly, daar was geen kruid tegen gewassen (ask Yvonne what that means), i thought i\'d better toughen up a bit. \nSo now i\'m rude too, but only with jews. \nAs for the rest, a smile is often enough. ");
AddReply(409816,"Holy Cow Steve!","Rob","USA","03/06/09","I finished reading your TB, Boy ! I\'m not sure how you came to your conclusions..\n\n");
AddReply(409765,"120#ITR,US: Hay \"SHUT-UP\" & skip\'em! Is that \'bout right, USEdit\'boss?","Speakeasy","Intercourse, PA","03/06/09","");
AddReply(409764,"What the goyim think of Jews?","satch","UK","03/06/09"," They are \'stiff necked \' and \'hard hearted\'  but I didn\'t say that!  HaShem did\'  Show me a \"Sign\" before they will submit to anything!. Most every race has a quality that the rest of the world can jest about. We all know Pollock jokes. Truth is what really counts tho.  Today Islam professes that theirs is the same G-d of Abrahim and Mary the mother of the Savior is more blessed than the child!  What could be more from the truth?.  Allah is the name muhammad called the one who gave him contriversal writings that disputes itself often.[and to only this one person?]  It is a \' system of salvation with rewards by \'works\' emphasizing killing and murder to those who will not sublit to Islam.  The \'moon god\' of muhammad was revealed while he was in a cave and I would think living among these people could easily gain these beliefs. Just the opposite of Holy G-d of the Jews.  The Catholic church continued the Mother and child protrayed as holy and now the muslim say that mary is one of theirs in heaven. Emanuel,or  \'G-d with Us\'  is cast aside. My parents were not Jewish but I am a Jew [inwardly] [by faith] as Abrahim was.-- In the spirit -- but not by birth -- To the Jew First--then to the gentile.  Praise G-d for the Jewish race so we can be joined with them in glory.");
AddReply(409740,"Steve! you are not hearing me!","Rob","USA","03/06/09","I have said America is being judged, Clear?\n\nLet me clear some other things up for you.\n\nYou are bitter at President Bush, fine. You are bitter at the American people and bible thumpers for supporting him and his anti- israel policies, fine. You are bitter at the American voter for voting in Obama, Fine!\n\nI think Sen. McCain put up a very lousy effort, at best. President O has two years to make good. if after two years nothing changes, or Americans feel nothing has changes for the better, He will loose his majority support in the house and senate, this is a function of our republic.\n\nSteve, we are obviously not on the same page and may not ever be. I lack the skills to deal with people who show emotions other than frustration which turn to anger, and then to rage, then to action. I feel like I should send you flowers and chocolates, G-d Bless you Steve :-)");
AddReply(409712,"Tamar suggested I comment on all the talkbacks to my article","Dean","Eliot, Maine","03/06/09","Wow, Tamar ,what an eyeopener.  Next tim e I write an article, I will make sure, darn sure I sprinkle lots of perfume on it.  I had no idea of the kind of varied religious sentiment there was brewing out there.  One guy even called me filthy.  Well, this sure gives me a feeling of what GERT WILDERS goes through every day living in constant threat of his life.  It also gives me afeeling of what you people in Israel feeleach day from your neighbors.  It also gives me a feeling of what you as a talk show host feel from a quite diversified field of listeners.  It also gives me a feel for whatJews have felt like down through the centuries.  It gives me a feel for what Tamars father felt like in his Auschwitz ordeal When this entire takback session began,it was quite innocent.  I merely wrote a letter to Tamar to describe my gut feeling of what I experienced at a Gert Wilders speech in Massachussetts.  I did not know she was going to print the article in the POST.  When she asked me if I would allow me to print it I said OK>  I had no idea of what the results would be.  I spoke out of the honesty of my heart and this gave eveyone a chance to bring out there M16 rifles.  I encourage everyone to go through the many postings to this blog to see how really varied they are.  I wish I had a chance to sit in my room and talk with each person regarding their views.I guess this Email environment creates that opportunity for me.  I feel I was misaligned in  many of your comments.  Thats fine. That is OK>  I would like to do a monthly column or blog or whatever you call it entitled THE CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE.    I dare say there are many more Christians than Jews than would like an opportunity to be heard in JEWISH CHRISTIAN matters.  Well, there I go again.  I am used to it.  I have been a Christian street preacher for 25 years and I have heard everything good and bad about Christianity.  Never been called FILTHY before, but so what, I would like to know why that man thinks I am filthy.  I told you at the top I am not Roman.  If his beef is with Catholics,it is not with me.  Now back to the Goyim letter.  I learned a lot about religious sentiment outside of  Christianity through this little letter writing session.I had no idea that Jews have such varied sentiment across their ranks.  They are as varied as Christians in their beliefs.  There are many Christian churches I would never enter because of their beliefs.  I guess that must be true about you also.  Again, I could go on and on with this comment.  I would like to say a great big thanks to Jerusalem Post and all the friends I have at Arutz Sheva for allowing me to participate in this healthy exchange of religious opinion at what I consider to be an extremely, extremely world changing environment in which we know find ourselves.  And make no mistake about it, if your Lord and God has not got you excited and aroused about His work that HE is doing in the earth today, you are defi nitely wanting.  In closing I would say this, these comments I don\'t take personal.  My Lord said if you mention my name they probably will take offense at you.  Thats ok because down deep inside I know there is only one God and He is the same one eveyone in this article is talking about.  All 120 participants in this talkbackincluding myself were talking about the same Maker.  Thanks once again.Upward and Onward.May the God of peace soon crush Satan and May the Love of God indwell your hearts.In Him, Dean from Maine.");
AddReply(409711,"#116,WHAT YOU  ASK FOR I WILL DO....","","..............DACON9","03/06/09","TO BE CONSICE.\nI WAS IN SHUL FOR SHACHREET AND I DID A LITTLE READING FOR YOU.\n\nI TOOK A LITTLE  \'ONE ON ONE CLASS FOR YOU.\n\nBECAUSE i recognize the religious aspect of your statement/question to me.\nI want to give it full respect,kavod, with as little errors as possible.\n\nI am shomer shabbat, so my time is limited today but to your advantage because I will learn more for a proper response to you.\n\nYou \'\'SEEM\'\' to have \'\'SOME\'\' knowledge of what you speak.\n\nThe problem is I must treat your question with great respect, and there just isnt enough time to answer.I live alone and must do my shabbat shopping...\n\nAnother problem is will this blog stay up long enough until sunday eve NYC time for me..and for you  to read when you have time?\nI will also post it in my blog as a \'\'page\'\' #1 just in case..being i am getting consice and precise answers.\nit will deserve the time and space.\n\nI hope Mrs Yonah at least permit posting my email up so you can read me.\nthen i\'ll give you my blog to read..but first its also important for any readers that follow your postings to hear and learn from us right here\n. A talkback section at times teaches more of human nature than the article itself.\nSo Sunday I\'ll try to post it here.\n\nI am doing this so i can learn with you through researching.I do admit, any insight i offer, is in collaboration with one or two Torah Orthodox Rabbis in Brooklyn NY.\n\nSteve with full respect to you inspite of my sarcasm and comedy attempts\nshabbat shalom,\n\nDACON9\nRabbi Tovia also calls me,\n when I call in\n\'\'\'\'DAVID FROM McDONALD AVE\n(Rabbi Singer used to live in Brooklyn,right near me)\nemail:jewswithviews@gmail.com\n\n\nand  Rabbi Tovia met Mrs Yonah in the coffee isle of the supermarket supersol in Israel\nWHERES HER COFFEE ALREADY?\n\nrumor is she switched to tea.\n\n\n");
AddReply(409664,"#115,RAMBLING? DONT READ THEM IF YOU ARE SO BRILLIANT","","          DACON9","03/06/09","I WOULD NOT DARE IINSULT YOU BY SAYING \n\n\'\'ITS YOUR PROBLEM THAT YOU CANT COMPREHEND DETAILS AND FINE POINTS OF DISCUSSION\n,SOMETIMES \nJUST FOR THE  SAKE OF DEBATE\'\'\n\nI WOULD NOT SAY THAT TO YOU");
AddReply(409611,"Talkbacks","ITR","US","03/06/09","It is very difficult to read the super-long and rambling talkbacks. I suggest that everyone keep their comments short or medium length. Thanks.");
AddReply(409552,"we are up to 115 posts and...","yvonne","cary","03/06/09","did anyone come to the core of what the goyim are thinking about us? Here it is: *jews are spiritually blind*! That is why they are enlightening us. And, no, our education does not matter, nothing matters, we are blind and can not see. You do not have to read any books. One book will do: the New Testament. But Dean, he is a special case, he has another agenda, one that ties right in with Tamar\'s Agenda. Jews hate Israel. They almost despise Israel. The jews in Iran - now get this - despise Israel, that is why, although they live almost next door (?), they all voted for OBAMA. There it is. The secret finally revealed. The jews in Iran voted for OBAMA, starting with Ahmadinejad. He is a jew, you know, be it an apostate. All the other jews, worldwide, also voted for OBAMA! Heck, I voted for OBAMA. I did not vote for McCain. Absolutely not. However, I did not know that that had one thing to do with hating Israel. I do not hate Israel. Some of my best friends are Israeli. I do not even mind Tamar - by the way did SHE vote for OBAMA? Dean, buddy, read your bible. You are spiritually blind, either that, or you can not see (or read). I am almost certain that you can not hear!! Jesus said: *Let him who is without sin cast the first stone*.. I think he might also have said, there is none without sin. It is just that Paul messed that whole message up, by stating, *it does not matter, the law is no longer valid*. Of course, he was talking back to Jesus there, yes: backtalk!! and telling him he knew better. Because Jesus had already said that not a jot or tittle of the law would pass. Paul was too much under the influence of the Romans. A dangerous thing, Even today. Just like Dean, he was telling a jew, and a Rabbi at that, that he had it all wrong! He, Paul, knew better. Yeah, Dean, but Paul did not have your bible. All you need to do is read it, and hear the message. Other than that,.... one more thing, Dean...YOU decided to rub shoulders with *jews*, whatever for? Had they invited you, or did you just come unannounced and uninvited to tell them a thing or two? And they acted like they had no idea who you were and why you acted so indescribably impertinent and boorish in another\'s house of worship? Started talking to people you did not even know, giving them YOUR OPINION and demanding an answer?  Man!! But, thank you for telling us all that. I would tell YOU a thing or two, but Dean, I am just too nice a jewish girl. Have a nice day and sleep well. ");
AddReply(409472,"Rob, if you do not believe God is speaking to","Steve","","03/06/09","America and to Americans by means of what is happening to our economy and to our wallets, then you worship an entirely different God than I worship.\n\nGod is speaking.  Are you, or is anyone, listening?");
AddReply(409469,"Rob 115: I\'ve not compared the U.S. to Nazi Germany.","Steve","","03/05/09","Nor have I bought the leftist comparison that \"Bush is Hitler.\" \n\nShould the vast majority of American people support a murderous mad-man like Adolf Hitler - as the vast majority of the German people supported Herr Hitler - only then would the comparison be valid. \n\nYou say I assume that the core of Americans are stupid, and that we are mindless followers.\n\nI do not assume that the core of Americans are stupid.  Stupid and indifferent (or hostile) are not the same thing.  I find Americans are generally indifferent to political leaders doing exceptionally immoral, even evil things; leaders like George W. Bush and his foreign policy  was exceptionally flawed, even evil.  Yet the vast majority of conservatives and Republican leaders supported his immoral foreign policy, to their discredit. \n\nAfter 9/11, Bush said \"you are either with us or you are with the (enemy)... We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who habour them...And we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism.  Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.  From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime.....\"\n\nBush said this and then proceeded to do the opposite.  Bush counted as friends and allies - he even paid - state sponsors of terrorism; state sponsors of terror who harbor and support Islamic terrorists; state sponsors and regimes like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian Authority.  In other words, Mr. Bush lied to the American people.  He lied about the enemy - assuring us, Islam is peace - and counted our enemies as friends.  He gave aid and comfort to our enemies.  This is a traitor Rob.  I\'m sorry if you don\'t like me calling a traitor a traitor. \n\nAmericans are generally intelligent and educated by world standards.  Americans are  pretty well informed.  I have a neighbor, an American patriot, whom I have mentioned before.  Her name is Mary  Mary routinely says very publicly on the radio, the \"American people are stupid!  S-T-U-P-I-D!\"  I challenge you Rob.  I will put Mary up to you any day.  She believes the American people are stupid because we vote for these traitors and we support them.  What do you say to Mary, my patriotic American neighbor who damned Bush for not controlling our borders?  \"Only stupid people vote for and support these traitors,\" according to Mary.  I would love to give you just five or ten minutes debating Mary.  Maybe Tamar can host you and Mary on her program for ten minutes or so.  I would enjoy the exchange.  Mary is a regular on the radio.  \n\nI am not saying the American people are much different than any other people in this regard, in terms of indifference and hostility.  Only America is a world empire.  World empires have a greater responsibilities than other, weaker nations.  For now I am an American citizen and a loyal one.  I believe as citizens, we are responsible for making moral judgments.  I am making moral judgments and you don\'t like them.  You are essentially telling me that Americans can only take so much of this kind of judgment from a Jew before they rise up against me!  It\'s not our enemies that bother you and others Rob.  It\'s people like me who are making these moral judgments.");
AddReply(409457,"Dacon #114: I have no illusions about Christianity.","Steve","","03/05/09","Dacon, can you please be al little more consice.  I will also try to be concise.\n\nJewish history and experience is on your side.  The history of the Jews dispersed throughout Christendom has been one of persecution, blood libel, violence, murder, accusations of ritual murder, inquisitions, crusades and pogroms, ultimately leading to the Holocaust, which found nourishment in historic Christianity and church teaching from the pulpit, you are correct.\n\nYou said I defended proselytizing.  I wrote nothing in defense of proselytizing.  If I did I would appreciate a citation from you.  There is no justification for Christian proselytizing of Jews.  Most Jews rightly view proselytizing as an act of aggression.\n\nWhen I wrote, they \"seem\" to accept me for who and what I am, you are correct, I did indeed write, they \"seem\" deliberately.  I have asked some of these people and they tell me quite plainly, it is not for them to judge the disposition of my soul or of any person\'s; this is God\'s purview.  There are also Christians who believe God judges us according to our behavior - our deeds, whether good or bad - contrary to the ruminations of Paul in the NT.\n\nBeyond this Dacon may I ask you the following question?  There were Christians, who for whatever reason - at the risk of their lives - saved Jews from the Nazis.  There were those that saved Jews \"plus nothing\" to my knowledge.  Not plus conversion.  Not plus Jesus.  They simply felt obligated to save Jews from murderers.\n\nDo you condemn these Christians also?\n\nRemember Dacon, God asked the prophet:  “Should I not have compassion on Nineveh, the great city in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know the difference between their right and left hand, as well as many animals?”\n\nThese were not Christians Dacon.  These were Israel\'s mortal enemies.  Nineveh was a mortal enemy of the Jews.  Little doubt the prophet Jonah would have told you, these people (the people of Nineveh) were much worse than any Christians whom you do not trust.  Only God had compassion on them.   Why?");
AddReply(409432,"Steve, a couple of things that ,make me angry..","Rob","USA ","03/05/09","One is when people compare my nation to nazi germany, the other is when it is assumed that the core of Americans are stupid, and that we are mindless followers.\n\nSecondly, I love my dog, third, you misunderstood my cheese burger analogy.\n\nIt is your task to keep the Law, Mine is to be the battle axe of the Almighty");
AddReply(409410,"#110 STEVIE,WAIT TIL THE LAST WAR WITH THE XTIANS..YOU\'LL FEEL DIFF","PRESERVE WHAT YOU HAVE","......DACON9","03/05/09","STEVE..AINT NO GOOD XTIAN..\nAS LONG AS IT TOOK AN UPROAR TO WAKE THIS POOP IN ROME TO GET THE BISHOP TO APOLOGIZE\nan uproar FOR HIM TO KICK THE BISHOP OUT.\nAND OLMERT AND ISRAEL APOLOGIZES FOR ANYTHIING TO THE POOP\nAND NEW CHUERCHES BEINGBUILD FASTER THEN SHULS\nAND YOU DEFEND THEIR PROSELYTIZING  \nAND YOU USE THE WORD \'\'THEY SEEM\'\',\nAND \'\'rabbis\'\' GO TO ROME WITH GIFTS,BOWING DOWN TO THAT POOP TO CELEBRATING WTH OUR MURDERES\nAND rabbis travel around the world like yom kippor chickens LOOKING FOR LOST JEWS WHILE NEGLECTING **BORN** JEWS LYING IN THE STREETS ON DRUGS AND PROSTITUION..\nTHEY\'LL NEVER BE A \'\'GOOD XTIAN\'\'\n\nTHATS OXYMORON AS FAR \nas I can understand.\n\nwhen their church doctrine changes and everything else i posted above  IN OTHER POSTINGS like stop converting us..and tear down your idols..STOP THE JEW4J MOVEMENT IN ISRAEL\n\nthen and only then i might consider if their is such a thing as a good xtian.but i keep remembering our prophets , soooo\n\nthe last war steve..look it up\nits the last war that weighs who is good\nOur prophets tell us who the last war is with.\n\nby the way.\nlike we have a few bleeding heart liberals ,,of course the xtians have a few bleeding heart xtains..\nsome rabbis say that  they were once jews, but lived generations as xtians ,,so they are not jews..stop believeing all these contrived  situations to make a xtian a friend..\nwhy do they send aid packages to israel with crosses and gospels insode the package.\n\nIn the end...\nI need them to urinate on a statue and spit on jeus name ...take a year of orthodoxy torah...thne have THEM [PREPARE AS RIGHTOUS GENTILES FOR MASHIACH.. WE DONT NEED POLLUTION TO JUDAISM..\nWE NEED TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN THE NATION .\n\nI DONT BUY INTO THE SCAM OF NOAHIDES AS A GENERALITY..ONLY AS THE RARE EXCEPTION.\n\nCHAG SAMEACH\n\nohh one more thing, the xtian death is spiritualy which means your soul ends.\nthe muslim death is physical, which means you enter olam habah.\n\n20% of jews left egypt they chose to follow moshe rabbeinu\n\nthe question you have to ask yourself is.\nDO I WANT TO BE PART OF THE 80% THAT BOED TO GOATS AND DONKEYS AND SUNS AND MOONS\n\n OR THE  HOLY 20% THAT THE PONE GD OF ALL THINGS REVEALED HIMSELF TO?\n\nwhy this is so difficult for jews to understand is amazing.\n\nhey steve.black cloths that the euro jews wears..well that doesnt make you a jew..you can wear ARMANI and be a better JEW..\nso dont think to be a jew that clothing is a requirment.Its repulsive,\nthe purpose of the black is for me alone..i take advantage of it ..when i see a black suited man with the long beard...i sddenly rememeber that I AM A JEW..\n\nSO THE BLACK SUIT THAT IS REPULSIVE TO MANY..\n\nKEEPS ME A JEW  IN A SENSE, MY ANCESTORS WORE ROBES A STAFF AND WENT TO MARKET ON A CAMEL.\n\nTHEY STILL WEAR THAT IN BROOKLYN...and they tell stories of their family in syria or lebonan and egypt..\nWHY ARE THEY ALL HERE IN AMERICAN IF THE ARABS WERE SO KIND ?\n.WHY DO YOU NEED ME TO RANT ON AND ON..JUST LOOK AT ISRAEL JUST TODAY..HOW MANY ROCKETS?\n\nWHY DO YOU BALANCE BETWEEN THE ARABS AND THE XTIANS...\nAND NOT WITH G\'D OF ISRAEL?\n\nTAMAR doesnt post my email so  I can\'t continue this with you...\nbut the so called good xtians that email me... SORRY CHARLIE..AFTER I ACTIVELY PROBE THEIR INNER MINDS.\n.nothing like i post here..\nI am smarter then I show myself....\n\nthey eventually have the same goal..to convert me THE JEW..THEIR PRIZE, THEIR TROPHY..FIND JEWISH FRIENDS ASSOCIATE WITH JEWS... \n\nremeber daniel perl..he lived as an outsider.story is he even married a goya..but in the end\nHE SAID\n\'\'I AM A JEW\'\', MY MOTHER IS A JEW, MY FATHER IS A JEW, I AM A JEW.\n\nYOU CANT REMEMBER THAT when you mix in the dark side...\nBUT HASHEM IS THERE FOR US WHEN WE CRY TO HIM..\n\'\'I AM A JEW, HELP ME\'\'\n\n\n\n");
