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AddReply(371075,"Feiglin in Toronto","Paul S.","Toronto, Canada","12/13/08","Moshe Feiglin spoke at a Toronto synagogue a few months ago and I was there.  Later I had the rare opportunity to meet him.  I found him to be an able speaker and he had a strong grasp on reality, a refreshing change from the leftist spin we get in our media here.  Is he prime ministerial material?  Perhaps, but perhaps not.  At the very least though, he is an antidote to the self-loathing most Jews have about themselves and their ethnic identity.  While I\'m here, I want to say that delving deeper into faith matters and into halachic ritualizations that serve only to isolate oneself from the outside world may keep assimilation away but that is not ethnic pride.  Here in Toronto, the most ethnically diverse city in the world (according to our mayor), ethnic communities show their pride outwardly.  They speak their languages out in the open, in loud voices if necessary, they eat their own culture\'s food and dress in their own fashion and don\'t care who sees or hears.  Most of all, they want to share their cultures with anyone who gives them a fair shake.  Our people may dress the part, but we speak Yiddish and Hebrew in quiet tones, and eat our kosher food surreptitiously and certainly do not make much of an effort to share ourselves with outsiders (what if the goyim don\'t like it?).  This is not pride, it is isolation.\nLastly, please everyone who contributes talkbacks, please try to keep the use of foreign terms to a minimum, and if you must use them, please provide a translation for those of us linguistically challenged.  Thank you.\nhalachic=living in accordance to strict interpretation of Jewish law.  Comes from halacha, \"the way\", a collective term for all Jewish observance both in synagogue and outside.\ngoyim=a collective term for all non-Jews in the world, though in practice it refers to Christian Europeans for the most part.  Comes from the biblical term \"goy\", often translated as \"nation\", thus \"goyim\"=the nations i.e. any nations other than our own.  Whether the term is pejorative or not is up to the individual speaker.");
AddReply(370313,"Daniel Kyoto","Velvel","silver spring","12/10/08","You say that Feiglin \"worships the IDF\"    This is hogwash.   Feiglin was one of the few sane voices calling for soldiers to DISOBEY orders of expulsion.   That is the farthest thing from worshipping the IDF.    It is the establishment and mamlachti so-called \"religious nationalist\" parties that do that.   Only, the establishment worships it as an Arab-coddling, Jew-beating army.  The mamlachti worships it as anything the establishment turns it into with their \'great wisdom\' and \'statemanship\' that mamlachtim defer to.   And by syllogism, they must as well worship it as an Arab-coddling, terrorist-protecting, Jew-beating army.");
AddReply(370309,"Zev, if you think BIBI is likud, then it shows you are not rightwing","Velvel","silver spring","12/10/08","You yourself are not Likud.  If you think Feiglin \"destroyed\" Likud, then what you really mean to say is, he counteracted the leftist infiltration to Likud, which (under Bibi\'s leadership) changed it from historically a nationalist party to a do-nothing centrist/leftist establishment party similar to labor and kadima.   So it shows that you support the leftist infiltration and disagree with the actual values in the Likud platform, just like Bibi and all the other phonies.  It is Feiglin that upholds Likud principles.   If he\'s not Likud, no one is.");
AddReply(370184,"PS: Daniel","Steve","Fla.","12/10/08","You say Moshe Feiglin is abysmally uneducated about international affairs.  He is not the kind of person you would like to run Israel, because he\'s too uneducated and narrow.\n\nI say, give Moshe Feiglin a seat in the Knesset.  Why is Netanyahu trying to prevent this?  Let Feiglin grow in experience, breath of knowledge and education.  \n\nMr. Netanyahu obviously feels threatened by a man of principle and conviction.  Netanyahu is trying to stifle Feiglin\'s growth.  \n\nBenjamin Netanyahu appears petty and small-minded in my opinion.  He is not looking out for the welfare of his people in my view..");
