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AddReply(357710,"All distinctions are \"debunkable\", Larry","Mike","Vienna, VA","11/04/08","In the end, it is possible to argue that people are the same all over.  We all have red blood and DNA, surely that is enough to unite?  Except it is NOT.\n\nThe question you ought to ask yourself is not whether the distinction between the Israeli enemy and the Jewish People is somehow \"artificial\" but whether it is USEFUL.  The first step to self-liberation is self-definition.  There are, in the end, only two useful questions:\n\n1) Who are you? \n2) What do you want?\n\nAnswer these two questions completely and you have created a new identity.  Answer them incorrectly and you\'re dead.");
AddReply(357284,"none","yechielshlipshon","joelton, tennessee","11/04/08","I was raised to understand that the only thing we have in comon, beside the Torah,is arguing, Instead of continued acrminun, what would happen if all of us try to work together to build the strong Yeshev He wants? Can we? If we shall build, they would all come.");
AddReply(356804,"Larry, since when have you taken anything I said seriously?","sk","USA","11/02/08","How many times have I dissected your TBs, showing your mistakes, your sloppy reading, and your intellectual laziness?  After all this time, though, you demonstrate, by your example, why Israelis are in such sad shape, as you still can\'t understand anything I say.\n\nSo, I\'ll just direct you to E. E. Schattchneider\'s book The SemiSovereign People.\n\nhttp://www.amazon.com/Semisovereign-People-Realists-Democracy-America/dp/0030133661/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225650610&sr=8-1\n\n\n");
AddReply(356764,"Dear David Wilder","Michelle","Vancouver","11/02/08","The other day I read an item that made my eyes open wide in amazement:\n\n\"American Jews have gobbled up $1 billion worth of Israeli bonds in this year\'s annual campaign despite the financial crisis that has gripped the United States, Bonds official Yehoshua Matza said Friday morning. He added that the buyers are more interested in helping Israel than they are in making money on the bonds, which offer a lower interest rate than available in American bonds.\"\n\nhttp://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/155067\n\nIf this government, concerned as it is with the Israeli brand, were to be outed as the oppressor of Jews, as the instigator of police violence against Jews, as the persecutor of nationalist Jews that it really is, it would help to mitigate the intensity of this government-against-Jews war.\n\nI urge nationalist leaders to send a delegation to US synagogues, congressmen, influential media, big Jewish donors, complete with visual evidence, of this government war against the Jews.\n\nTell donors that their money is being used to finance government-instigated police pogroms.  That it is used to jail innocent children.  That it is used to fund a campaign to demonize decent Jews.\n\nThis government cares about money and about its image abroad.  Use this to your advantage!\n");
AddReply(356577,"The husk of my heart.","Francesco Sinibaldi","Milano","11/01/08","In the heaven,\nnear a beautiful\nclapping, I\nhear a voice:\na spirit appears\nin the shade\nof a Chapel\nand everything\nshines on the\nside of your\ndarkness. \n\nFrancesco Sinibaldi");
AddReply(356567,"SK/Mike","Larry","","11/01/08","It is increasingly hard for me to take anything either of you say seriously. Mike is making Aliyah after the \'rebels\' in massive violent action establish Medinat Yehudah, and SK will deign to visit Israel after Tsvi Fishman recants or something. \n\nThe clear and exaggerated distinction between \'Israelis\' and \'Jews\' is debunkable. There are strong Israelis and weak Israelis, super-Orthodox Israelis (see Tsvi\'s Torah faithful) and middling religious, non-religious and anti-religious Israelis. There are Jewish Israelis and non-Jewish Israelis - and, yes, there is a problem with this fact to the extent that large numbers of Arabs will never be loyal to a Jewish state or State of the Jews. That will play out over time.\n\nThe rest of the simplifications are absurd.");
AddReply(356439,"But!","les","Ayr","10/31/08","What about the crooked Judges?");
AddReply(356375,"Daniel, do you really have this much contempt for the Arabs?","Mike","Vienna, VA","10/31/08","Leaving aside the fact that Moslems are Satan-worshipping Bnei Amalek commanded to exterminate you, do you really have so much contempt for them that you believe they will simply sell out if you offer them a big enough bribe?  Would you take \"compensation\" from Arabs to give up your home in Tapuach?  \n\nYes, some Moslems are corrupt and spineless enough to take Jewish bribes.  But many are not.  Hamas is wildly popular and Hamas is winning because Hamas reflects the desires and aspirations of the average Holy Land Arab.\n\nStop being naive.  This is a religious war where the only path to peace lies through [defeat].  the only question before us is whicn nation dies and which lives.");
AddReply(356366,"avee still doesn\'t get it","sk","USA","10/31/08","avee, dear, many typical Israelis, who see themselves as Jewish but who are not observant--and who thus are not \"Israelis\" in Mike\'s sense of the term, do not want your version of a Jewish state.  That is why partition makes sense.  You will never force these guys to accept your Jewish state.  Give up this fantasy.  However, creating a Medinat Yehudah offers a choice, and it gets rid of most of the Muslims, which these Israeli Halachic Jews would like.\n\nOh, and if Medinat Israel ever became a \"Jewish state\" (which will not happen) it will be run by the same corrupt \"rabbis\" who are now in bed with Honest Ilmert.\n\nThis all seems so obvious to me that I don\'t see why others don\'t get it.");
AddReply(356363,"Mr. Pinner, you miss the point!","sk","USA","10/31/08","Even if the Muslims would leave if the Israeli and Fakestinian elites stayed out of it, neither set of elites WANTS the Muslims to leave.  Therefore, they will NOT stay out of it.  The Israeli elites have NEVER wanted to Muslims to leave!  This is a fact so clear that it just cannot be disputed.");
AddReply(356269,"Mr. Wilder, I commend you","avee","jerusalem","10/31/08","and all the other jewish families that put up with this in hebron.  it is my hope that  a true jewish government will arise in the next election. i won\'t hold my breath, but i pray for this.");
AddReply(356180,"Actually, Vienna Mike, the lesson is:","Daniel Pinner","Kfar Tapuach","10/31/08","Allow Jews to deal directly with Arabs, without corrupt politicians (neither theirs nor ours) getting in the way. That way, we will be able to achieve understanding with the Arabs (most of them, at least), buy them out, and convince them to leave Israel for friendlier climes. Most Arabs in Israel would leave, if only two conditions could be met: first, that they are given adequate compensation; and second, that corrupt leaders on both sides stop using them as cannon-fodder in their vicious war against Jews.");
AddReply(356063,"And the lesson is...","Mike","Vienna, VA","10/30/08","...Avodah Ivri!  Why do foolish Jews in the Holy Land give parnassah to any Moslem in any way?  The Jews should have taken possession immediately and done the renovations themselves.  But, of course, this is not what suburbanites do.  Setters build.  Suburbanites hire contractors.");

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