AddReply(409390,"Religious & Ideological Spectrums","Anna","Canada","03/05/09","I have know doubt that Dean\'s experience was his experience. However, I wouldn\'t for one moment imagine that it speaks of any US Jews other than the one\'s he met.  It\'s the extrapolation to all US Jews that is dangerous. \n\nOne must remember that in any world religion - Judaism, Christianity, Islam, there are pockets where a particular ideology is dominant. I\'m certain all U.S. Christians wouldn\'t want to be measured and judged by some the things I\'ve seen in extreme Right Wing Christian circles. \n\nWhat I do hear in Dean\'s letter that I highly value, is his want to see more Zionism in the group he met. This is a good thing, and to call him antisemitic for that is simply ludicrous. ");
AddReply(409379,"Rob #105: Your \"WE Yanks\" comment threw me.","Steve","","03/05/09","I got the impression you were expressing your self-identity as an American first and foremost; that for you, nation comes before anything else and you will fight to the death to defend your nation.  For me, self-identifying with country and placing country first, before God (even before family) is dangerous; even deadly.\n\nThis is what Germany\'s Christians - both Catholics and Protestants - did.  They put nation and race before God and thus we saw the rise of a monster in the form of Adolf Hitler in Germany, with nearly full church support.\n\nDo not think this can never happen in America.  It can happen in America.  President George W. Bush is a case in point.  Though Bush was no Hitler, he was a phony and a deceiver (in my view) who seduced millions of credulous conservative Christians that, \"He is one of us!  He\'s our brother!\"  Bush took in many, many American Christians with his \"born-again\" -- \"Jesus is my favorite philosopher\" --nonsense.  \n\nMy view of America presently is the so-called \"writing on the wall\" found in the book of Daniel:\n\n“Now this is the inscription that was written out: ‘MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.’ “This is the interpretation of the message: ‘MENE’—God has numbered your kingdom and put an end to it. “ ‘TEKEL’—you have been weighed on the scales and found deficient. ‘PERES’—your kingdom has been divided and given over to the Medes and Persians.” \n\nI warn anyone who will listen, do not attach yourself to this nation.  I believe this nation is under God\'s judgment.  I could be mistaken.  I do not believe I am.  Time will tell.\n");
AddReply(409370,"# 99, sk...","yvonne","cary","03/05/09","Thank you for your opinions, about me, most colleges, anything else? Do not hold it in, sk, this is your opportunity to let it all out. But, sk, did you lose track of the subject and this thread. It is not about me, it is not about colleges and it is, a.mong o.thers, not about sk either. So, what do YOU think about proseletyzing, and Christians telling us jews that we are not getting *it*, are *intellectually lazy*, what we *must believe*, how we *must live our lives*, what *Jesus thinks*, what *G-d thinks*, what all *jews think*, what everyone in a particular group gathered together on one occasion *thinks*? I have no idea, again, what others *think*. I certainly do not know what *G-d thinks*, or even what *Jesus thinks*. I do know one thing, however, we have been given some rules and regulations to obey and live by. And if the christian bible is correct, Jesus was born a jew, had a bris, was bar mitzvah, was a Rabbi, died a jew praying on the cross to *G-d* (not to himself), said *I have not come to bring peace*, stated *let he who is without sin cast the first stone*, warned that *not a jot or tittle of the law shall pass, until all is fulfilled*, and more. Is that correct, sk, or are you refuting this? And, sk, colleges may be whatever your opinion of those institutions, but to be employed, or have a founded opinion, it does help if you do have at least some college, and preferably a degree. No, it does not make one smarter, it is just an achievement, and something many are measured by. I know many people without such degrees who are smarter than I am, or who write much better than I do. I am not making any claims. Feeling better now? :-)");
AddReply(409362,"Dacon9: 106","Steve","","03/05/09","I have Christian neighbors  who never brook the topic of religion with me.  They seem to accept me for who and what I am.  These Christians tend to judge others by their way of life, by their morals and ethics, rather than on the basis of what they believe or on the basis of what God of gods they believe in..\n\nThere are other Christians that believe I am blind, lost, etc.  They believe \"if\" I do not accept Jesus as my personal savior before I die, I will experience eternal torment in a living hell.   I guess you could call these Christians dogmatic, bigoted, even anti-Semitic.\n\nOn the other hand, I don\'t know what my Muslim neighbors think of me.  They\'ve been fairly quiet other than I hear (anecdotally) that they believe in a Jewish world conspiracy and that Israel is an illegitimate state that humiliates and oppresses the Muslims living in Israel.\n\nI cannot say at this juncture that my Christian neighbors want to kill me.  I\'m not sure about my Muslim neighbors.");
AddReply(409358,"# 104, Mikey...","yvonne","cary","03/05/09","give me the exact link to your blog, Mikey, and I will take a look. Yes, it would be good if the world would respect us. Some have gained respect by other than the means you propose, nly extermination, Ghandi, the African American in the U.S., are but two examples. And then there are those who have tried to exterminate us jews, and they were not succesful in the end. I think military action is certainly called for, however, a much larger emphasis must be on psychological warfare. As we see, time and time again, getting the upper hand, temporarily, in military action, leads nowhere fast with the *Palestinians*. I believe a case is before the International Court whether the PA is even a state and can bring action in courts. If there is no State, then we are dealing with individuals who commit acts of terrorism and murder. If there is a State then we have a State which sanctions murder and terrorism. In either case, a condemnation should follow with appropriate action. What you say, Mike, regularly, on this website can very easily be interpreted as coming from an enemy of Israel. Watch your words. Again, I am not against your point of view, I just think it is too onesided, and that it will be uneffective. ");
AddReply(409350,"Rob #105: Conversion","Steve","","03/05/09","Rob, the reason I recommend an Orthodox conversion is two-fold.  I believe Orthodox Judaism is authentic or authoritative Judaism because - by and large - Orthodox Jews strive to keep God\'s commandments; the Sabbath for instance, the sign of our covenant.  \n\nI would recommend an Orthodox conversion to anyone contemplating conversion because a good Orthodox rabbi will look for a commitment from the prospective convert.  He will ascertain the person is converting for the right reason(s) and not for something like romance or marriage (solely) for instance.\n\nOrthodox conversions are recognized by both Reform and Conservative, though Conservative and Reform conversions are not recognized as valid conversions by Orthodox rabbis.   My thinking on your cheeseburger issue is entirely my own viewpoint.  I do not speak for Judaism by any means.  The idea of not mixing meat and dairy products was derived from the commandment to not \"boil a kid in its own mother\'s milk.\"  I take this commandment to be one of several dealing with compassion toward animals in the Torah.  King Solomon wrote, \"A righteous man has regard (or compassion) for the life of his beast; but the tender mercies of wicked are cruel.\"  There are many moral and ethical commandments in the Torah.  It seems to me, compassion toward our mute friends is of a moral and ethical nature.\n\nBecause I do not eat cheeseburgers, it is not an issue for me, though I am by no means perfect; not nearly.\n\nBecause a convert thinks he or she cannot be perfect enough in their observance seems to not be a reasonable justification for not converting if one desires to be a Jew.  Again I only speak for myself.  I would say to you or to anyone, do the best you can.  Everyone makes mistakes.  No one is perfect.  A commitment to try to keep the Sabbath even if one fails to keep it perfectly, it seems to me is basic.  Only to the Orthodox is the Sabbath central; with exceptions of course for exigencies, emergencies, etc.");
AddReply(409302,"#102 Lucy quit listening to NBC!!","Gary","Monterey, CA","03/05/09","");
AddReply(409253,"GOOD GENTILES? DEAN IS CALLED GOOD?","",".........DACON9","03/05/09","NOW I KNOW I DONT BELONG IN THIS WORLD  IF DEAN IS CONSIDERED GOOD.\n\nTO ME HE IS CONSIDERED A FILTHY ANTISEMITE \nLIKE ALLLL THE GOYEEM\nWANT TO PERFECT THE JEWS BY BOWING TO JEUS..except the few benie noahide,, i said a few..and i can count the few..1,2,3,4,5,..thats it..all other benie noahides still have jeus..\nTHEY WEAR THEIR MASK ALL DAY..\nAND JEWS FALL FOR IT...\n\nJEWS SHOULD BE WITH JEWS\n\nMASHIACH WILL HANDLE THE REST AT THE RIGHT TIME.\n\nDEAN IS GOOD? \nPRO ISRAEL?\n YEAH PRO FOR JEUS\nTHATS THEIR DOCTRINE\n\nI DONT ACCEPT IT.\nI REJECT IT\nKIRUV IS A CON JOB ON JEWS\n\n");
AddReply(409241,"Steve, yes, you are mistaken","Rob","USA","03/05/09","I have little time to respond to your TB today, but in brief, I was well on my way to an orthodox conversion, but I realise I might be required to say, eat a \"cheese burger\" at some point in my life. I would rather die than do as an orthodox jew.");
AddReply(409196,"Yivonne, I am tired of the censor mangling my comments","Mike","Vienna, VA","03/05/09","Go read my blog.  While you are at it, try reading the Torah.  We are COMMANDED to exterminate any nation that attacks us.  We are also commanded to exterminate Amalek and the followers of Amalek.\n\nVienna Mike would not look to \"find\" Osama bin Laden.  Vienna Mike would simply turn every population center in the tribal areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan into a glass crater.  Vienna Mike could not care less if the world loves the Jews.  Vienna Mike cares for the world to RESPECT the Jews.  In the real world, the way to get respect is to inspire fear.  The goyim can condemn all they want, as long as they tremble in terror at the thought of our vengeance.");
AddReply(409183,"#102,illuminati huh? ITS A CONSPIRACY,ALL THE PRESIDENTS SIGNED IT ","","...DACON9","03/05/09","\'SK\' #99\nSHE\'s FOUR LINQUAL...HUH?\n\nWORRY IF SHE EVER GETS TO BE QUADLINGUAL..\n\nFOURLINGUAL IS STILL SAFE TO WALK FREELY\n\nhoold on a sec \'sk\' i have to click enter for a new paragraph....\nthere ya go..\n\nok so as i was saying..fourlingual..\n\nMERRIAM WEBSTER:\nquadlingual\nFunction: adjective\nDefinition: able to speak four different languages \nExample Sentence: My teacher is quadlingual.\n\nshe is a master of language \'sk\' not writing.....lololol.\nThis should be our only problems in life..fourlinqual? hahaa\n\nDACON9\njewswithviews@gmail.co\n");
AddReply(409048,"some questions \'re 36\'","Lucy","Amsterdam","03/05/09","\'So, Dean....Quit listening to Rush Limbaugh and those doofs from the 700 Club\'\n \nBubbe Rose, maybe it does not really matter which president comes in, since..(?) Maybe only those who want to \'mix a little water with the wine\' will have a chance to become President?\nIf you surf on the Internet, you will see that U.S. Presidents seem to have something to do with a sect called the \'Illuminati\'\nDon\'t know what exactly is the real \'truth\'.about this and what these \'Illuminati\' are about, but it doesn\'t look kosher to me\n\n");
AddReply(409044,"to lucy","shikse","","03/05/09","I hear you, lucy....\n");
AddReply(408971,"Tamar, why give a forum to an anti-Semite like this?","Dovid","Old City","03/05/09","Tamar repsonds:  \nShalom Dovid,\nI do not believe that Dean is an anti-semite.  He is pro- Israel, against the Arab terrorists, against Israel giving up land, and cares enough about Israel to listen to our shows, read about Israel, and support us.  The point of this blog post was to show, that EVEN THE GOOD Gentiles who care about justice, can come away thinking about Jews this way.  So if the GOOD ones can think like this, just think what the \'pareve\' ones can think, - not to mention those who really are anti-Semites.  Jews need to realize this and should make plans for aliyah,- especially when the economy is going to get very bad, worse than in pre-Nazi Germany.   I will be writing more about that soon on this blog. :-) ");
AddReply(408931,"yvonne, then you just must be intellectually lazy.","sk","USA","03/05/09","Because you write very poorly.  In fact, you admit as much in #4.  But if you are hopelessly confused, you should spare us your drivel.\n\nIncidentally, I have no idea what \"a.o.\" means, but I am fully aware of how crappy most colleges are.  Objectively, your writing sucks.  I don\'t care what your background is.");
AddReply(408878,"Rob #92: Your message is loud and clear.","Steve","","03/05/09","Rob, you bring up several points.  Let me address your last point first.  I fully intend to immigrate to Israel, the sooner the better.  Though America has been a very good temporary home for me and my family, I have no desire to remain any longer than I have to.  I became active here in our local Republican party some years back -- I am a thirty eight year registered (conservative) Republican.  I fought better than eight years for our core conservative principles and values.  I fought for our  (shared) \"Judeo-Christian\" values.  I fought a losing battle as you can see from the most recent elections.  I warned Republicans, should President Bush seek to divide God\'s land, God would likely judge America.  Republicans did not want to hear it.  The Christian officers in our party sought removal for criticizing Bush\'s anti-Israel polices.  So be it.  For me, the battle is now in Israel.  I will leave it to you and other American patriots to fight for what remains of this great nation.\n\nOver the years, I have known people -- that were born of a Jewish father and a non-Jewish mother -- who very much identified with Jews and with Israel.  I am not in the business of judging souls.  For all I know, these people were born with a Jewish soul (like Ruth in our Bible) and all they needed was a formal Orthodox conversion in order to satisfy the  \'halakhic\' requirement.  Maybe I am mis-reading you.  What I am reading is, this is not your situation.  You see Israel more as a threat; perhaps an enemy.\n\nNor do you need to remind me of the capacity of America (as you say) to \"level down\" other nations.  We have seen this time and time again; most clearly in the second world war which was total war / unconditional surrender; the firebombings of Germany and Japan in retaliation for German and Japanese atrocities.  We saw the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Over the years, I have read letters to the editor from angry Americans -- on the day commemorating the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor by Imperial Japan.  Would that Americans were as bitter toward Islam or toward much of the Muslim world for the 9/11 surprise attacks which were far worse than Pearl Harbor.  But Americans are not angry at the Muslim world.  \n\nMany American Christians believe America will never turn against Israel because America is a nation under God.  Christians and Christian ministers who interpret prophecy claim that the enemy nation to Israel\'s north which the prophets wrote about in the \"later days\" is Russia -- Ezek. chapter 38 and 39 for instance.  I\'m not so sure it is not America.  America is also to Israel\'s north.  Moses wrote that God would bring a nation \"against you from afar, from the end of the earth, as the EAGLE (emphasis mine) swoops down, a nation whose language you shall not understand, a nation of fierce countenance who shall have no respect for the old, nor show favor to the young.\"  Daniel wrote of a kingdom (a world empire?) which will be different from all other kingdoms, \"and it will devour the whole earth and crush it.\"  It will devour, crush and (as you say) \"trample down\" the remainder with its feet.  I have long believed this may be the U.S.  We\'ll see.  \n\nIf it is the U.S., from what I am reading, you will join in and be a part of this effort to destroy God\'s people and you are warning me.  Am I wrong?");