AddReply(370164,"Daniel #9","Steve","Fla.","12/10/08","You make some good points.  Breadth of knowledge and diplomatic skills are important.  It seems to me however, more important is retaining Jewish land in the hands of the Jews; all of it or what is left of it post Ariel Sharon. \n\nFeiglin seems to be one of few leading this effort.  Mr. Netanyahu is a skilled diplomat. He is eager to negotiate with Israel\'s enemies.  \n\nWhat is there to negotiate?");
AddReply(369737,"my take","Daniel","Kyoto","12/09/08","Let me give you my take on Moshe Feiglin.\nI think in many ways he\'s the best politician in Israel now. However, he is abysmally uneducated about international affairs, has made idiotic comments about China and Japan, and worships the IDF.\nMaybe Hashem will give him the siyata dishmaya not to do anything trully moronic, but this is not the kind of person I would like running Israel, because he\'s too uneducated and narrow. I have seen no evidence he can operate vis-a-vis foreign diplomats, and plenty of evidence to the contrary.\nTherefore, I\'m not going to give up dreaming of Medinat Yehuda any time soon.");
AddReply(369557,"Bibi","Zvi","Yerushalayim","12/08/08","If you think Bibi is going to be a better alternative than Livni, take another look. They are of the same mold, pledging Land for War (or \"Peace,\" as they see it). The Mashiach is the only one who can save this catastrophic situation, and he is coming soon.");
AddReply(369465,"Israel lover","A Jewish Zionist","Cape Town","12/08/08","I alway supported BIBI.\nBut learning what he has done, is he any better than Olmert?\nkeep him out of the Knesset.\nBring in Feiglin as the leader of world Jewry.\n\nNo gving in to world pressure.\nDo not allow any Muslims into the Jewish State. Only those who will swear loyalty to the Israeli flag, swear on the Torah and Koran to be loyal and sing Hatika.\nThey must serve in the IDF.\n\nLet them prove their loyalty to the Jewish State.\n\nJerusalem. Samari, and Judea  must remain Jewish.\n\nBring back Kach into the Knesset.\n\nThrow out traitors like Livni, Barak and Olmert.\nBARUCH HASHEM AM YISROEL CHAI");
AddReply(369415,"Boy, that was incoherent.","sk","USA","12/08/08","So, Bibi is just another \"Israeli\" -- a cog in the Bolshevik machine -- and therefore one should vote for Likud, whose one guaranteed MK (and PM, if successful) will be Bibi.\n\nVoting for Feiglin in primaries but some \"religious\" party in the election will just show that the Feiglin supporters are fakes when it really counts, and do not represent real electoral support.  That will mean even less support for the Feiglinites in the Likud.\n\nDavid sez:\n\n\"Their official entrance into formal leadership of the Jewish people will finally put an end to calls for the replacement of the State of Israel by an alternative “Medinat Yehuda.”\"\n\nThat\'s a good thing?  Anyway, this is not the purpose of Medinat Yehuda, at least according to Vienna Mike.  Medinat Yehuda is not supposed to REPLACE Medinat Israel, but to COMPLEMENT it by ruling the lands that Medinat Israel wants to give to Bnei Amalek (Muslims).\n\n\"They will be living proof that it is possible to utilize the existing framework of the State of Israel within the boundaries of Kedusha...\"\n\nYes, but how do we get from here to there?  If Feiglin got in as PM, the proof would exist, but Feiglin is not going to get in as PM.  Sorry.\n\nFINALLY--and here is something you guys just don\'t understand--Feiglin inherently threatens many Israeli citizens in a way that Medinat Yehuda would not.  You see, Feiglin supports religious coercion (where practical), and that sends his opponents into a frenzy.  If he would lead a Medinat Yehuda that consisted of Judea, Samaria, Gaza, he would simply give an alternative.  People could choose.  If the Left wanted to give away part of Jerusalem, it could be to Medinat Yehuda.  Who WOULDN\'T prefer that?\n\nYou see, taking over the Israeli state is inherently threatening in a way that creating a second state would not be.  Yes, there would be bloodshed, but there would be some bloodshed if Feiglin ever got near to his present goal.  And there will CERTAINLY be far more bloodshed if the Muslims gained control of this land for good.");