AddReply(408840,"some questions, \'re # 64,69 and70\'","Lucy","Amsterdam","03/04/09","69. To #64, what  a beautiful letter!\nYou should contact Ray and Jim who do our Noahide Nations show, and see if they want to interview you. Your story is inspiring!\nThanks for sharing it,\ntamar\ntamaryonah, (03/03/09)\nClose Reply\n\n70. to #69 tamar\nshikse, (03/03/09)\n70. to #69 tamar\nBeautiful indeed!\n\nAnd, there are many \'goyim\' too who \'do good deeds in secret\', believe me..\n\nAnd thank you for making an opening to talk with each other..\n\nshikse, (03/03/09)\nClose Reply\n\n\nThank you for commenting on my letter in such a lovely way. It also confirms to me that I did not write something which is perceived as \'strange\'.\n\nI feel \'Jewish\', although I am probably not \'formally Jewish\'.\nMaybe I am a \'hidden Jew\'. I often seem to communicate \'as such\'. This already came to surface in my childhood and started creating problems when I became a teenager. The problems \'re-enacted\' themselves later on in my life, now I have given it a \'place\'.\n\nWhen I am asked by Jews who don\'t know me a little better, (after I \'dropped in\'),\'are you Jewish\', I am unable to say, \'no\'. Something inside me prevents me from doing so. I would feel that I were not speaking the truth.  When I say \'yes\', I feel that I would create the wrong impression to the person with whom I speak.  Thus, I say, \'I am not formally Jewish\'. Then of (understandably) some people go on and on, asking me personal questions, usually out of \'curiosity\', but for me I have lived through too much to \'answer, explain what I feel is accurate, and how that would possible have come about\', and in order to be clear it would take some time. then, people would tend to treat me as if \'I would have a problem\', \'case remains un-identied\', or so. Also it is not always wise to keep \'re-playing\' ones path which led to Judaism, since there are some who would tend to put \'labels\' on me to which I could not \'respond\' (and, don\'t always \'have to\'). An Orthodox Jew in Israel advised me about this, too\n\nOnce in Shul, when I was asked \'are you Jewish\', I said something like, \'people ask me this, but when I have to tell about my history and about my life all the time I would become tired, thus, as much as I would want to answer your question, I prefer to be silent\'. \nThis person may not have been pleaased with my answer. I gave her my music card (I sing Yiddish and Ladino Songs), adding: \'if you listen to my music, then maybe you would understand that I feel Jewish\'.\nNext, I felt that she ignored and sabotaged me a little. When I came in, there was only one place left, next to her. I did not think anything, maybe anticipated to be able to talk with her later on, and I sat down. She apparently refused to sit next to me, because she suddenly stood up, went to the other side of the long table at which we all sat, and then she sat down in an open space next to someone else at the end of the big table. Maybe he was a Rabbi. She did this in public, thus it could give everyone the impression, that she did not want to sit next to me. (But no-one seemed to be \'impressed\', neither was I by the way, although it did offend me). It can also be, that she thought: \'maybe someone else will come in, I will move beforehand\'. I could have asked her why she had done this, but I felt \'hurt\'.\nAfter many \'misunderstandings\' in my life \'though\', I arrived at some phase where I just go on, pray, don\'t have too many negative feelings. I started to ignore her, without being \'negative\', instead of trying to communicate with her, (which I had done, also afterwards).\nI was not angry at her, but I did not respond to \'this\'. Now, she seems to \'observe me\' in a loving way. When I walk, speak, but she does not make contact, it is as if there is some \'taboo\' about \'speaking with each other\'\n\nI do not often attend the Synagogue service, but when I do, it is intense to me and very personal. I do not \'investigate insensitivities\', and have no \'judgement\' concerning what I described. One reason: she may have been \'confused\'. But I do not have to try to have contact and be \'someone I\'m not\', although \'this\' might not fit \'her description\'. I cannot behave to according to what she might maintain as \'expected behavior patterns\'. (to every \'doll\' there is a \'dress\'..). That would frustrate me, and thus everyone else. I also do not feel that I go to \'someone else\'s synagogue\'\n\nI don\'t feel like a \'Noahide\', but when I listen to Noahide broadcasting, this sounds just allright to me, and I\'m sometimes impressed with \'what they come up with\'. Much and advanced torah-knowledge, applied well and in an insightful, and most important to me, intrinsic way.  But to Noahides there may be either Jews, non Jews meaning Noahides (or people from the Ten Tribes. See www.britam.org, and the Website on Proper Speech is Chofetz Chaim).\nAny \'addition\' to the Noahide view (I have become reserved), could be perceived as \'problematic\'(?) and that is just not, \'what it is\'. Some people seem to have given me the impression, that my background, my \'path\', and my feelings \'problematic\'. Thus I became \'quiet\', and now I am expressing this on Tamar\'s Weblog. \n\nI was once told by a person who is involved with Noahides, that \'feelings are not important\',  (\'I feel Jewish\', that statement was out of the question. \'One is either this, or that, I\'m busy with something important\', was how his message felt to me). \nHe didn\'t even seem to be interested in my resistance background, which, here to me can cause a variety of communication problems with people. It is also about \'family codes\', which exist. \n\nTamar, to have posted my previous letter on your Website was already \'something\' for me. I wrote \'all this down\', but then really hesitated if I should put it on your Blog. \nI have a blog, but I consider that to be more \'private\', since it is on a the Website owned by a Rabbi, where one has to log in, first.\nIf I would have something \'inspiring\' to contribute, on INR, then I might consider this but I wonder, \'why would Noahide Nations want to \'interview\' me?\' And I would only want to contribute something \'inspiring\'.\n\nWoman from resistance background (about she never spoke until she got in touch with some family members), left the church, started singing Yiddish, and she feels Jewish, \'interesting\'..\n\'And that in the Netherlands, where the clogs have become a rarity. That may be because the tourists aren\'t that interested any longer in buying clogs, tourists nowadays take their laptops with them and don\'t have so much time for shopping and sight-seeing\' (this is a joke)\n\nThe lovely Shul, is full of wisdom, good and sometimes \'subtle\' humor, communication, compassion. It is actually such a lovely \'letter\'. This is difficult to put into a few words. The spelling-mistakes in the letter are that of an innocent child.\nAn old lady has difficulty to ascend the stairs in order to pray. She doesn\'t complain, or ask for help. Silently and slowly she goes up, one step, then another step. I happen to see it \'of course\'. I want to go behind her, then someone goes behind her, in case she falls. During the prayers we all watch if she is doing all-right.\nVisitors sit alone at one side of the table. They only speak French. I get up and speak to them in their language, asking them if they want some more food or drink. I see thankful looks. The family, looking like simple people,  proudly explains, that their son studies in Holland, they are on a visit.  Someone prays aloud from the Siddur, and sometimes gives me \'asking looks\'. I instinctively \'nodd\' (\'yes\'). He needs to know from \'me\', if he is \'doing it well\'. I land in the Sukkah during Sukkot, although I thought that there were a prayer service. The prayer service had been a very short one on that day.  People seemed to be too busy to come a meeting after the prayer service, in the Sukkah.  I was the only woman left then. I also had \'opinions\' about what was being \'discussed\', and carefully listened to. \n\nI don\'t want to get into \'I feel Jewish\', as a \'problem\', but I wonder if there are people who read this, and they would have similar experiences and thus it might be relevant. And also Tamar gets accurate answers from Lucy, so that she might consider this.\nMy \'point\' is more that of \'listening to feelings of others\'.  \nWhen there is a problem, then men want to \'solve it\'. Women want to first express their feelings about the problem. To them, this is an important part of \'solving problems\'. The Shekhinah is compared to a mother. Maybe there is a mother who \'listens\', and who wants people to \'listen\', before being able to \'solve problems\'\nMaybe \'feelings\' of all different kinds cannot be easily but into a \'box\'. There are other \'problems\', but, on the other hand, many problems could be solved by understanding other people\'s feelings, and in listening to this, one can try to \'decipher\' where different feelings came from.  \nDean, taken aback somewhere, you seem to express a feeling, maybe a need for \'uprightness\', and \'justice\'. Also, it could be that he comes from assimilated Jews.  Some assimilated Jews may feel a need to \'correct\' what maybe some of their ancestors \'did not do\', for example, exactly standing in the gap for other Jews, before it is too late. But, he might not know how to do this in the right way. \n\'And-or\', some may descend from assimilated Jews, who became assimilated because of gentile persecution.  Some were assimilated because of intermarriage, but, there are differences concerning \'how this came about\'. Their ancestry might \'start to speak up\'. Listen carefully, and there is not one \'case\' like the other\'. \n\nI heard this yesterday from a (lovely, although very assertive) Indonesian woman. I mention \'Indonesian\', because she did connecting me with her \'Indonesian identity\', although I thought it was somewhat out of balance. She meant well. \nShe had returned from a holiday, felt a little confused, tired, (I was tired too but not that \'confused\'),  She added. \'the weather was nice, and I have a tan\'. I joked a little and said \'but you already have a tan\'. We talked, and then she suddenly said, out of the blue, \'you are special, so lovely. You are gloomy. I felt a bit embarrassed, thanked for her compliment. \nShe asked, \'what is your name again\', then added, \'And your name is Indonesian\'. She seemed to feel the need to touch me in a \'protective way\', later putting her hand on my back, \'see you, Lucy\'..(I also thought, wait until you see me \'on the job\'..) I said, that my name is not necessarily Indonesian, she agreed. She had said this, about my name being \'Indonesian\', because there seem to be many Indonesians with my name. \nI must admit that I \'got the creeps\', later on. I felt some unbalanced Indonesian \'claim on me and on my name\'. (\'name it, and claim it\'), although she probably didn\'t mean it that way.\nI do not want to offend her. Also, her words may have \'helped\' me to understand something.\nAn aunt of mine is Indonesian, and I started to wonder...She was my mother\'s neighbor and a friend of my mother. My mother had once given her explanation of how she gave me my name. According to her, it did have something to do with \'light\', having to the month in which I was born (She did not really give a \'Christian explanation\', but I won\'t say what she said).\n\nMy name seems to have been \'given to me\' by my granddad (who died in 1945). One of his last words were: \'tomorrow you will have light\'.\n(when I was born, my mother most problably did not know anything about \'this\', and she probaby still doesn\'t)\nI am drawn to colors, light, and to the Torah, which when handled with care and respect, is Light\n\n\'Non-Israelite nations\' in general also tend to stick to their identity, which is in their good right. Indonesians here have become \'Dutch\', but many maintain a strong Indonesian feeling, which may also be for a purpose.  Maybe it is thus; \'overseas contries\' were partially expoited when colonized. I say partially, because everywhere where people were colonized, also much good was brought, so that everyone could have a better life. Yet, some discrimination in a \'personal way\' also went on, some people were also mistreated without any cause. \n(In Indonesia the majority of people seems to be Muslims. Can it be that if there were a Noahide Movement (and \'Internet\') earlier, then more people from non-Western countries would have felt that they had something to do with it?\n\nLight goes where it wants\', people cannot \'keep it\'. Light is not \'someone\'s possession\', In a way it is \'intangible\'. But \'light helps us to \'discern\'. \n\nI know that the Kabballah says something about \'shattering of vessels\' but I still didn\'t really understand everything. It seems that light has to be contained in (the right) place, the \'vessel\', and that the \'vessel broke\' and the light went to where it was not supposed to go. Please correct when I\'m wrong, the Kabbalah is very holy and has to be respected as such.\nWhat I can think of is how the light could be brought back in the vessel; a way to bring light back to the vessel is when there is a big \'wall\' (maybe round if the vessel would be round), which catches all the escaped light. This \'wall\' can become smaller and smaller, until it attaches itself to the original vessel. Thus the light has no escape, once driven to the vessel it has to get back in the vessel.\n\nThe \'wall\' has to be constructed, and this means that every \'stone\' has a proper place. The \'stones\' can also be translated to \'people who grow in Torah knowledge\'. Every individual which is taking part of this \'wall\', will find its \'place\', and is happy with it. Thus increase of real knowlegde, self-respect, respect and acceptance of others, and self-acceptance, as well\n\n(\'can I send this? If I don\'t, I might withhold something, thus I shall post this\')\n\nP.s., Tamar, when you go to the studio, don\'t forget that Rabbi Tovia may need a smile, and you are also his \'little light\', so if he starts to turn on some music, then try to turn to a quiet mode although don\'t get into \'blackmail\'..\'once I turn on the music, she will get quiet\'\n(this was a joke)\n\nMay the lovely team of Arutz Sheva keep broadcasting and with ever more insight, to be a light to so many, and to Israel\n\nWith love and prayers to everyone mentioned (and not mentioned), and all the lovely people who read this\n\nAm Yisrael Chay");
AddReply(408779,"# 87, mikey..","yvonne","cary","03/04/09","No, I have NO IDEA, why don\'t you elaborate? There may be others who also have some questions. So, are you saying that you want to *exterminate* all terrorists? May I ask how you would go about that, and do that without losing any goodwill left in this world? I believe, that as of now, muslims hold the larger percentage of any faith/population. There might be some, however, who share your incentives. I could think of those who, for example, want to *exterminate* Osama bin Laden. How would you go about finding him and doing that? Apart from that, my idea of being a jew is that we serve justice, use legal means, courts, discussion, brain and not brawn. There are flaws in the *reasoning* of the opponent. They are a cult. The *psychology* they apply is old and well-known. They indoctrinate and what is needed is *deprogramming*, not extermination. Example: Hamas shoots off missiles from Gaza, 120 or so since the last IDF operation and ceasefire thereafter. They declared victory, when they were busted, yet they use that same *victory* to loudly complain about the injustice done to them. It is an old trick. Figuratively they stick out their legs, again, and again, making one stumble. If there is retaliation they yell: *see, see, what he/they, did*, *now, now, now, he/she attacked me*. Or, if one is tripped up and falls on the precious china, it is: *see, see, what this person did, without any reason he broke all the precious china*. If you complain that he keeps sticking out his leg to make you stumble, he yells: *well, yes, but you HAVE to understand, my leg was stiff and hurting*. Shorthand for these kinds of *operations* is: *see what he did*, or alternatively: *see what he MADE me do*. It is described in a 1960\'s paperback by Dr Eric Berne, titled: *Games People Play*, and another one, titled *transactional analysis*. It is as old as the world and we need to see through it and hit them over the head with the proper responses. Doing what you propose, Mikey, will give them more ammunition to justify continuing their *fun and games*. They will continue to be the poor victim for whom the whole world feels pity. There is a dutch saying:  *Klagers geen nood, en pochers geen brood* - meaning complainers lack nothing and those who brag have no bread to eat. I respect your point of view, but I have another point of view, and I have offered it here, elsewhere and earlier. That is not to say that I am right, it is just another viewpoint, and a third, or fourth viewpoint may be necessary. What is NOT working, and you and I probably agree on that, is remaining in the same old 60  year long groove, which is a losing proposition. The *roadmap*, similarly, is a losing proposition. A two-state solution is a losing proposition, because there are already four entities, Hezbullah, Jordan, (Hamas) Gaza, and the PA and no unity or government between them. A new Palestinian *State* would just be a fifth entity. Two separate states, within two separate nations, Jordan (PA?Lebanon) and Egypt (Gaza), as per the U.S. model, might work, or be a startingpoint for discussions. As for the government and practices in Israel, with which you do not agree, for that *extermination* is also not a good idea. Israelis voted them in. The Israeli system of elections does not have your, and some others\', approval. For that too, *extermination* is not a solution. Working to change the system would be a solution.");
AddReply(408743,"# 78, sk","yvonne","cary","03/04/09","Thanks for your comment. I am a native speaker of two languages, one of which is Dutch. I also speak English, French and German, as do most Dutch persons. I have been a fourlingual translator/interpreter, a high school teacher, an international bank employee, have university degrees, a.o. in economics and math, and I have made honors in a.o. English at an American University, consistently. Hope that answers your question. It is just a partial listing. Have a great day!!");
AddReply(408702,"Remembering the Past","Vince","NE","03/04/09","Two examples come to mind: 1) Egypt, and 2) Babylon.  The Jews did not want to leave Egypt with Moses, and many stayed in Babylon once the captivity ended.  \n\nPerhaps the author makes a valid point - security plus financial success is keeping many Jews from returning to the Land.\n\nHowever, the they will come when they will be gathered from all the ends of the earth (Ezek 39:25-29)");
AddReply(408669,"what goyium think about jews","karens179","USA, MN","03/04/09","I think more people should read the bible more often, then most of this wouldn\'t be such a big suprise to them,");
AddReply(408655,"Steve (48), try to understand","Rob","USA","03/04/09","Steve, I am not a Christian, hold none of the beliefs of Christianity, But I am an American. Part of my family were charter members of the settelment and development of North America. I accept the fact that America has at least in the past, been a protestant, Christian nation. Part of my family has been indentified with Christianity, another part with Orthodox Judaism. It turns out the wrong half of me is jewish, and I accept this as I have come to recognize the validity of the oral law.\n\nI have wrongly in the past, expected judah to have the capacity to level down to that of amelek, and have critisized and called openly for revolt against what I see as tyrannical leadrship. There is no doubt in the past,(20th century) judah has proven to be  most fromidable warriors, but only in self defence, self preservation, but has the capacity to punish himself in the name of world exceptance, and \"peace\".\n\nAs our history has shown, WE Yanks do have this capacity to level down to beyond that of amelek when it is nescessary. at the same time we also carry compassion and charity equal to that of judah.\n\nEsav is trying to dominate us, and has for several years. Tolerence is bing shoved down our throats, our livelyhods have been put in jepeordy, our investments devalued, criminals run our city streets, our soverign, southern border is broken, we have perpetual war, we are constanly being critisized by the world for being a bully, the government is trying to trample our constitution, \n\nSteve, we are starting to get real pissed off. I suggest any jewish person living in the US, who has any sympathies for Israel or their heritage, leave here soon, or you might get caught up in our chastisment, are you reading me Steve?");
AddReply(408650,"please do not single out one group and judge","Shoshanah Rothschild","Dallas, Texas","03/04/09","I think this person is making up some stories.Even the non observant jewish people have a lot of respect for their fellow jews.Yes we are in exile and not everyone is able to follow our Mitzvot, but I have been around all groups and never ever seen what this person describes as to be true. Who is he to make such comments he who follows a false messiah?At least the non observant jew does NOT fall for that.Also has he ever spent a Shabaton at an Othodox Shul? or at an orthodox rabbi\'s  house for Friday night dinner? What is he doing in a Shul anyway? He should be investigating his own FALSE belief system instead,and judge THAT!");
AddReply(408647,"Very Wrong Way of Thinking","Ellyn ","Ocala","03/04/09","I think this individual is not looking at the entire picture.  First of all just because someone is Jewish does not make them any better a person.  People are individuals with good and bad attitudes, just like Christians. Do not judge judaism by the people you meet.  I am jewish and not very religious but I know who I am and what I believe.  In addition, jews come from all over the world and have personalities that are good and bad.  He must look at each person individually and not pass judgement on all because of a few.  There are also different degrees of religiousness.  There are some people that are jewish that I do not like but that does not determine how I feel about all jews.  Please be careful how you decide to stereotype anyone you meet.  By categorizing jews you are thinking in the same way that the Nazi\'s did.  ");
AddReply(408594,"he\'s probably right about ","Josh","mid bar","03/04/09","many of the lost-in-the-darkness Jews in America. But very interesting how even the best of the non-Jews falls victim to those false stereotypes. \n\nTamar responds: That was the exact point of me posting this on the blog.  Thanks for commenting!");
AddReply(408588,"Dean, in trying to figure out what the","les","Ayr","03/04/09","terms of religion are, it can be very perplexing t try and get all the answers.  In todays world so many beliefs are entwined with others beliefs that the term \'cult\' has evolved.  Our adversary Satan, the Devil, or Lucifer the shing one. all names attributed to our greatest enemy who knows his time is limited.  He is called the Prince of the power of  the air as he resides in the 1st and 2nd heaven but was kicked out of the 3rd heaven.  We are told several times in the Scriptures Not to be deceived in the latter days because deception will be much greater then.  I was never associated with any Jews as a child growing up but later in life had a boss whose mother was.  He never practiced any laws or commamdments as I knew but am not judging him. It\'s so easy to judge others in this world. The One jealous G-d of Israel is the only source of truth I know of.  It bothers me to see  a person use an X in place of the word Christ. It causes the word christian to be as derogatory or equal to Islam under the Quran. The bible can\'t be carried to classrooms today and Christmas scenes are not allowed in fear of \'others\' feelings and against their beliefs. I do not claim to be a christian in groups anymore but I say I am a follower of Yessuah.  A person won\'t share their testimony with a stranger usually till they have confidence in them.  I have read so many contradictions that rabbi claim that I wonder how Jews can accept them al or pick and choose as the gentiles do.  All their churches have man made names and there is only one true church. A Jew is born of Jewish blood and will always be Jewish even when they accept the messiah as their Lord and redeemer. A gentile can join a Jewish congregation but that doesn\'t make them a Jew!  To be in the family of G-d or Hashem is more to be admonished. I learn from the messianic preachers on the laws and holidays that we who will dwell with the Lord will be practicing through the millenium. I listen and learn each day by reading the scriptures and even by some of the bloggers comments. Some mean well but are sincere in their beliefs--so is satan.  So, be not decieved in the latter days where the very elect of G-d will be tempted!  Best of HaShems blessings on you is my prayer.  Seek not only him who can take your life but can take your soul as well\'  Fear of the Lord is the begining of knowledge\n\n");
AddReply(408581,"To #78: Obviously, you have no idea what I advocate","Mike","Vienna, VA","03/04/09","Yes, Moslems have nukes.  Crappy tactical A-bombs that work 10% of the time.  Eventually, their weapons will improve.  Before they do, the Moslem [terrorists] most be exterminated.  And anyone who defends them, gets the same treatment.  Those who do not wish to get the same treatment, will \"condemn\" until they are blue in the face, but they will do NOTHING.  Just like they condemned Khomeini and did NOTHING.  \n\nAm I clear enough for you?");
AddReply(408488,"Putting on airs happens in the Christian Churches too","patricia","usa","03/04/09","Tamar:\nI was just thinking - that fellow’s description of the people in the synagogue could just as easily have been a description of the people in many churches.  Many churches have gotten the rap  for putting on airs.  Being there to show off.   When the people take their eyes off of God and put their eyes on man, that is what happens.\n                patricia\n");
AddReply(408477,"Jews are poor and middle class too","patricia","USA","03/04/09","Tamar:\n \nPlease do not think all the Goyim buy into the stereotype of the “Rich Jews”.  I do not think “ALL” of the Jews are rich.   I believe the vast majority are not.  \n \nIt is very sad that many Jews in America do not support the nation of Israel.  (Unfortunately  there are a few, but highly placed Jews, in Israel that do not support the little nation of Israel either.)  \n \nThe cause for this  phenomena is no doubt multifaceted.   I believe it’s manifestation is unique for each individual, with common threads that connect groups of people.  Here are some of my thoughts off the top of my head on the cause of non-support by Jewish people for the Nation of Israel.  These thoughts come from ME, not from a conversation with God, so these thought are fallible:\n•          Atheists would have difficulty denying God existed, if they honestly acknowledged the prophetic rebirth of the nation of Israel \n•          Individuals who are mired in sin and do not want to repent, would not enjoy being reminded of the impending judgment of God via the rebirth of the nation of Israel.\n•          Lack of knowledge of the Torah and/or history would result in individuals not being connected to Israel.\n•          False news stories perpetrated by the anti-Semitic media/education system/… also causes individuals to go against the Nation of Israel.   \n•          Some individuals maybe just tired of persecution and just want to blend in & get along.\n•          Some individuals maybe under occult/demonic  influence or control and are therefore fighting Israel and God’s chosen people.\n•          Some individuals maybe just so much into themselves, their families, their sports, their life, their work, … , that they are not interested in learning about, supporting, or fighting for anything that is not on their priority list.\n•          Some individuals may think that the Messiah needs to come, before they go back to Israel or support Israel.\n•          Some sold out for wealth, fame, power to the world forces which are coming against the Jewish Nation.\n•          …\nActually after re-looking at the above list, those same reasons explain the Goyim lack of support for Israel and God’s chosen people  too.\n \nI agree with you that we are heading into the End of Days.  The Jews need to return to Israel, because God wants them to come home.  I believe Israel is the safest place for the Jewish people.  Though none of us are truly safe as we approach the End of Days.\n \nGod Bless and Protect you and your family AND the Nation of Israel.\n \n                patricia\n \n");
AddReply(408451,"SK: Your answer is in Post #4","Annie No Mas","Annie Where","03/04/09","");
AddReply(408423,"Ezekiel 38-39","Kevin","Denver","03/04/09","He will display his power and deliver Israel in the latter days, but NOT for Israel\'s sake.  For HIS namesake.\n\nAs for us, gentiles, remember that those who bless Israel will be blessed.  Those who curse Israel will be cursed.  Humbly pray that we will be found supportive.");
AddReply(408377,"yvonne (78)","sk","USA","03/04/09","Are you a native speaker of English?  I find it nearly impossible to read your stuff.  It doesn\'t help that you seem unfamiliar with paragraphing.\n\nOf course, to write in paragraphs one must have coherent thoughts that can be organized in paragraphs.");
AddReply(408364,"Final Thought","Malka","upstate NY","03/04/09","Tucked away in his little article of individually, G-d revealed revelations, Dean writes, \"the more I tried to be spritually friendly.\"\n\nGee. That doesn\'t sound too much witnessing for his lord JC, does it?");
AddReply(408362,"Well, Gary...","Malka","upstate NY","03/04/09","I guess we\'ll have to agree to disagree.\n\nI\'ve seen enough of \"Christian Zionists\" to know where they\'re coming from, like John Hagee with his G-d revealed cause of the Holocaust; that G-d sent a hunter, Hitler, to kill off all the Jews so they\'d make aliyah and set the stage for the second coming.\n\nUsing a visit to a wealthy shul as a pretext to couch his distain for Jews? How much more stereotypical can you get?Racism slips into the so-called love of Israel and the Jewish people, if you ask me.\n\nFunny how these Christian Zionists love everything about Israel and the Jewish people...except the religion, the worship of ONE G-d. But aside from that...?\n\nIn this piece he describes what he thinks the problem is, finding a ready audience among Israelis.\n\n Next he\'ll be describing the solution--JC.\n\nIt\'s sad how Jews will so readily latch on to anyone expressing support, even if the have an alterior movtive.\n\nRead between the lines.\n\n\n");
AddReply(408304,"#77 Malka - Where is his smacking?","Gary","Monterey, CA","03/04/09","I read the entire article twice, and I didn\'t read that at all.  I still see the smoke coming out of your two 45s.");
AddReply(408296,"# 74, Mikey...","yvonne","cary","03/03/09","I got it, you do not care who agrees with you or not, and we are all *lemmings*. Fine. But, darling, is it about YOU? I do not think it is about you at all. And the world does not make a difference according to Khomeini? Really, that is a muslim cleric, is he not? And you are, really now, Abdul? What does make a difference to that guy? Is it Islam? Ther world may not make a difference, but it appears to take note of the *Palliwood* demonstrations of Hamas, - term I picked up @ road90.com, which has a few interesting videos   comments - and antisemitism is rising, worldwide. Since the end of Operation Cast Lead 120 rockets have been fired into Southern Israel, also according to road90.com, and the world is silent. Today I saw a video on that same website, and the text surrounding that video plus the video itself, proclaim that Palestinians are born and raised to die. Their objectives are getting, getting, getting, whether it is international aid, money, streams of honey or 72 virgins, and if they have to die for it, especially if someone else has to die for it, like their own children, so be it. So, if that is the case, and I think it is, together with their beliefs that the whole world has to submit to Islam, I do not see where your military tactics would be getting us. Please, explain further. If Iran does not have nukes yet, Pakistan has them. There are many more dispensible muslims than there are jews. Making deep craters in Teheran, Iran, or elsewhere, serves nothing, except condemnation. It solves nothing. Palestinians carry a heavy burden, one of hatred, rage and vengeance. We do not need to take over their burden.They are mired in the mud and cement of the past, digging holes and tunnels in which they, themselves, will fall, ultimately. Let us keep our heads and hearts clear and cool. They are trying to psych us out, and in doing so, are psyching themselves out. I think some Asian self defense tactics might be more effective than the ones you propose. But, hey, I am just a lemming and that is my opinion. Take a good look @ the videos on road90.com. Much to learn from those, directly and indirectly. Cool it, Mikey, do not get a heart attack. I can tell you from experience that it is not fun. ");
AddReply(408183,"# 59 Gary","Malka","upstate NY","03/03/09","Not at all. \n\nI don\'t have a  get \'em mentality.  If you want to trust someone like Dean (and he sounds like a prototype for all so called Christian Zionists) and take his veiled insults and false \"concern\" as genuine go for it.\n\nBut when he (and others like him) starts smacking you with the new testament and jesusing you, don\'t say I didn\'t warn you.\n\nVevel was dead on in calling Dean\'s comments contrived and artificial. In my opinion they border on racist.\n\n American Jews are shallow and don\'t care for Israel. ");
AddReply(408102,"Limited experience","Paige","Oklahoma City","03/03/09","Shalom!\nI just came across Dean\'s letter while reading my Arutz Sheva email from yesterday. I, too, am a Zionist, but not a Jew, a believer in the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. I believe, with all my heart, that Dean is making blanket statements about a very small group of Jews. My husband and I travel to Israel almost every year to visit our best friends, Orthodox Jews, living in Jerusalem. We spend Shabbat at their home or the homes of friends and every family is different in their beliefs and depth of belief. One family has 4 sons and between them they run the whole gamut of belief. Believe it or not, Oklahoma City is quite the little hotbed of Jewish/Christian interaction so we have had the chance to meet and talk with many Jews. Dean you are so much like one of our best friends who, a few years ago, thought all Jews believe one way, acted one way, and all of them desired to support and eventually move to Israel. In the last couple of years he has come to learn that there are as many different types of Jews as there are Baptists and Methodists, and \"Interfaith\" churches. There are those who don\'t believe in Messiah, who aren\'t religious at all, those who are religious only on Pesach (Passover), those who are religious on most holidays, all the way up to the Ultra Orthodox. BUT...that does not change the fact that they are chosen of G-d to bring light to the world. Dean, you obviously have tapped into some good resources, keep it up, and don\'t make your judgements about a few Jew\'s you met in one place. There is a whole world of Jewry and everyone is an individual, with their own walk with HaShem. ");
AddReply(408097,"Dacon9, Oh Brother!","Rob","USA","03/03/09","You took my bait, and wasted time, BOY HOWDY!");
AddReply(408066,"To #40: Do you think I care how many lemmings agree with me?","Mike","Vienna, VA","03/03/09","As for the approach I advocate, it HASN\'T been tried.  When the news reports that a Jewish State has turned Teheran, Damascus, Amman and Cairo into glass craters, that the Arab population of the Holy Land is running for its life and that the entire leadership of Israel\'s so-called left wing has been summarily [brought to justice], THEN we will be able to say that the approach I advocate is being tried.\n\nAs for Israel or any other nuclear power having to consider what the world \"thinks\", I think I will paraphrase Khomeini: \"The world cannot do a damned thing\".");
AddReply(408041,"Dean is right. American Jewry provides ready made victims for jihad.","Chaim","","03/03/09","Dean is right on target in his remarks about many American Jews and Obama and Israel. His only inaccuracy is his exaggeration of the wealth of American Jews. Obviously there are wealthy American Jews. However, most American Jews are middle class. American Jewry is a very alienated, delusional practically defenseless community-ripe for the plucking for the coming Islamic Jihad. Make no mistake, what is happening in Europe will ultimately reach American shores.");
AddReply(408038,"#57 YOU HAVE TO TRUST ME,AM I NOT YOUR LIGHT.","",".......DACON9","03/03/09","I ALSO HAVE MY OWN MIND.i DONT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING RABBI TOVIA DOES.\n\nNO ONE IS PERFECT.\nnot a Rabbi and not me.\n\nyou xtians want to be challeneged\nIf you agree with Rabbi Tovia, why then do you still call yourself or any xtian that agrees and admires Rabbi Tovia singer, why do you still call yourself a xtian?\n\nif you xtians say that JEWS Are the light unto the nations,,why then do you challenge our scripture, our interpretation and out observance.\n\nDo you really think that every xtian challeneging a JEW should  be met?\n\nyou have 2.5 billion xtians all sayig jews are the light yet you all according to your own gospel have to convert us or perfect us..\n\nAND THATS WHY I DONT AGREE with reaching out to you xtians.\n\nyou are to busy challenging us wth your intellect. many JEWS ARE TO BUSY IMPROVING THEIR OWN LIGHT\nso you can see OUR LIGHT,\n even from the hole that you lie.\n\nIF YOU WANT TO LEARN. SIT DOWN AND LISTEN .\nstop your missionary activities in ISRAEL. STOP YOUR POSYLETIZING ON EVERY STREET CORNER.STOP TRYING TO TELL US TO BE A \'\'PERCTED JEW AND ACCEPT YOUR DEAD mangod that you accuse us of killing\nIF WE KILLD YOUR mangod,\n WHY THEN ARENT YOU AUTOMATICALLY CONVERTING TO JUDAISM to join the most powerful faith JUDAISM?\n\nLISTEN ROB I TOOK YOUR BAIT AND WASTED TIME.\n\nRE READ EVERYTHING I SAID ABOVE..AND DO IT .LIKE THE JEWS TOLD THE \'\'ONE GD OF ISRAEL AT MT SINAI\'\'\n\'\'WE WILL DO\'\'\n\nIf you dont do it then you are a fraud.\nlike paul said in your books..\nlie to the jews if you can capture them..and you are....\n\nNO THANKS,\nDACON9\n\n\n\n");
AddReply(408027,"Bubbe Rose and Rob","Meira Warrior Princess","Jerusalem IL","03/03/09","MY husband and I became ballei chuva at Chabad because  there was nothing else so they serve a purpose. but don\'t go sending people there for advice on aliyah and expect them to feel the love.  wE felt the love only as long as were were seen as two more dopes who could be sucked into \"making Israel\"  in FL. They didn\'t think we were serious so they cranked up the \"love\" until we had our tickets in hand. You never saw such a quick about face. We were ignored and barely greeted the next couple of times we went for Shabbat. Not being quite as stupid as they thought we were, we stopped going. \nThis disinterest in Israel was found in more than one Chabad in the area so it was not an anomaly. Every one in the Jewish community thought we were nuts. \nChabad is not the place to go for aliyah info or support whatever else they may be. \n ");
AddReply(408021,"to #69 tamar","shikse","","03/03/09","Beautiful indeed!\n\nAnd, there are many \'goyim\' too who \'do good deeds in secret\', believe me..\n\nAnd thank you for making an opening to talk with each other.. \n\n");
AddReply(407997,"To #64, what  a beautiful letter!","tamaryonah","","03/03/09","You should contact Ray and Jim who do our Noahide Nations show, and see if they want to interview you.  Your story is inspiring!\nThanks for sharing it,\ntamar");
AddReply(407989,"sk & Aliyah naysayers help the left in Israel","Dan","Jerusalem","03/03/09","Tommy Lapid once said that he didn\'t want American Jews to immigrate because they are religious and right-wing.\n\nThat is what everyone in the left thinks, but few will say it out loud.\n\nThat is why the Jewish agency went all over Russia looking for goyim to bring to Israel.\n\nPerhaps the US supports the terrorists\' war against Israel to make aliyah less attractive, in addition to the usual antisemitism of the diplomatic elite.\n\nBut American Jews might not always be able to get on a plane and fly to Israel.\n\nPerhaps they will be slapped with a hefty carbon tax for the flight (and you won\'t even get a signed copy of Al Gore\'s book)\n\nPerhaps hyper-inflation will make everyone a millionaire, but a flight to Israel will cost a billion.\n\nPerhaps the banks will limit withdrawals.\n\nBetter to make aliyah now instead of waiting to find out.");
AddReply(407972,"American Jewry","Happy Israeli","Israel","03/03/09","If most of the people he saw there don\'t have computers, they are probably elderly.\nAlso, my friends in the States have told me that many Reform and Conservative \"temples\" in smaller  communities are combining with each other due to lack of members. The older members are dying off, and the younger ones are not affiliated and/or are not married to Jews. This shows that only the Orthodox will still be Jewish in the near future. They have big families and move to places where there are other Orthodox Jews. Smaller Jewish communities will just disappear. I am grateful that I made aliyah; I love my life in Israel and feel that I am doing something important for my Nation just by living here.");
AddReply(407964,"Jews outside of Israel","Chaya","mid-west US","03/03/09","Sadly, I think most Jews outside of Israel,  even in some pretty anti-Semitic countries in Europe  and especially in the US, have forgotten their history.  I even had to remind my step-father (who barely escaped the Holocaust) that we lived in peace and prosperity for hundreds of years in many countries before waking up one day to find out we are hated,  and \"our countrymen\" want us out or dead, or both.  Leaving our treasure behind of course.\nSo,  most actually believe the saying \"Never Again\",  and especially in US,  feel safe enough to ignore the fact that someday, B\"H\',  we will need Israel to go home to and be safe.  History always repeats itself,  and time is not on our side.  I\'m in the process of raising $ to make Aliyah now.");