AddReply(369404,"Zu Artzenu does not appear on the recommended list. Why?","Michelle","Vancouver","12/08/08","The list includes:  Moshe Feiglin, Sagiv Asulin, Gilad Ardan, Benny Begin, Gila Gamliel, Moshe Kachlon, Osnat Mark, Gidon Sa\'ar, Ruby Rivlin.  \n\nPlus any three of the following:  Efraim Even, Yuli Edelstein, Miriam Erez, Daniel Benlulu, Eli Gabbai, Zeev Jabotinsky, Tzippy Chotobeli, Ehud Yatom, Michael Kafri, Moshe Moskal, David Menna,  Bilhah Nissenson, Leah Ness, Nazia Abdallah, Nurit Koren, Michael Kleiner, Ayub Kara, Michael Ratzon, Zalman Shoval, Etti Talmi - \n\nOLIM LIST: Shmuel Sackett, Asya Entov \n\nDISTRICT VOTING:  Boatz Haetzni (Yesha), Kety Shitrit (Jerusalem), Emanuel Vizer(TV), Alon Siso (Haifa, Krayot), Danny Danon (Coastal), Yariv Levin (Shfela).\n\nI got this list from Likud\'s Feiglin\'s page\n http://www.mflikud.com/print.htm \n\nSo, why isn\'t Zu Artzenu listed there?");
AddReply(369403,"To \"FAD\"","sk","USA","12/08/08","Dude, you have been shilling for Bibi (as Fady, Egypt) for years.  If you want to make a point, please DO NOT use ALL CAPS, and please learn to write in paragraphs.  Thanks.");
AddReply(369162,"COMMENT","FAD","","12/08/08","WITH ALL DUE RESPECT I THINK THAT YOU ARE THE TALKING THE HALF OF THE FACTS FIRST BIBI SAID TO USE THE IRON FIST AGAINST THE OUTLAWS IN A SIGNAL TO WHAT HAPPANED IN HEBRON BEFORE IT WHEN THE SETTLERS WAS THROWING THE ROCKS ON THE IDF THESE RIOTS SHOULDNT HAVE HAPPANED IT IS AGAINST THE LAW AND THOSE WHO HAVE DONE THIS SHOULDNT BE ABOVE THE LAW SO BIBI IS RIGHT IN THIS CASE ALSO ARYAH ELDAD CONDEMNED THIS ALSO DURING THE EXPULSION BIBI HAS CALLED FOR A PEACEFUL SOLUTION TO THE DISPUTE AND WAS AGAINST THE VIOLENCE LOOK I BELIEVE THAT THE HOME IS FOR THE JEWS BUT LAW IS LAW AND SHOULD BE RESPECTED IF ANYBODY IS AGAINST HE HAS THE KNESSET IT IS THE DEMOCRATIC WAY TO EXPRESS OPINION NOT THROUGH RIOTS AND THROWING ROCKS IF WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT BIBI MADE WHEN HE WAS PM HE DIVIDED HEBRON BECAUSE HE INHERITED THIS AGREEMENT FROM PERES ALSO BECAUSE HE FOUND THAT AN INTIFADA IS ABOUT TO EXPLODE AFTER HE HAS OPENED THE WESTERN WALL OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT SO HE HAS MADE THAT IN ORDER TO STOP ANY INTIFADA BUT ON THE OTHER HAND IF WE TALKED ABOUT FEIGLIN WE WILL FING THTA HE IS RIGHT ABOUT SOME ISSUES ABOUT THE LAND BUT HE HAS MANY PROBLEMS FIRST HE COULDNT BE A LEADER HE HAS ONLY 7000 IN THE LIKUD HE HAS NO EXPERIENCE IN MANY FEILDS HE CAN BE A GOOD EDUCATION OR RELIGIOUS MINISTER BUT A PRIME MINISTER NO HE ALSO HAS MANY PERSONAL PROBLEMS I THINK HE IS OPPERTUNIST BECAUSE HE DIDNT PROVE HIMSELF IN OTHER PARTY LIKE THE NATIONAL UNION THEN TRIED TO JOIN THE LIKUD BUT HE FORCED HIMSELF ON THE LIKUD AND TRYING TO LEAD IT WITH 7000 ONLY AND CONSIDER HIMSELF NO 2 IN THE PARTY AND LAUNCHS BRUTAL ATTACKS AGAINST BIBI SUCH AS WHEN HE SAID THAT BIBI IS ANTI SEMITIC AND HAS ANTI SEMITIC GENE AND IS LEFTIST RACIST ASHKANZI ALL THESE ATTACKS IS SUITABLE FOR PERSON CONSIDERS HIMSELF A LEADER I BELIEVE HE SHOULD LEFT THE LIKUD AND JOIN ANY OTHER PARTY AND WHEN GAIN EXPERIENCE AND PROVE HIMSELF HE CAN JOIN LIKUD NOT WHAT HE HAS MADE FROM THE FIRST TIME HE ENTERED POLITICS AND RAN FOR LIKUD LEADERSHIP OF COURSE HE FAILED");
AddReply(369145,"Fleiglin isn\'t a leader of anything","Zev","Ramot","12/08/08","Besides wasting millions of dollars in donations on his ego, he\'s a proven failure; he\'s destroyed the Likud as unified party and effective opposition; and he\'s undermined the grassroots movement of true activists by claiming only a political solution from within the system will work. A little puppy can make a lot of noise but he has no bite. Let him start his own party if he wants - why bring down the Likud and what little political right that there is?");
AddReply(369136,"Please follow this advice!","Michael","Galut","12/08/08","That is what I will do in a few years, when I will be able to make aliyah, according to the well-thought out plans that I am currently carrying out.\n\nAlso, I think that everybody should know that they can join Likud, vote for Feiglin and the other members of Manhigut Yehudit, in order to make them higher up on the list, and then they can vote for another party like the new religious party. I\'m pretty sure that this is possible.\n\nDon\'t be lazy and not join Likud and not vote for Feiglin because of the excuse that you\'re not going to be voting for Likud. You can do both.\n\nDavid Wilder, correct me if I\'m wrong. In fact, if there is a major error in this reasoning, you can delete this comment if you want.");

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