AddReply(407960,"A Goy\'s View of Jews","Barry","Auckland, New Zealand","03/03/09","Hi Tamar\n\nHere is the view of a (Noahide) Goyim from New Zealand.\n\nJews in New Zealand probably constitute the same proportion as you do internationally, i.e. 0.25% I would guess. I cannot recall them having a “profile” in New Zealand as such – they are not known to live in certain cities or neighbourhoods as may be the case in New York or London for example. \n\nI was raised in an evangelical church called the Salvation Army – a church that I have great respect for as they put a great premium on helping people, proving their Christian faith through action, usually helping people at the bottom of society. The Jews were people that I heard about in the New Testament, but not in a way that engendered hatred or other negative emotions. \n\nI remember being about 8 years old when I heard another boy at school call somebody else a “Jew” when he was mad at them. I cannot recall using the term myself – I know that if I did my parents would have told me it wasn’t a nice thing to say.\n\nI became interested in Judaism to a degree as a teenager, mainly through the writings of Leon Uris (Exodus, Mila 18), but had no real contact with Jews. I was not particularly aware of people being Jewish, often I would discover that a business acquaintance was Jewish entirely by accident – they would have “anglicised” names. In other words, nothing “stuck out” about Jews.\n\nI live near the main synagogue in Auckland, New Zealand. I see the heavy security precautions that are required. When things get heavy in the Middle East (Lebanon II) suddenly the armed plain-clothes policeman start appearing. I walk home past the synagogue, and in winter usually say “hello” to the security guys outside. I remember during Lebanon II saying hello one evening and getting an intense stare from the person (probably a policeman rather than a synagogue member) and a reluctant “hello” as I passed. I was not angry at him at all, but rather that I had to be regarded as a threat rather than a friend. \n\nThe David Irving libel trial fired my interest in the Shoah, and I have read a lot about it since. I got to see a lot of hateful material on the Internet and wondered anew what fired people up to hate Jews. So I started trying to understand Tanakh better. In the course of doing that I came across the works of Tovia Singer, and the rest is history. Thusfar Arutz Sheva and other online communities are where I am receiving guidance as a Noahide, I have been a bit nervous about contacting the local rabbi. This is more my hangup rather than any perception that I can’t approach him. \n\nMy experience of Jews is entirely positive. Now the Prime Minister of New Zealand is half-Jewish (his mother just escaped the Shoah) maybe our foreign policy will start getting more realistic towards Israel. \n\nSo there you go – lots of Goy LOVE the Jews. You have connected me with Hashem, and driven me to study Tanakh.\n");
AddReply(407955,"Mrs","Lucy","Amsterdam","03/03/09","Some questions to think about  \nto love your neighbor as yourself might require some \'self-knowledge\'\nYou are not being made into a \'role model\' for every friend of Israel who does things wrong, now \'severly punished\', because you dared to express your critsizems.\nThis writing is about  \'differing scales\', \'good scales\', prejudices, \'communication\'\n\n* (\'on\' when some people say \'look, there goes..that is, so and so\'); \nif someone says that in a Synagogue then it may be meant differently than you perceived it. It can be a compliment of a spiritual nature, if the person who is spoken about, is really known to be someone who has performed good deeds, which resulted in an \'outward blessing\'. The outward is not really meant, being addressed then, but the good deeds which have a positive influence on the whole Community. In Judaism deeds are valued, not merely \'words\'. \nGiven the fact that Jews have always been and are in a \'minority\', also in the United States, to have contributed something positvie may be more valued, than it is in \'your environment\'.\nIn your environment, probably in a Church but also in society in general, when someone has contributed something, then this has another \'background\' to it. When there are 2000 \'trees\' then to make a \'building\' from 2000 trees is easier, than when there are \'20 trees\'. \nWhen there are \'20 trees\', someone who has carried two of them, is easier \'seen\'. \nThen the \'building\' is something very precious. Something, longed for, for centuries, even when one lives in the United States. thus, let \'so and so\' be appreciated, even if the words of appreciation may sound strange to you and unjust, outward-oriented. There are different aspects to it, which you may only understand if you would listen more closely.\nWhere does the pastor of a church sit, in the back of the church? (it would be quite an undertaking to walk to the front when he has to speak, of course it is a joke) \n* What do some Christians speak about when they are amongst themselves? (e.g.\'the dress of the pastor\'s wife\' a long conversation by Christians which I once heard). \n* what do you see on American t.v., whom do \'Americans\' \'look up to\', see as their \'role-models\' and/or, are being \'conditioned to see as role-models?  Is it people with a profession like that of a plumber, about whose lives people would want to know more? (maybe I\'m \'strange\', but, I would be interested) \n* when you had the choice between going to a synagogue or: dining with Arnold Shwarzenegger, what would you do, and why? \n * t.v., internet, media, information-age, models walking down red carpets, the best swimmer of the week, and so on, - wait. I do remember something nice from the American t.v. (which was nicer when I was a child)  * Did you watch the t.v. series called \'Roseanne\'? She is a rather fat looking lady who does not mind, saying what is on her mind and this usually comes out in a funny way. They are a family who do not live up to American middle-class standards. I think, that \'Roseanne\' is Jewish. Isn\'t she a lovely \'role-model\' of someone who identifies with less \'well to do\' Americans?  \n It could be that someone in your neighborhood of whom you think well, whether \'well-to-do\' or not, might be Jewish, but you don\'t know  Then a religious person might do good deeds \'in secret\', thus, also \'you\' would never find out, what this person is \'really about\'. Many Jews do good deeds in secret, so that other people will not compliment him or her. That is what you must realize also, when you would visit a Synagogue.\n\n* have you noticed that people, including you yourselves, can be influenced by outward appearances? For example, if someone dresses in a certain way, that can give some type of \'psychological impression.on people, whether they are aware of it, want it, or not.\nYou could try to test it, if you wanted to. Go to a public place where no-one knows you. First, in casual dress, preferably your hair not combed, not shaved, old shoes.  Then, looking very \'smart\', in the best outfit which you might have. I am almost sure that people would respond differently to you in both instances, probably without even being aware of this. \nWhen people in a synagogue seem to ignore you because you don\'t wear a yarmulke, then this can also be your impression. It can also be that \'they\' (those whom you met) did not live up to your expectations of getting in contact with you, because there may be a habit of not contacting newcomers in ways you expected. This may also include Jews who only visit this synagogue once. It can be entirely different in another synagogue. \n\n\n\n*Constructive criticism is clear, and it does not leave a vague negative feeling, but it is constructive, thus if you observe something and express this, then why didn\'t you balance your \'thoughts\' out with something positive about American Jews, possibly also including an answer concerning how to be able to change \'what you observed\'? * if trying to find answers to something which you \'saw\' was your real desire, then who has thought you to first be silent, then think, then \'speak\'?\n\n* Have you overlooked that \'the Bible\' says, that Israel is chosen, not because it is \'better\' than the nations around them? A \'servant\' also makes mistakes.\nWhat are the \'mistakes\', really when you want to \'compare\'?\n\n*Did you realize that you have not seen every member of that synagogue, and have not spoken to everyone in the Synagogue to which you went, thus maybe you have drawn wrong conclusions? And how many times did you go there? \n\n*Do you see yourself capable of \'sitting on an earthquake\' and not leaving the place, after having heard that there might be one, but you think something like \'it will not happen, since I have never seen an earthquake and it is probably a hoax, I feel a pull to stay in my hometown\' ?\nIf you do not see yourself capable of this, then do you feel as if you know yourself enough, and know enough about how you could behave, in a positive or in a less positive way?\nIt is very human not to see dangers, not to \'expect an earthquake\' since you never saw an earthquake (that hopefully will not come, it is an \'example\'). \nWhere I live, once there was a man who warned his environment about a coming flood. Everyone thought that he were crazy, and no one listened to him. Until the dykes broke through. This happened. How would it be possible that people never thought that the dykes would break through although the country where I live (Netherlands) is below sea-level?\nApart from natural desasters what I meant to say is, societies do not \'function\' as well as they claim to do, and they might collapse for different reasons. Have you realized this, and have you left a mental \'comfort zone\', trying to \'figure out\' how others might be able to do so?\nIf you tell this to your pastor, then would you get some \'spiritual answer\'? (yes, probably with a big cup of coffee).\n\nPS  I love Americans. In my childhood I lived in the USA, and I have been around Americans for fifteen years.\n\n* Would you see yourself capable of some form of \'apathy\' when this is inappropriate, and how would you want others to treat you when they would notice your particular form of apathy? Would you want someone to come along and \'report on it\'? \n\n* You wrote a letter to Tamar, and you may not have thought, that she would put your letter on her Weblog. \n (Tamar responds: I respect people\'s privacy, and of course asked Dean\'s permision to post this, -of which he agreed. )  \n\nNow consider this situation;  if your semi-negative observations about Jews in a synagoge to which you went, which had been made public with your consent, were to be fined (meaning, you would receive a notification to pay a large sum of money because of negative speech), because there would be a     (here comes an imaginary new American law):\n  ban on:  \'callous criticism of U.S. citizens, especially when Jews are concerned, and this, for very good reasons. The criticism is called \"callous\", unless it is proven, that one has spent much time and effort on the \'subject\' of \'criticism\', and has proven to be willing to first have spoken to the people concerned, in a humble way, e.g. by first asking them questions.\'  \nIn case of a possible fine (if you did not meet the required standards) would you think twice about \'just saying what you seem to observe\'? The answer to this question is probably: \'yes\'. You would think twice about what you say, and how you say it. If you would be \'fined\', not so much because of criticism itself but because of the way in which it is done, then you would think again, I suppose.  Isn\'t it a well-known human trait, only to do the right things after having had to do so.\nAre you more careful about where you \'parc your car\' (in case you would get a fine), than about \'what you say, and/or the way in which you say \'something\'\'? \nImagine a situation in which you are just about to \'parc your car\'.  Then another car passes by, takes up the space where you wanted your car to be, and then you think: \'never mind, I figive him, after all, maybe this person is in a stress, one has to love one\'s neighbor as oneself\'...\nYou might be favourable towards someone who takes up your space. But Tamar \'gives\', and what are the \'circumstances\'.  What \'s t r e s s\' might \'Tamar\' (and many Israeli\'s, and Jews around the world) be in?\n\n* have you ever thought of the possibility, that one day you and your environment, could experience a form of extreme \'stress\'; would you be able to \'reach out\', would people in the US in circumstances of extreme national stress be a light to other nations?  When the existence of the USA were \'at stake\'? \n(I\'ll tell you why not \'really\', The Prophet said: \"The Torah goes forth from Zion\').\nAre you learning to \'reach out\' in ways in which you c a n, \'now\', when you relatively spoken do not experience such difficult times?  I see, so far your \'reaching out\' seems to stop after some \'observations\' which you made, having gone to a synagogue.\nFor Jewish laws on proper speech you might want to look up see www.chofetzchim.org. There is much to learn from the Laws of proper speech. No one is perfect, and everyone has to learn\n\n(No I don\'t feel so judgemental about you, some have other \'kinds of thoughts and critisizms\' which they hold back, or they want to be involved too much \'themselves\', at least you desire for some Jews to \'act\', and you seem to be more like a disappointed \'child\'. But, do you see the \'differing scales\' which most people apply to one degree or another, and which you now \'apply\' by your version of your visit to a Synagogue?\n\n* If you see something which you might perceive and define as being \'lack of care\', maybe you could \'meditate\', and find out that some \'lack of care\' may have been going on in part of your own family.    When Jews in a synagoge become role-models who have to fulfil your expectations, then you might have to check your motives, unless you become frustrated and \'thus\' become abusive in \'one way or another\'.\n\n*If one or two close or distant family members have displayed a lack of care, then would you think that \'therefore\' your whole family has a lack of care? And, would those who display a lack of care, not still be your family?   * Would you want someone to come along, ring your doorbell, come in, sit down, talk, leave and then later, someone else informed you of the fact, that the visitor had \'investigated the amount of care\' amongst the family members which were present in your house\', during his  visit? \nDoesn\'t this behavior look a little like what you do, when you go to a synagogue, and then you report something to Tamar about what you \'observed\'?\n\n*Does the Commandment to love one\'s neighbor as oneself simmer through some of my questions? (I hope so, of course)\nIt could be because of the synagogue.  You never know \'who\' prayed, since it belongs to hidden mysteries\n\n");
AddReply(407950,"Pundit","Caballero Andante","Rosedale, USA","03/03/09","To BubbeRose, Seattle, who wrote:\n\"Those of us \'American Jews\' who voted for Obama, DO NOT HATE ISRAEL. Conservative Republicans, especially Evangelicals, have a distorted view about Jews and the Holy Land. The are hell bent (literally) in fanning the flames of hate and war to bring about the Apocalypse and the return of their Jesus, they voted very the like of George Bush, who\'s policies in Israel was to bring about this war.\n\nPresident Obama will support Israel for the right reasons. He was voted in primarily to restore the US policies in the middle east the the Bush Administration horked up almost beyond recognition, not to mention the horrific mess they have made here at home. Obama is smart, and intelligent with good people who will help him restore the integrity and good will of America.\"\n\nBubbeRose, exactly what kind of drugs are you on? Or are you merely retarded?\nOr been listening to NPR or reading the NY Times? One way or another, you have swallowed a lot of Bravo Sierra. You are precisely what Lenin referred to as a \"useful idiot\". When Obama sells Israel down the river and makes the US like Cuba, you can pat yourself on the back for having helped make it happen. ");
AddReply(407934,"To \"32\"","Dave","Colorado","03/03/09","    I agree.  There have been WAY too many people saying that they \"Hear\" from G*D, but do they \"Shema\"?  To hear from G*D is to read the words he gave us.  Not to have some form of esoteric (sorry for spelling) voice giving them doctrine.  \n\n    Christians say that they follow christ.  But more appropriately they follow Christianity, which was started by Roman pagans such as Constantine and those like him.  They do not follow the Word of G*D.  They carry it around in their Bibles, but they say it was done away with.  How bizzare?\n\n  \n\n");
AddReply(407886,"Oh please!","sk","USA","03/03/09","Last time I checked, most American Jews did want Israel to continue and be secure--not that they know how this is to be done.  If this were not the case, dear Hillary would have been kissing Suha Arafat all these years rather than pretending to support Israel.\n\nHowever, when one gets right down to it, Israel is not a very appealing place.  One consequence of your Bolshevik leadership (only 3% for National Union!) is that most American Jews (who are liberal and who feel they cannot be more holy than the Pope) do not have the kind of passionate pride in your country that they had, say, after the \'67 war.  \n\nPersonally, I know 1000x more about Israel than anyone darling Dean bumped into, and I refuse even to take a vacation in Israel.");
AddReply(407885,"After all the long Diatribes","Annie No Mas","Annie Where","03/03/09","Yvonne FINALLY said the truth. #4\n  \"As for me, most of the time I barely know what I am thinking.\"");
AddReply(407878,"#8 Malka - Please put down your two 45\'s!","Gary","Monterey, CA","03/03/09","You sound like a female Yosemite Sam!");
AddReply(407866,"Bubbe Rose, Vevel","Malka","upstate NY","03/03/09","I agree with you.\n\nYou, too, Dacon. Though I wouldn\'t be harsh with genuine Noachides who do study under the guidance of Orthodox rabbis, including many from Chabad.\n\nI welcome the support and love of GENUINE Noachides, but these Christian Zionists should just but out. Sorry, but I just don\'t trust them!");
AddReply(407865,"Dacon9, 55","Rob","USA","03/03/09","How do I know I\'m dented if you dont show me the evidence? Or would you rather I run around trying to tell you how wrong you are about redemtion and how you are blind to my man god messiah, LOL!\n\nIronically and thankfully Rabbi Singer does not have your attitude towards sharing the truth with dented persons ;-)");
AddReply(407860,"Steve 48, take it easy now","Rob","USA","03/03/09","Esav is in control here at the present, dont pig pile us in the same pot of lard. we\'re going to get our rumps reamed in the not to far off future. Keep that in mind...");
AddReply(407833,"THAT WAS FROM A XTIAN OBSERVATION OF JEWS.","","...... DACON9","03/03/09","HE IS DENTED.\nI DO NOT KNOW ANY JEW IN NEW YORK THAT DOESNT KNOW JERUSALEM POST.\n \nOR THE MOVIE FITNA.\n I dont know any jew in any of my travels that doesnt LOVE ISRAEL OR TORAH OR THE ONE GD OF ISRAEL.\n\nI KNOW PLENTY OF COMMUNITIES WHO WERE VERY AGAINST OBAMA,\n\nSO ASK A XTIAN TO OBSERVE JEWS IS THE SAME AS GETTING A TORAH TRANSLATION WITH COMMENTARY AND INSIGHT.\nTHE VALUE IS --0-\n\nTAMAR YONAH\nTHIS IS THE MANY PROBLEMS FROM THE NEW MOVEMENT OF BENIE NOAHIDE AND INTEFAITH DIALOGUES.\nYOU SEE IT AS ENLIGHTENING OR EDUCATIONG THEM TO JUDAISM\nI SEE IT AS BEING CORNERED AND DEFENDING TORAH AND JUDAISM..AND WHY SHOULD I CARE WHAT THEY THINK\n\nTO USE RABBI TOVIA WORDS\nWHAT DOES GD THINK ? \n\n\nTHANK YOU\nDACON9\n");
AddReply(407801,"#23 and #41 (the elections)","Steve","","03/02/09","#23 wrote: \"Why does Ichud Leumi hold 3 Knesset seats instead of 120?\" \n\n#41wrote: \"The Jews in Israel are the wrong kind of Jews. True Jews would fight the evil in their midst and the evil outside their midst.\"\n\nObviously enough (\"true\") Jews in Israel voted for National Union (Ichud Leumi) to meet the threshold; to get the paltry three or four seats the party got.  I am also gravely disappointed in the results of the elections, particularly the numbers (on the right) that voted for Israel Beiteinu and Likud.  Neither party (unlike NU) has come out unequivocally against a Muslim-terror state in Israel.  Both openly advocate / entertain territorial compromise to Israel\'s enemies.\n\nIf there was any residual doubt about Likud, the charade of national unity Netanyahu conducted last week with the traitorous Kadima party should have dispelled any notion that the man has learned anything positive since he was ousted in 1999.  If there was any residual question about Israel Beiteinu and Avigdor Lieberman\'s lack of integrity, his article in the The Jewish Week, last Wednesday in which he stated that he advocates the establishment of a PLO terror state, should have done the job.");
AddReply(407795,"sometimes a broken watch is right but this guy is full of himself!","Velvel","silver spring","03/02/09","This guy dean needs a reality check.  No matter what \"G-d told him,\" this letter sounds completely contrived and artificial.   As others have stated, you can\'t write a thesis on American Jews by visiting a lone reform shul, lumping all Jews together as one and the same, and then using a few propaganda-like generalizations to draw simplistic conclusions.");
AddReply(407790,"Eric #47: Thanks for your response.","Steve","","03/02/09","Let\'s examine this.  \n\nYou wrote: \"Most Christians supported Bush until late into his presidency, when he became less popular among Christians and non-Christians. I always had misgivings about Bush because of the 9/11 situation... I was also against the \"Road Map\" which leads to hell. I am a Christian, but I am not blind...\"\n\nAt the time I reluctantly voted for George W. Bush -- the son of George Herbert Walker Bush -- in 2000, to my eternal discredit, I did not know much about Bush or his family\'s close financial ties to our enemy; Saudi Arabia.  I did not know about the Carlyle Group -- which receives prodigious business contracts from wealthy Saudi Wahhabi princes.  Were you aware for instance that close family friend, James Baker\'s law firm represents the Saudi Royal family against 9/11 victim\'s families?  I did not know Bush and his father were members of the Carlyle Group.  I did not know Saudi princes bought Bush\'s failing Harken Energy stock at a highly inflated price.  I did not know Bush\'s grandfather did business with Nazi Germany before Congress passed the \"Trading With The Enemies Act,\" forbidding such treasonous activity.  There was a lot I did not know about Mr. Bush and his family.  \n\nThe thing that bothered me as a conservative Republican were all Bush\'s condemnations and scoldings of Israel after every horrific / bloody suicide - homicide bombing, in early 2001.  Bush scolded Israel to exercise \"restraint.\"  The Bush administration condemned Israel for exercising an \"excessive and disproportionate response\" to jihad terrorism, etc.  Then came our own mass-suicide bombing on September 11, 2001.  What did Bush do in response?  Bush declared war on Israel, early October 2001.  Under pressure from the Saudis -- who Bush knew were knee-deep in the September atrocities -- he announced his administration would work to establish a Muslim (terror) state in Israel\'s heartland; in other words appeasement of America\'s enemies and betrayal of an our only ally in the Middle East.   A self-professed (conservative) Christian believer did this.\n\nThis was treasonous!  I realized then that Bush was the enemy; the enemy and the traitor within.  How could any God-fearing Christian (or Jew) not have seen what I saw?  How could any ethical and moral-minded Christian or Jew not see George W. Bush for the traitor he is?  How could any God-fearing Christian or Jew not realize Bush was the enemy?  Bush was a more \"formidable\" enemy than any Muslim jihadist. \n\nCicero wrote in part: \"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely...... A murderer is less to be feared...\" 42 BCE\n\nIs it any wonder God gave this once great nation its first Muslim-born president? ");
AddReply(407789,"i should add...","shikse","","03/02/09","..that i really like #21..\n\ni think fear is a HUGE factor in all of these problems we\'re facing, jews and gentiles alike. Yet, thanks to the jews i learned that \'we need not fear anything else when we fear God\'. \n");
AddReply(407771,"to #39","shikse","netherlands","03/02/09","Listen, geert Wilders is just as extremist in his views as those he fights. Furthermore, behind the scenes all sorts of political games are played (by nearly everyone involved, pro and con), and really, Wilders is not the hero some foreigners seem to think he is. And, seriously, i wonder what HE is doing in a jewish place of \'worship\' ....\nAnd that most of his followers know virtually nothing about what he stands for: that\'s the truth. It\'s angry, frustrated people in need of an enemy to blame it on basically. \nGeert Wilders is not persecuted, that\'s nonsense. A court is investigating if he CAN be brought before the judges for inciting hatred. \nAnd he DOES do that. \nIn the Chamber he can say whatever he wants, really everything, he is totally free. But the question is about his activities outside of the chamber, as a private person. And we\'re not talking ABOUT INCIDENTS HERE. HE\'S ON A PERSONAL CRUSADE AGAINST EACH AND EVERY MUSLIM, OR ARAB. \nSince when are jews crusaders?\nIs that the way to solve problems?\nIf so, i\'m really disappointed. I was raised a christian. And i see SO MUCH in the jewish world that reminds me of my own background...\nPerhaps it\'s only human... \nJust as it is all too human of me to expect \'superhuman\' behaviour from God\'s chosen people...\nGlad some of them speak Dutch though :-)");
AddReply(407770,"An answer to Dean","Ruvy","Samaria","03/02/09","I see my friend Steve wrote in comment 44.  Presently, I\'m writing  a book that deals with a lot of this issue, but the bottom line is that the Exile is over and there is the distinct possibility that the same thing will happen to American Jews as happened to the Hebrews in Goshen who refused to believe in the miracles Hashem had worked for His people.\n\nThey died.\n\nThat may very well be what is meant by the Redemption being patterned after the events surrounding PessaH.\n\nIf that idea turns off American Jewish readers of this column, so be it.\n\nEvery now and then someone has to bluntly warn American Jews that where there is sin there will punishment, and where there is punishment, there is sin - one of the fundamental ideas quoted by the great Rav Kahane, z\"l, hy\"d.  \n\nBut Dean, generally Jews stop up their ears when warned of disaster.  This is not just true in America.  This was true in Europe, it is true here.\n\nThese things hurt to say - most of my family is still in America.  I sense that they think I\'m the crazy one for moving away from America.  The joke may well be on them.");
AddReply(407756,"PS: One more point","Steve","","03/02/09","Dean wrote: \"This is what I feel the sum of the matter is. Many U.S. Jews hate Israel. That may be too strong. U.S. Jews ignore Israel and this is why. Israel is an extreme threat to them. If they thought about Israel too long, they might feel they have to help Israel....\"\n\nAgain, this may in fact be true but in all fairness, I\'ve got to say pretty much the same thing about American Christians by and large.  \"Many (most?) U.S. Christians hate Israel.\"  Why?  Obviously \"hate\" is a relative term.  If you do not love Israel and Israel\'s God then you \"hate\" Israel and Israel\'s God.  The Commandment says: \"You shall have no other gods before Me.\"   If you are not on our side (the Almighty\'s side) then you are on the side of the enemy.  Many American Christians, while they say with their lips, \"I love Israel,\" supported President George W. Bush - who was / is on the side of the enemy - as he made war on Israel.  They supported Bush to the very end of his term of office.  These are Christians that hate Israel.  \n");
AddReply(407755,"To Steve #44","Eric","USA","03/02/09","You closed with, \"Furthermore, I would be delighted to hear from any Christian reader on this particular peeve of mine; American Christian faithlessness and betrayal as an American leader warred against Israel and Israel\'s God.\" --- Most Christians supported Bush until late into his presidency, when he became less popular among Christians and non-Christians. I always had misgivings about Bush because of the 9/11 situation having many irregularities suggesting government invovlement. I was also against the \"Road Map\" which leads to hell. I am a Christian, but I am not blind. In fact, as a Christian, I believe I see more clearly than non-Christians. And what I see is some very bad times coming for both Americans and Israelis, for Christians and for Jews. Islam is gaining strength and is spewing its hatred against non-Muslims world-wide. And unless governments and nations act to stop this Islamic evil, they will find themselves under Islamic slavery. Every Friday, in Tehran, demonstrations are held screaming \"Death to Israel\" and \"Death to America\". And we have the stupidity to think we can negogiate peace with these fanatics?!");
AddReply(407751,"Another point of view","ProphetJoe","USA","03/02/09","I\'m a Christian living in the USA and I am a Zionist. I wouldn\'t call myself a \"righteous\" man, but I certainly hope G-d feels that I am making progress in that regard. I have referred to myself as a \"Christian Zionist\" on occasions, and contrary to some opinions expressed above, I do not support Israel as part of a subversive Christian evangelical mission. \n\nI support Israel for several reasons: \n\n1) the Israelis have the moral high-ground in this Middle Eastern crisis. How can a good and moral person support the Islamic Terrorists who call for the destruction of Israel and the Jews? Seriously...\n\n2) The Jews have historically called this land home for thousands of years -- hundreds of years before the Prophet Muhammad lived and before Islam became a factor.\n\n3) As a Christian, Israel is my Holy Land too. My Bible and my heritage share a great deal in common with your own. We can either work together to save Israel or fall apart... that\'s what I think of when I refer to Judeo-Christian partnership.\n\nAs for Dean and his letter: I don\'t know what to make of his experience. I do take umbrage to his sentence which begins: \"Many, many U.S. Jews are well off with big bucks and big estates and big connections and extremly little persecution here in the U.S.\"  While I might agree that the persecution of Jews in the US is more subliminal than racism (against African-Americans, for example), I can\'t agree with the whole \"big bucks, big estates, and big connections\" phrase.  \n\nCome on, Dean.. that\'s about as reality-based as saying all black men are well endowed. Sure, there are some rich American Jews. There are also many, many more middle-class American Jews.  You statement sounds almost too stereotypical to be true...\n\nShalom,\nPJ");
AddReply(407744,"To BubbeRose #36: Obama??","Eric","USA","03/02/09","You praise Obama. Why? Obama has accepted the claim of \"Messiah\" instead of denouncing it. Any man who accepts that claim is the WRONG man to vote for! Only the foolish, the spiritually undiscerning, or the outright evil person voted for Obama. The foolish voted for Obama because they are ignorant that he is a Marxist. The spiritually undiscerning voted for Obama because they do not understand that Marxism is evil. And the evil person voted for Obama because they know he is a Marxist and they do understand Marxism is evil. Anyone who voted for Obama is either a fool, spiritually undiscerning, or evil. If Obama had denounced the claims of others that he is the \"Messiah\", he would be less dangerous. But because he accepts that claim, he himself is evil.");
AddReply(407736,"A few unconsidered comments","Steve","","03/02/09","Sorry in advance for any typographical and / or spelling errors:\n\nI\'ve not had a chance yet to read all the posts here on this topic.  I wrote this bit (below) before I read #24 as suggested.  Zelig #24, you wrote: \"The majority of American Jews have never heard of the Jerusalem Post, let alone Arutz Sheva. They get most of their news about Israel from the US mainstream media...\"\n\nFirst, I cannot imagine that there are this many Jews who do not have Internet access when better than 50% of the American people do.  As intellectually advanced (or whatever the term) and inquisitive a people as the Jews are, to get all one\'s information from the mainstream media is unforgivable!  There is no excuse for this.  It would be akin to Jews in Germany getting all their information from Julius Streicher\'s Der Sturmer in the nineteen thirties.\n\nI wonder what Tamar thinks of this.  Dean did not say what kind of synagogue he visited, whether Reform, Conservative, Orthodox, Modern Orthodox.  Zelig says it was Conservative.  Conservative is not religious for heavens sakes.   Is it?  I live in a spiritual wilderness of sorts.  We have two liberal synagogues here in my area.  \n\nPolls indicate, American Jews (especially the youth) are becoming increasingly alienated from Israel.   We keep reading these trends.  This does not bode well for American Jews\' future prospects; not from a spiritual point of view.  It does indeed seem Jews here in my area are laying a bit low.    I\'ve been fairly outspoken (in defense of Israel) on the radio and the newspaper here in the past, as I mentioned once on Tamar\'s program.  A few years back I sold some of my greenhouse-grown Poinsettias to one of our local synagogues.  They sell them annually as a fund-raiser.  The lady who was in charge that particular year said something to the effect that my letters to the editor (they were about Bush\'s anti-Israel policies) were a little rough; I think that is the word she used. \n\nBut let\'s be honest.  Christians (many who claim I am spiritually blind) literally worshipped former President George W. Bush -- with very, very few exceptions -- as he (Bush) waged war on Israel, on the land of Israel and on the God of Israel; American Christians stood by this traitor; to a man and to a woman.  Even John Hagee and Christians United For Israel -- an ostensible pro-Israel organization -- stood solidly with Bush as he sold out Israel.  I would enjoy hearing Dean\'s opinion on this act of mass-betrayal by American Christians.  Perhaps I might be able to ascertain his frame of reference.  \n\nFurthermore, I would be delighted to hear from any Christian reader on this particular peeve of mine; American Christian faithlessness and betrayal as an American leader warred against Israel and Israel\'s God.");
AddReply(407689,"Re: #38 Correct. Everyone should read #24. Also #10.","Michael","Galut","03/02/09","However, I wrote #10, so I\'m not the best judge of whether it is worthwhile...\n\nI\'d estimate 99.9% of North American Jews have never heard of Arutzsheva. Maybe 10-20% of \"Orthodox\" Jews outside of Israel have heard of Arutzsheva.\n\nbtw, I despise the word \"Orthodox\" and only use it for pragmatic purposes. \n\nFrom wikipedia:\nUse of the \"Orthodox\" label seems to have begun towards the beginning of the 19th century. Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch wrote in 1854 that:\n\n    ...it was not \"Orthodox\" Jews who introduced the word \"orthodox\" into Jewish discussion. It was the modern \"progressive\" Jews who first applied the name to \"old,\" \"backward\" Jews as a derogatory term. This name was... resented by \"old\" Jews. And rightfully so... ");
AddReply(407687,"Bubbe, you\'ve redeemed Seattle!","Rob","USA","03/02/09","You sound like me, Scarry! :-)");
AddReply(407682,"To Mike #23","Eric","USA","03/02/09","I can answer your questions. The answer is this: The Jews in Israel are the wrong kind of Jews. True Jews would fight the evil in their midst and the evil outside their midst. The only way to turn these wrong Jews into the right Jews is to have another Holocaust. Then, out of necessity, they will turn to Hashem and will (for awhile) be the right kind of Jew. Hashem used disaster to get the Jew\'s attention time and time and time again. It worked for awhile, but when Jews get comfortable, they forget Hashem and so Hashem repeats the historic scenario ad infinitum ad nausem. You can read all about it in the Hebrew scriptures. But, according to the Hebrew scriptures, there is coming a time when the Jews will finally come to their spiritual senses and embrace Hashem for good and eternity. But also according to the Hebrew scriptures another Holocaust will be required (the worst one of them all) before this happens. Jews who do not understand their spiritual core are doomed to repeat their horrific history. Jews who do understand their spiritual core, learn from history. And these are the two kinds of Jews. The spiritually stupid, and the spiritually wise.");
AddReply(407675,"let me give it a try, Mikey...","yvonne","cary","03/02/09","although I do not know the answers either. Mikey, Israel has tried the responses you advocate, and they have not only not helped the jewish cause, they have backfired. You have been advertising your views on israelnn.com for a while now, and not many people are agreeing with you. Do you get a message? The problem with the *palestinian* *resistance* is that they do no mind death, especially since the leadership stays alive, in Syria, a.o., and sends the poor natives out to die for them. They even tell that poor population that it is a honor to die. But they never attempt to be so honored themselves. Their paycheck is too good. Every effort is turned into a *victory* for *the palestinians*, as they turn black into white and vice versa, and down into up, also and vice versa. Apparently they also do not mind eating the bread of shame and demanding to be fed by their *enemy*, nor do they care that Allah and his prophet Muhamed are given a black eye and a bloody nose by their wanton murder of innocents all over the world, even their own brothers, sisters, and children. It is not a jewish or Israeli issue. It is a MUSLIM ISSUE. It is an ARAB ISSUE. Making absentee *leadership* rich at the expense of their Arab populations is the issue. It does not help those poor *palestinians*, on the contrary, their situation does not change. They continue to be kept in tenements, not by Israel, but by Arabs, in Lebanon and in Gaza. And they are unwanted in Jordan and Egypt. What is needed is micro project loans to the industrious poor, specifically women by Arab bankers, on the model of the Bangladeshi Grameen Bank, already in existence in Saudi Arabia. And NO MONEY for the socalled Palestinian Leadership. Not free access to Israel, but free access to their own homelands of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. We need to understand the issues, use proper rhetoric and argument and be true and analytical in our solutions. Solutions for energy and other important aspects for both Israel and the U.S. are already being worked on. Your rhetoric, Mikey, and your solutions, Mikey, give aid and comfort to the enemy, because, like them, you want to fight Israel and the Israelis. Warfare, guns and ammo, digging trenches, are all out of the old school and 1800\'s tactics. Get with it, Mikey, join the 21st century. And, no, Mikey, Dean is not right, but even if he were, what is it to him? *Christians* have been telling jews what to do, how to do it, how to believe and what to believe, by hook and by crook for at least two millenia. As for this jew, Mikey, I was already. And in Israel, Mikey, the leadership has to take the opinions of the world into consideration, that includes the U.S., Russia, and Gr. Britain for starters, and also Europe. More, as jews Israeli Leadership has to take Torah and jewish mandate and mission into consideration. What counts to Arabs, Mikey, is their socalled honor, and craftyness. To win, we must be a few steps ahead of them, at least. It is not a matter of brawn, Mikey, it is a matter of brain. It is not a matter of force, Mikey, it is a matter of power.");
AddReply(407650,"vertel me dan maar weer, shikse...","yvonne","cary","03/02/09","meer about that *wig* of Geert Wilders. Geert Wilders made a movie and agree or disagree with this movie, or his point of view, it appears rather un*Nederlands* to me to be prosecuted for a movie or an opinion. That is not how I remember Nederland. *Overigens* this blogpost, in my opinion, was not about Geert Wilders but about the view of one socalled *christian zionist* about *jews*. And Dean came to his well founded (??) opinions about jews after one visit to a meeting. So, here is another opinion: why did you even post a comment, and what do you have to say, about anything, starting with Geert Wilders\' *wig*? Another opinion: As soon as someone, or a group, starts speaking of another groups as *they*, no longer seeing invividuals, we are confronted with an *ism*, as in *racism*. But, again, that is just an opinion, you may have another one. Let us hear it!  So, shikse, U denkt dus dat declaratie van a fatwa by foreigners in The Netherlands, against The Netherlands and the rest of Europe, to control the opinions and writings of a Dutch Parliamentarian, or anyone in The Netherlands or the rest of Europe, is regular and legal procedure? Please, explain!! In addition, why is the writer of the above letter to Tamar Yonah so interested in *rubbing shoulders with jews at a jewish place of worship*? Whatever for? The people at the meeting probably knew each other well, and Dean was not known, and obviously not a jew. Why should they be required and expected to share their opinions with someone they never met?");
AddReply(407642,"Everyone should read #24","Gary","USA","03/02/09","");
AddReply(407636,"To # 20 Elaine","Malka","upstate NY","03/02/09","I agree with you 100-percent. Next thing you know he\'ll be saying, \"Some of my best friends are Jews...\"\n\nI simply don\'t trust anyone who identifies himself as a Christian Zionist. They\'re just trying to ingratiate themselves among religious Jews in order to convert or convey an attitude of \"aren\'t I wonderful? I care for the poor Jews in Israel.\"\n\nThe guy who used to term pagan used the correct term. There is no Judeo-Christian anything.");
AddReply(407631,"What a Goy!","BubbeRose","Seattle","03/02/09","He makes 1 trip to a Reform Shul and now he\'s an expert on American Jews and their innermost feeling about Yisrael.  Meshugeh!\n\nTake a trip, see it first hand.  Talk to some religious Jews - those who have made aliyah.  Achava Eretz Yisrael is at the heart of those who have come.\n\nThose of us \"American Jews\" who voted for Obama, DO NOT HATE ISRAEL.  Conservative Republicans, especially Evangelicals, have a distorted view about Jews and the Holy Land.  The are hell bent (literally) in fanning the flames of hate and war to bring about the Apocalypse and the return of their Jesus,  they voted very the like of George Bush, who\'s policies in Israel was to bring about this war.\n\nPresident Obama will support Israel for the right reasons.  He was voted in primarily to restore the US policies in the middle east the the Bush Administration horked up almost beyond recognition, not to mention the horrific mess they have made here at home.  Obama is smart, and intelligent with good people who will help him restore the integrity and good will of America.\n\nSo, Dean....Quit listening to Rush Limbaugh and those doofs from the 700 Club and get to know some observant Jews.  Find a Chabad House  and get to know the real heart of the Jewish people.\n\n\n\n");
AddReply(407616,"To Dean","Ben-Yehudah","K\'far Tapu\'ah","03/02/09","http://esseragaroth.blogspot.com/2009/03/what-goyim-think-about-jews.html\n\nDean,\n\nYou seem like a nice enough guy, and you may have made some good points. But, I really couldn\'t care less if you\'re right or wrong, or what any other goyim think about Jews.\n\nAs Rabbi Me\'ir Kahane HY\"D said,...\n\n\"If you want to support us, support us from afar. If you want to come here and missionize, we\'ll have to cut your heads off.\"\n\nAs Rabbi Me\'ir Kahane HY\"D suggested, it is up to you to bless us. We don\'t owe you anything in return.\n\n    áøàùéú éá\n    â åÇàÂáÈøÀëÈä, îÀáÈøÀëÆéêÈ, åÌîÀ÷ÇìÌÆìÀêÈ, àÈàÉø; åÀðÄáÀøÀëåÌ áÀêÈ, ëÌÉì îÄùÑÀôÌÀçÉú äÈàÂãÈîÈä\n\n    Genesis 12\n    3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and him that curseth thee will I curse; and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed.\' \n\n\nI\'ll modify that by suggesting we do owe you gratitude when you discover cures for cancer, energy-saving devices, and cool, new things in space.\n\nFurthermore, Christianity goes against Torah, and most certainly against the 7 Misswoth (commandments) of No\'ah, which include an injunction against avodah zarah (foreign worship) which you are obligated to follow.\n\nJews are simply exempt from chasing after you over these issues, when outside of the Land of Israel.\n\nFurthermore, we Jews have been worrying way too much about what you think of us, and need to worry a lot more about what The Almighty thinks of us.\n\nWe also need to worry more about what we think of ourselves. Seeking external validation for our self-esteem and for our very existence is nothing less than co-dependent*.\n\nIn Rabbi Kahane\'s book Listen World, Listen Jew (Required reading for every Jew!), he teaches that one of the greatest mistakes of the Jewish People has been that of assimilation into to goyshe societies and cultures. This strategy has never worked, and thus should be abandoned, in favor of an authentically Jewish way of life, which he equates with a Torah way of life.\n\nDean, you shouldn\'t care what I think about you either.\n\nBut, if you feel strongly about the words you, then you will encourage Jews to visit, if not come to live in Israel.\n\nWe\'ll do the rest.");
AddReply(407611,"The whole scenario sounds bizarre.","Tali","Israel","03/02/09","A large group of American Jews who don\'t know what the Jerusalem Post is, don\'t care about Israel, don\'t know who Geert Wilders is (yet are attending a Geert Wilders speech), and don\'t own a computer. Well, the last makes them sound Haredi, but the rest of it isn\'t typical of American Haredim as far as I know. What kind of group is this? I\'ve never heard of a particular group that could fit this description.\n\nAlso, when I lived in the US, I never heard Jews commenting on how much money others had in such an uncouth manner. That would\'ve been considered crass.\n\nDean sounds like a fine and sincere person, but the description sounds bizarre to me.");
AddReply(407582,"Dean, find a local Chabad before you judge","Rob","USA","03/02/09","Chabad walks the walk. you either keep shabbot and a kosher home or you don\'t.");
AddReply(407570,"#27 Christian zionist","Hanna","","03/02/09"," How sad when goyim care more about building the Temple than do the Jews...?\nNo, Jews care about building the temple but we have seen too many holy people hearing the call of G-d. The call is usually for killing Jews or infidles. 2000 years of witnessing how much murder, and evil can happen by people who HEAR the call of G-d have made us smarter than other nations. \nWe have seen the Moslems too. they also HEAR G-d constantly telling them that the greatest achivement of humanity is Jihad, killing others and dominating the Earth. ");
AddReply(407535,"The season to be blind","Donna","Australia","03/02/09","Dean, \"from a Christian\" perspective, \n\nRom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. \n\n Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: \n\n Rom 11:27 For this [is] my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. \n\nDean the God of Israel has seasons.");
AddReply(407534,"What the Goyim think...","Ben-Yehudah","K\'far Tapu\'ah","03/02/09","B\"H\n\nDean, you seem like a nice enough.  But, I really couldn\'t care less what goyim think about Jews.\n\nAs Rav Kahane HY\"D more or less said, it\'s up to you to bless us.  We owe you nothing in return.\n\nFurthermore, Christianity is against Torah, and against the 7 misswoth of No\'ah which you obligated to follow.\n\nJews are simply exempt from preaching this outside of Israel.");
AddReply(407530,"Aliyah","Happy in Israel","Israel","03/02/09","I made aliyah many years ago and love it here. It was the best decision I made in my life!! I do not like to leave the country but every few years I have to go to the US to visit my elderly parents, and aside from being with my parents, I am not happy there and can\'t wait to return home, to Israel. It also depresses me when I\'m there in the States to see that most American Jews are not interested in Israel, except for the Orthodox, who usually have a child or other relative living here. Soon though, the non-Orthodox Jews will disappear as Jews.");
AddReply(407522,"Not speaking about me!","Levi ben Yisrael HaLevi","Denham Springs","03/02/09","I can tell you that his letter does not speak for me.  I am coming home and I love the Land HaShem has given us.  I had no choice in where I was born but until I can make Aliyah,  I am Israeli here and now!\n\nI was born in America but I am Israeli by choice.\n\nLevi ben Yisrael HaLevi\n\n(The only Jew in Denham Springs Louisiana)");
AddReply(407488,"Enclaves and Ignorance","Christian Zionist","Lancaster, PA","03/02/09","Is this phenomena similar to Jeroboam\'s sin in which he set up places of worship (and objects) so that the northern tribes would not go to Jerusalem to worship G-d?\n\nAlso, I wanted to point out that 2 to 3 years ago, I contacted local synagogues trying to get them to sponsor Gershom Salomon during his annual visits to America to solicit support for Temple Mount initiatives.  The local Rabbis/synagogue workers treated me poorly because none of them had ever heard of Rabbi Salomon and his call from G-d to build the Temple.  Neither had they heard of any of the Temple Mount initiatives (Rabbi Chaim Richman or Rabbi Salomon\'s).  How sad when goyim care more about building the Temple than do the Jews.");
AddReply(407425,"What to think","James Robertson","Clovis, NM ","03/02/09","B\"H\nWell, here there are a few Jews here mostly Ashkenazim, but there are also a few Chasadim. They felt it was safer to come to America and stay here until the trouble is over in Israel. Many who believe that we are rolling in dough, when they get here find we are not. Most of the Jews that have been here for awhile came as a result of WW ll. \n\nI have just met a man who moved here from Jerusalem just 4 months ago. He is finding that it is rough going here monetarily wise. He says he is home sick, but feels that he must stay here and not go home. I would love to move to Israel and I would even live in Jerusalem and told him I would give him my citizenship to him and let him stay and I would move to Israel. But that isn\'t possible, too bad though. Here, most of the Jews do not want to aliyah and maybe that Dean is right. \n\nMrs. Yonah you are correct when you say that Jews when they move to Israel they grow a backbone. It is only natural. We here are so used to doing what we want and allowing what I call Uncle Sugar keep us that we have lost our sense of being. This is only my opinion and here my opinion doesn\'t carry much weight. \nI did not vote for Obama and as most I believe that it is the wost mistake that the majority did. OH WELL.  \n\n ðùÑ÷åÎáø\nWorship in Purity\nJames");
AddReply(407424,"Movements of people directed by G-D","Judith","Hillsboro","03/02/09","In order for our Loving Heavenly Father to work through Israel in order to bless the human family to fulfill the  very exciting prophecy in Zechariah 8:20-23,  a complete gathering of Faithful Israel is in the process of happening.  This is a cause of rejoicing!   Not all of the Lord\'s people are capable of this.  As in Gidoen\'s army,  the canidates for this special task are being pared down and sifted in very natural ways, by the exhibition of their personal faithfulness.  This is all happening before our very eyes and ears.  What a time to be living in!!!!   Look in scripture for other prrophecy to be fulfilled by others of the Lords people returning later.  THE PLAN goes grandly on. There are no voids.");
AddReply(407409,"Answer to Dean","Zelig W.","Toronto/Yerushalayim","03/02/09","American Jewry is very diverse. The majority are not affiliated with the Jewish community and are Jewish by ancestry, not observance. Tovia, Yishai, Tamar, et al, if most of these American Jews ever heard of them, would be considered aliens and fanatics (I think they are heroes). Even among the American Jews who are affiliated, love and concern for Israel is only high on the agenda of the Orthodox (the smallest of the major Jewish \"denominations\" in the US; the synagogue Dean attended is affiliated with the Conservative movement), who are the source of the bulk of those making aliyah and who donate to Israel and send their children to learn there. \nConsequently, the majority of American Jews have never heard of the Jerusalem Post, let alone Arutz Sheva. They get most of their news about Israel from the US mainstream media, which often portray Israel as the bad guy. In Toronto, where I live most of the year, I am seeing an increasing number of \"letters to the editor\" being written by people who say they are Jewish and who condemn Israel\'s actions and sympathize with the Arabs. \nThe bottom line: I believe that Dean\'s thesis is only a small subset of one of several broader reasons why so many American Jews appear to \"hate\" Israel: they are Jews in name only (therefore they don\'t care about Israel); they are not getting the full story about Israel (therefore they have no, or faulty, knowledge about Israel); and they are seeing many Jews (or other leftist thought leaders) publicly criticizing Israel and supporting its enemies (therefore they are discouraged to support Israel). \nPS: Dean, things aren\'t always what they appear to be. Just because people attend a presentation by a controversial speaker at a synagogue does not mean they are \"religious synagogue goers\". They may not attend synagogue much more often than you do");
AddReply(407404,"Dean is 100% correct","Mike","Vienna, VA","03/02/09","The vast majority of America\'s Jews couldn\'t care less about Israel.  This should not surprise anyone.  What IS surprising is that the Jews who live in Israel show even less of a care for their own survival.  Don\'t believe me?  Why does Ichud Leumi hold 3 Knesset seats instead of 120?  Why are Israeli kapos permitted to demolish Jewish homes and beat Jewish women and children with clubs and then go home to find their own homes undemolished and their own women and children safe and sound? \n\nTell me, dear readers, what is it that makes the Jewish Lemming of the Holy Land tick?  What makes him serve in the IDF and obey the commands of the illegitimate Israeli State when any sane person would have long since rejected the Israeli State and commited to chasing the kapos of the IDF from Jewish land?  Why do the lemmings continue to wave orange ribbons and screaming for Achdut when they should be fighting for Medinat Yehudah?  Why do they spend $20,000 a day on heating windowless houses but cannot find $20 to drill a well or $2,000 to buy a generator?  Why do they endlessly complain about Arab terrorism but have no will to retaliate tenfold for every terrorist attack against them?\n\nCan anyone answer THESE questions?  Anyone?  ");
AddReply(407400,"He\'s right","Me","","03/02/09","I converted to Judaism and feel very strongly that Israel needs our support.  However, when I want to bring it up, I\'m looked at by other Jews as if I am an extremist, or they think I\'m just overzealous because I\'m a \"new Jew\".  \n\nIt\'s been 4 or 5 years since I started practicing Judaism, and I don\'t think I\'m an overzealous newbie.  It is because people turned their backs that the holocaust happened, and it definitely could happen again if we turn our backs on Israel.  \n\nAnd I, too, think that the majority of Jews in my city are too focused on who makes the most money and their status.  If you aren\'t a doctor, lawyer, banker, etc., you aren\'t given the same respect and people will not take the time to get to know you.  And the Rabbis won\'t say a thing about this type of behavior because guess who pays their paycheck - the rich families who control the congregation!  Sad indeed.   ");
AddReply(407397,"A Human Behavior","Daniel","New York","03/02/09","Dear Dean,\n\nFirst of all, thank you for writing to Tamar seeking answers.\n\nHere\'s my opinion:\n\nYou see this phenomenon happen in most areas of human society, not just in the U.S. Jewish community, I hope you realize this.\n\nA person knows they should do something, yet they are afraid to do it.  So they turn it into a negative thing, instead of overcome their fear of doing it.\n\nThis is how children behave when they are picky eaters.  Instead of saying \"I\'m afraid of trying vegetables\" they say \"I HATE vegetables\" or \"Vegetables are GROSS.\"  \n\nSometimes adults don\'t grow up.  They just grow bigger, and more complex.\n\nThe religious Jews in the U.S. know that they are supposed to move to Israel - we say it in our prayers, in our passover seder, in our grace after meals.  Yet they\'re afraid of moving.\n\nIt\'s a lot easier to label moving to Israel as \"wrong\" (or label it as \"only once Moshiach comes\") than it is to overcome the fear of moving there.\n\nAnd the fears are understandable: \nfears of war, of making a living in a country that doesn\'t speak English, of your sons being sent to the army, of leaving your community in America, of elderly parents possibly left behind ch\"v, of leaving your Rabbi, etc. etc. etc.\n\nAnd even those who want to move to Israel sometimes simply can\'t.\n\nG-d knows our fears.  And G-d knows the internal and external challenges that each of these Jews (and Gentiles) faces.  We must always remember that, because it is G-d who places these challenges in front of each person, and it is G-d who ultimately helps us through them.  \n\nI think the best approach is to first build empathy for their situation, for their fears.  Then we can help them address them.\n\nSincerely,\n\nDaniel\n\np.s. I hope you will visit my website for Noahides.  http://www.iHeartNoahides.com");
AddReply(407392,"Wahat the Goyim Think...","Elaine Thompson","Alpena, Michigan USA","03/02/09","What drivel.  This man is not \"righteous,\" in my opinion, and cannot speak for all the \"theys\" he refers to in his letter.\n");
AddReply(407386,"Re: Jews","Yonason ","Brooklyn","03/02/09","A number of points to your comments\n1. Most jews today know very little about their heritage and tradition\n2. Many jews experiences or information about judaism is negative, ie antisemitism, the holocaust etc.\n3. This lack of positive information about their heritage and the negative associations with it cause them to try to distance themselves from judaism and israel\n4. This disassociation with judaism and israel cause them to want to assimilate and to be like the people around them\n\nThere is an expression\nA bagels and lox jew. This is a jew whose only positive assocation with judaism is food Why should he associate with a culture which he associates with negative experiences\nThis is the cause. The solution is to educate him with positive experiences of judasim, not negative ones ");
AddReply(407385,"BTW","Meira WP","Jerusalem IL","03/02/09","It\'s still lashon ha\'ra even if it is true and correct so that is irrelevant to my previous comment.");
AddReply(407384,"Dean is sincere","Meira Warrior Princess","Jerusalem IL","03/02/09","I know him from the Virtual studio and I believe he means well, to spur American Jews to make aliyah but I will say no more and not participate in whether he is right or wrong because it is Lashon Ha\'ra (evil speech) against the Jewish People in a forum that is read by many of our enemies.");
AddReply(407377,"Re: responce to Dean","Mustafa ben Dreemenatad","Silicasea World","03/02/09","Forgive my ignorance sahib (whatever that means) but it seems two issues are involved in the above:\n\n1. What an American goy thinks how USA Jews view erets Yisrael along with her Israeli Jews.\n\nand...\n\n2. The Goyim perception of Jews in general.\n\nEeet is my flawless personable opeenion that seenyor Dean is correct; but, only about a certain percentage of Jews. \n\nYou see, the Jews are the most diverse, creative, imaginative, inventive, optomistic, humorous, attractive and....deadly when allowed....well let us just say that no other people in the world, as a race, has what the Jews have. Not to mention a few negative aspects as well (but what people group doesn\'t have flaws!).\n\nSo, to place all Jews in the same box is impossible. Moreover, it is eempossibeel for a Christian to understand truuue Judaism. \n\nTrue Y\'hudim, faithful to B\'reshiyt 26:5, yearn for the Land and its return to her place as the light unto the Nations (Goyim); and are willing to commit their lives to that goal.\n\nTrue Y\'hudiym (Jews) wish to live in \"THE LAND\" regardless of its present temporal flaws and set-backs, if not only to see, and feel, and inwardly experience the many things written in the TANAKH!\n\nAnd what eees most eeemportante meester Dean, is that true Jews WANT the truth no matter the consequences, pain, loss, or what-eeeever.\n\nWhich is what separates true Jews from Christians....Roman or otherwise.\n\nFor wheeen one really wants de truth and seeks it out, they....how should I put it....oh yes, I know! They stop beeeing Chriistinians.....and conveert to Ehyehudiym, which means EhYeh-taught (see Shemot 3 - the whole chapter in Hebrew). \n\nWhich meeeans my friend, in closing, that when one has an encounter with the Holy ONE of Moshe and Aharon, then (1) erets Yisrael, and (2) her people, and (3) their MIGHTY ONE....by nature these three things similtaneously are first and foremost in one\'s mind....seeking to return....there are no exceptions.\n\nBonjurno, my frieeend meeester Dean");
AddReply(407375,"also","Andrea","Florida","03/02/09","also this economic downturn is bringing many American Jews back to faith in G-d..their financial loss is bringing many back to Torah and mitzvot so I am sure once they realize the importance of the Land as it fits into G-ds plans they will reconsider their apathy and return home");
AddReply(407361,"Here\'s my view","","","03/02/09","To this very noble, righteous gentile, let me first say that one has to know some Jewish history in order to understand these types of Jews. The Jewish people have been exiled for 2000 years throughout the four corners of the globe.  Believe it or not, many countries, whether Europe or middle east had periods of time where they were good to the Jews.  It usually lasted at the most for about 100  to 200 years & then, anti-semitism reared its ugly head to the extreme.  I\'m afraid that this is now even coming to the U.S. as times get difficult here. (Hopefully not) To get back to your comments, you never mentioned what kind of a synagogue it was &that can make all the difference in the world.  If it was not an \"orthodox\" synagogue, I\'m not at all surprised at their ignorance of Israel & their lack of love for their fellow Jews & love of Eretz Yisroel. (Especially liberal Boston) These Jews can only be described as galut Jews.  (Diaspora mentality)  No different than the German Jews  pre WWII.  Many were so far removed from their heritage that they saw to only intermarry or just convert to Christianity to be part of the crowd & to get ahead.   When we were slaves for over 200 years in Egypt, most of the Jews had sunk to the 49th level of impurity just by living in the midst of the depravity of Egypt & so 80% of them did not  want ro leave Egypt  and died in the plague of darkness together with the Egyptians. \nThese people you met  are similar to what I described  as life has been  good to them here in this land, which is called a \"medina shel chesed\" (a benevolent country) and as they really have no knowledge of their heritage,Torah, history or true knowledge of Judaism, all this is almost as foreign to them  as it is to the non-Jews.  The basis of Jewish worship here was started (German Jews) by the Reform movement (which is a mockery & really so far removed from Torah that it cannot be called Juudaism) & therefore, had a tremendous impact on Jews in America.  In fact, after the horrific holocaust, those great Jewish sages & leaders who survived were fearful of coming to the U.S., knowing the lack of Jewish learning & Torah in the U.S.   Only after they came, did they bring Judaism here & it became a big Torah learning center . To Jews who have not assimilated, all this is no surprise. We hope that this  era before our redemption  they will return to their roots & we know that G-D Alone runs this world & know He has his plans & will somehow see to it that they will return.  For this is the final & ultimate redemption for the children of Israel & for all humanity.  Hoping this helped explain a little.\n");
AddReply(407360,"JEWISH COUNTRY CLUB","CB","USA","03/02/09","A reform student rabbi told me one time that the temple mount is a relic and that reform judism was not interested in it. The redemption is many generations away. Let me not forget the sanhedrin, that was described as some radical rabbis.\n\nHere is a fund raiser that was tried a raffle for member ship, At 100 dollars a ticket after a certin number of tickets were sold the drawing takes place. \n\nFrom the bema israel is not mentioned for the most part. There seems to be a lack of interest in israel. There is the occasional fund raiser for some cause in israel.\n\nThese observations are based on two different reform movement congerations over a period of a total of 2 years. (attending friday night service only) My ipression is that reform judism is anything they want to make it. An exclusive club for jews is my impression.\n\nI tried to talk to several about israel, they did not have a clue about current events in israel.\n\nBEST WISHES (BE SAFE)\nCB \n\n \n\n");
AddReply(407359,"Dean","Jim Hise","Booneville, AR","03/02/09","Dear Tamar Yonah,\nI just read your article concerning the Goyim and the question of why the Jews in America  do not seem concerned about  Israel. And no I am not annoyed with the term Goyim, Goy.  I used the term Pagan as in the Torah once in a posting and the returning flack was heavy, Smile.  \nI believe Dean said he could not believe the  American Jews didn’t care for their home [Israel]\nWhat he should understand is most of the American Jews are American citizens.  This is their country, not Israel.  Much as I am a descendant of German forefathers.   Most of us descendants do not believe in G-d and would rather not be pointed in His direction.  Is Dean concerned with his forefathers home?\nIt is much easier to live without God in one’s life than with Him in it.  Most will shy or run away from G-d.  He makes life much more difficult to live and harder to want everything to be nice and peachy.  I am not a Jew, am not righteous  however am a follower of Christ and try my best to follow God’s precepts.  \nA question for you.  Why would an American Jew want to give up a good life for a life of strife and constant fear?  Being labeled Jew doesn’t make one a believer in God , just as being labeled a Christian make one a true follower of Jesus and God’s precepts through Him.  One large fact, doesn’t  matter whether you believe it or not.  God is and He will not be put into any small definition.  He will not allow Himself  to be regulated to anyone’s  small box, if you will.  \nI am 67 years old and have been a seeker of truth for most of my adult life due to the way I was raised and the beliefs I was taught.  There has always been the questioning, is this true; is this, the unbridled, untied and open word of the Creator.  \nWhy do the Jewish, the Christian teachings make it so difficult to know God?  Why do those who proclaim to be righteous and so holy always put God so far away from Human/Woman that he/she cannot reach God on a face to face reality.  The Jew says to the Christian, You’re wrong, the Christian says to the Jew, you were right until you walked away from God’s true teachings.  Who is right?  The Jew says to the Christian, We have the truth because we have handwritten the word and handed it down generation to generation.  We also have the Oral Laws which have been passed down generation to generation. We are the Chosen ones and we can prove it.  The Christian says to the Jew, Yeah, you had it. However- you lost it when you crucified Jesus the Son of God.   Both miss the truth, Both. \nI ask you, which would you rather serve, a God who is so far from you personally that you can only meet with Him through a series of Priesthood/Rabbis etc..  Is this G-d so fearful of Human/Woman that He will not reveal himself to the individual?  Or is He inept?  Or is He a loving God, One who created all and loves His creation Human/Woman and only wants to talk to them, one on one, face to face.  Does He not know your every thought?  Does He not know your every desire? Does He not have an answer to any question you may or want to ask?  \nWe are living in a time, man has never seen before in this period from the flood.  The world is at stake today, both the Jew and the Christian are waiting for the Messiah, the Jew for the first coming, and the Christian the second coming.  Both have so twisted the original message it hardly resembles God’s original purpose.  \nThe more you study the ancient writings that are available today, and the newer messages written in these modern times, the more you want to pull out your hair and scream.  What is the real message from God and just what does He want of Me?  Is His intent to put and keep me at a far distance from Him that I cannot truly know Him and His Love and Power?  \nHere is another:  Why because of the first Human am I considered to be born into Sin?  How can you deal with the idea of a Child, baby if you will, neonate, being a sinner.  What did Human do that was so bad that God will not let him close?  Give up this and that, don’t do this and that, You must be humbled before God or you will be outcast.  \nTo Dean, You must get back to the basis.  You must study God’s Word, You must read all that you can that’s been written about and by God’s people.  You must go further than you ever have to search out just what God wants.  \nMan, either Jew, Gentile, or other, has never followed God to the letter.  Most likely never will.  God says-man changes.  God does-man denies.  God says “I Am that I Am”. Man says “Really?’ Me too.  God says, “I will be your protector and Leader, just walk with me daily.”  Man says “OK, just take a seat in this little room, I will let you know if & when I need You.  Talk to my priest. “\nCynical,?  I suppose.  To me God is my All, He is my ‘I Am that I Am’, however I do not limit Him nor do I put Him into a room only to take Him out when I think I NEED HIM.\nMy heart breaks when I think how this Creator, so loves His Creation, He again and again allows man to put Him away, only taking Him out when he needs Him in a time of Crisis.  When all is going good and good times are upon Human/Woman, it is always, Look at what I have done.  When things go to ruin, Man finds someone to blame and says, God, Why did you let this happen to me?  You could have taken care of it, if only You cared enough.  Or as the Song goes, says, “God must be too busy”. \nAnd then again,  Maybe God just says, Hey, you idiot, you put me in this little room, I could not hear or see what you needed.  Smile.  You Think?  \nBe you Jewish or as Dean puts it, a Christian Zionist [Goyim] with great love for Israel and all that it represents; may be what God is saying is, Hey, you idiot, take me out of this box, remove from Me the shackles you have placed on Me and just see what I can and will do for you.  Do not remove the shackles and I will break them and watch out, you will not like what you see.  {I believe it will be the latter}\nTo Dean, quit being spiritual, you become pious.   People feel the Pious, not the Spiritual.  To Tamar, if I may, Sorry for the long dissertation, though felt Dean needs to Look at the question, “What Do You Want [of me]?”\nShalom [May God Bless and Keep you is my ardent Prayer]\n");
AddReply(407355,"I don\'t think he is right or wrong","Andrea","St Pete","03/02/09","I really couldn\'t comment about whether the author of the letter is right or wrong but I have observed jewish america and know they are good people who enjoy being americans, who are very patriotic and loyal citizens. They don\'t hate Israel but just believe that the govt over there is committing national suicide and feel going there isn\'t such a good idea......they really haven\'t ever had to exercise any faith because of the blessing on them so their spiritual antennae are not tuned to the holiness frequency");
AddReply(407354,"Dean is nearly %100 correct.","Michael","Galut","03/02/09","Look, the Jewish population in Galut (the exile/diaspora) is mostly assimilated and assimilating. There are only a few good locations. Toronto, New York, Montreal, and a few other places have some good Jewish communities.\n\nDean, to console you I must state: most of the Jewish communities in Galut will slowly disappear. And, Jewish communities in Israel will flourish physically and spiritually like never before in history.\n\nPerhaps you can come visit Israel one day. If you do, you might want to go during the holiday of Sukkot. Sukkot is a holiday that included non-Jews within its service in the Beit HaMikdash (the temple). Zechariah speaks about how eventually non-Jewish countries from all over the world will send representatives to the Beit HaMikdash for Sukkot. I assume that other non-Jews from around the world would also come.\n\nHowever, it may be hard for someone who is non-jewish to find a good touring program. For Jews their are birthright and Aish trips, among many other short and long-term programs...");
AddReply(407352,"Different Jews, Different opinions","Devorah","Philadelphia, PA US","03/02/09","The synagogue you described doesn\'t sound like the synagogues in my neighborhood.   We get at least hundreds, and sometimes a thousand or more people out at rallies or fundraisers for Israel.  \nJust as there are people who are nominally Christian who don\'t care much about developing their characters or involving themselves in volunteer work, there are a range of levels of involvement & commitment amongst Jewish people.  There are also a wide range of income levels, including an unfortunately large segment at or below the poverty line.  Gentiles may only notice the wealthiest Jewish people, and then resent them for having money.\nJewish people tend to be far above average in generosity to charities, including Israel and other Jewish causes, but including many secular concerns as well.  \nYou may want to reflect on how you form opinions about millions of people on the basis of a single visit to one house of worship.  Do you think you would be full of hateful wisecracks about Christians if you went to one church where people behaved in a way you didn\'t like, or where they didn\'t share your political opinions?\nDean, I would like to encourage you to gather more information before you reach conclusions.  If you want to meet more Jewish people who aren\'t affluent, go to a synagogue in a neighborhood that isn\'t affluent; there are plenty.  \nDean, Jewish learning (and I believe Christian teachings would say the same) encourages the development of a \"good eye\" - the ability to recognize and see good in others. Jewish teaching also warns us that if we perceive a spiritual message, we need to discriminate between a message from the good forces and the bad forces.\n Before you even try to find other Jewish people - or any other kind of people- more to your liking, I recommend you do some work on yourself, aided by  consultation with a trusted teacher or clergy person.  \nAlso, Dean, I want to commend you for your willingness to devote your energy to your spiritual quest, your willingness to begin reaching out to people with a background different than your own, and to tell you that many Jewish people (including myself) appreciate the support of Christian Zionists for Israel.\n");
AddReply(407351,"\'righteous goyim\'","Malka","upstate NY","03/02/09","First, I despise the term \"Christian Zionist.\" Anyone who wants Israel to exist and loves the country is a Zionist. Prefacing it with \"Christian\" implies that the person wants a Christian Zion.\n\nA Christian\'s god is not the G-d of Israel.\n\nDean paints all American Jews with a pretty darn wide brush. Yes, SOME American Jews aren\'t interested in Israel.\n\nCertainly not all. A lot of what he\'s saying about these uncaring, uninvoled American Jews sounds like typical stereotypes.\n\nThere are a lot of reasons people don\'t make aliyah. Some fear for their safety; some don\'t have the financial ability; some on religious grounds; others never really gave it much consideration...it\'s too simplistic to chalk it all up to people being happy in their comfort zone and unwilling to move.\n\nTamar, you were correct to put \"righteous goyim\' in quotes. There\'s a modicum of truth to what Dean says, but frankly, some of it sounds racist.\n\nI\'m sorry but that\'s the way I feel.\n\nBecome a Noachide dean, then we\'ll talk.");
AddReply(407350,"What the Goyim Think....","Elaine Thompson","Alpena, MI USA","03/02/09","Not worth responding to.  Typically a know-nothing (sorry) far-righter who personally hears from God, but really knows little about the subject..");
AddReply(407348,"HMMMM?? ","","Canada","03/02/09","No matter how you look at it whether in Israel or America, people from all religions think secular. That includes the Goyim. It is difficult to understand why this happens at social events of this nature, but part of the problem in todays world is that people have a hidden criteria on how they judge other people and decline to engage in hospitality if one doesn\'t have a check on their list. \n\nChances are Dean was meeting the socialites of the synagogue who were the largest financial contributors who built it and they assume everyone should pay homage to them. However there have been many situations in which Israeli\'s have arrived on a \"working\" or \"visitors\" visa and in their endeavors have \"ripped off\" other Jews in America who hired them. In fact this list of scams has taken on a life of its own. The consequence is that the Israeli reputation has been seriously damaged. Further when Israeli\'s elect leaders who are corrupt and continuously soliciting money from American Jews, the respect for Israel goes down the tubes. Holy Land where?\n\nIn conclusion the disinterest stems from all the aforementioned. However there is a light flickering and we suggest you all visit biblediscovered.com ; buy  yourself a Tanakh because you\'ll need it to reference when you take an ancient journey to the Holy Land on this web site.    ");
AddReply(407346,"wilders\' wig","shikse","netherlands","03/02/09","Most of Geert Wilders\'audience has no idea what or who they are following really - that\'s typical. ");
AddReply(407344,"some people know,,","yvonne","cary","03/02/09","what *THE* gyoim think from one person\'s expression of thoughts on one occasion. Even more people *know* what *THE* jews are thinking and surprisingly many know EXACTLY what G-d is thinking. As for me, most of the time I barely know what I am thinking. There are so many talented people in the world! I am not one of them. Now, since I also do not know what Tamar was thinking when she put this post up, I am asking her: *Tamar, what were you thinking*????");
AddReply(407339,"Dean is right","Eric","USA","03/02/09","Dean is right as far as he takes his observations. That is, Jews in America are comfortable here, they aren\'t under persecution, and they can make lots of money. These 3 reasons Dean brought out well, and these are some of the main reasons why Jews in America despise or feel uncomfortable about Israel. And these are the kind of Jews that should NEVER make aliyah. They would just as easily leave when the times get bad, and they\'re going to get bad. In fact, there is only one kind of Jew that ought to make aliyah. That would be the lovers-of-Hashem kind of Jew. All others should not make aliyah. They would harm the cause of G-d more than  help it. The last thing G-d wants or needs in Israel are a bunch of spoiled Jews who cannot comprehend the necessity of all-out war against their enemies. A Jew who voted for Obama is not the kind of Jew that would be good for Israel. Only the fools and the outright evil people voted for Obama. Obama will not be good for Isreal and he won\'t be good for America. But Jews, being the complete political morons that they are, mostly voted for him. And there is a close connection between what politics one holds to and how one believes about G-d. There is commonality here.");
AddReply(407333,"I think he\'s wrong about most, right about a few","Yitzi","USA","03/02/09","Most Jews who don\'t support Israel, it\'s simply because they can\'t be bothered to look outside their own vicinity.  It\'s a flaw shared by members of nearly all subgroups of humanity.\nA few agree with Satmer or similar.\nA few think there\'s no point in supporting Israel so long as its own government is so self-destructive.\nA few do support Israel, but voted for Obama anyway (the explanation I heard from one such person, and I decided to follow his lead, is that both candidates would likely push the \"peace process\", but only McCain could effectively be considered a friend while doing so.)\nAnd some probably do feel uncomfortable about Israel because it makes them feel guilty.  But I would say the people he met were simply your standard can\'t-see-what-doesn\'t-affect-them-here-and-now human beings.");
AddReply(407314,"Just a simple Jew.","Yaakov","Rather not say","03/02/09","As painfull as it sounds he may be correct.  I\'ve have Rabbi\'s tell my chavruta that he doesn\'t need to learn hebrew, its over rated. And I am in the midst of filing for Aliyah as a posibility and am have quite a time getting someone to write a letter as a recommendation. I\'ve heard Rabbi\'s hear say we have to take care of our selve here.. let Israel take of herself. Thats a parapharase. I don\'t know what the answer is other than offering american jews a SECURE land with out rockets fired at them and a promise not to take away their home to give to some one who didn\'t work for it. I case you didn\'t get it  that was a reference to Gush..");

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