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AddReply(342868,"Enlighten Us","YMedad","Shiloh","09/14/08","This is a new one for me: Mike - Sabak murder of R. Baruch Kahane (z\"l).  Particulars please?\n\n");
AddReply(342407,"And one more thing, Larry","Mike","Vienna, VA","09/12/08","A Jew is a Jew if he is born of a halachically Jewish mother or underwent a halachically valid conversion.  A Jew is still entitled to all the protections of Halacha.  So, yes, the Israelis are, technically, Jews.  Because of their horrible actions over the past 60  years, they are also technically rodfei, minim, malshinim, etc, etc.  To repeat all these things is tiresome.  It is much easier to simply refer to them as \"Israelis\" and to the innocent Jews as \"Jews\".\n\nAmong the many reasons to establish Medinat Yehudah is the fact that the existence of Medinat Yehudah will finally take away the Israelis\' fear of the Jews and will therefore allow Jews and Israelis to live in peace side by side.  The Israelis will stop attacking the Jews and will instead begin to cooperate with the Jews.  This, in turn, will remove from the Israelis the sin of being minim, rodfei, etc, etc.  Believe it or not, Medinat Yehudah will save the lives of countless Israelis, not to mention their souls.");
AddReply(342403,"I see that, unlike Larry, SK reads what I write","Mike","Vienna, VA","09/12/08","Larry, dear, go visit the Virtual Medinat Yehudah and READ.\n\nIn a nutshell, the Israelis\' attempt to eliminate the dati leumi will end in a Second Holocaust.  Unless they are stopped, it is inevitable.  And they cannot be stopped except by partitioning the country into Medinat Israel and Medinat Yehudah.  This partition cannot be achieved except by force.  The Jews and the Israelis are not the same people and never have been.  The funny part is, the likes of Peres knew it even in the late eighties.  Only the Jews themselves are ignorant of this basic fact.\n\nI will not even comment on your idiotic assumption that a Torah State needs to be a dictatorship, or that the ultimate aim of enabling the kingdom of Moshiach to arise speedily in our lifetime somehow prevents us from establishing a Torah Republic.  Obviously, you have not read a word I have written on the subject.\n\nP.S.  SK is right.  Medinat Yehudah would fine him or any other person for strolling about in indecent attire.  It would probably be a hefty fine and the policeman writing the ticket would likely angrily point out that the streets of Yerushalayim are not some beach in Tel Aviv and that those who want to act like goyim should go to Israel where they belong.  But to suppose that Medinat Yehudah would be some kind of barbaric theocracy that would, say, behead SK for wearing a tank top is ludicrous on the face of it, not to mention an affront to the Torah and a violation of Halacha.");
AddReply(342402,"My choice","Daniel","Kyoto","09/12/08","If there were elections between Mike and Meidad, my vote would go to Mike.");
AddReply(342332,"Larry means (I think) that he hated the GK expulsion, ...","sk","USA","09/12/08","... not GK itself.\n\nLarry, I do not know whether I would qualify as a \"Jew\" under Mike\'s schema, but as I certainly would not be an \"Israeli\" in identity even if I had citizenship, I don\'t see the problem for me personally.  My understanding was that this was an issue of identity and allegiance, not of degree of observance.  That said, I expect that Mike\'s Torah Republic would issue me a ticket if I strolled in Medinat Yehuda with a tank top.\n\nThe problem is that \"Israelis\" don\'t seem willing to seize power from their elites in the usual way.  GIVEN that, Mike\'s suggestion is likely to be the only way to avoid the literal destruction of Israel.  You consistently fail to see what the real alternatives are here.\n\nAnother point that you seem unable to understand, though it has been repeated endlessly, is that Mike is not going to seize Tel Aviv or Haifa.  What he\'s going to do is seize areas rich in Jewish history and chockfull of Muslims who want nothing more than to kill you.\n\nIf Matar wants no more than Mike (though perhaps via different means), why would I or any secular Jew oppose it?\n\nAs for free speech, yes, there is some free speech in Israel, but no, free speech as such is NOT protected, nor is freedom of assembly, nor freedom of the press. Speech and actions are allowed until they become \"dangerous\" to the regime; then they are not allowed.  Don\'t fool yourself.");
AddReply(342271,"Larry?","Rachel Singer","isREAL","09/11/08","How does one HATE a part of Israel?  My goodness, Man the rich Jewish history is there. Learn it!\n\nDid you HATE doing miluim there?  Well then that\'s a different story. \n\nBut how does one come to hate beautiful seaside communities where secular and religious flourished together, whilst bringing in millions of shekels in revenue for YOUR state?\n\nPlease clarify!\n");
AddReply(342244,"Larry, why did you hate Gush Katif so much?","Hadassa DeYoung","Elon Moreh","09/11/08","I lived there for 14 years and I can tell you that one of the reasons why secular Jews hated Gush Katif so much was that there was no reason to hate it. Religious and secular Jews lived peaceably together in Gush Katif. Virtually all the men served in the army, including reserve duty. Who tried to get out of reserve duty until the expulsion was planned? Unemployment was two percent. The agricultural advancements were world renowned and excess produce was donated to the needy at the rate of ten truckloads a day. Those advancements were achieved hand-in-hand with impressive halachic research also. Now that we\'re gone the Arabs haven\'t stopped lobbing missiles. They\'ve merely increased their range, including the secular kibbutzim that so very badly wanted us gone.\n\nAlso please remember Larry, if democracy is so important to you, that Ariel Sharon ignored two democratic decisions. The first was the anti-expulsion platform on which he was elected. The second was the Likud referendum concerning the expulsion. Sharon publicly stated that he would abide by the outcome, and he didn\'t.\nConcerning the YESHA Council, their failures and successes speak for themselves. Migron is a good opportunity for them to regain the support of the residents of Yosh. Does anyone think they will?");
AddReply(342225,"Dear Larry","Rob","usa","09/11/08","My wife is the daughter of a shoah survivor, she does not agree with you.Neither Did B. Kahane !");
AddReply(342099,"Comments 5-7","Larry","TA","09/11/08","I agree that Yisrael\'s comeback was a little strong. The problem is not criticizing Yesha Council or Medad. The problems are 1) the three of you distort the reality. Naturally, you feel provoked (as I did some weeks ago) because Medad did not appear to want any criticism on the issue. So that ratchets up the testosterone. Back to the point, which is your distortions. Israel is not Nazi Germany; sorry. Avram Burg is wrong, Gush Shalom is wrong. So are you guys. The Yesha Council is in the position of trying to keep as many communities as it can, facing a government that appears to want to \'disengage\' from large parts of Judea and Samaria. This government, while not exactly representing the people, is not actively opposed by the people. This is so for a variety of reasons. The people\'s lack of opposition - or apparent lack - does not, again, prove that there is no free speech in Israel. It does not make Shitrit a Nazi, or Avi Dichter one. These are ridiculous comparisons. \n\nLet\'s take Dichter as an example of the \'evil\' government. Son of a Holocaust survivor, former head of Shabak, his own apartment building bombed by Hamas in Ashkelon. According to you guys, he\'s a Nazi, or acquiesces to Israeli fascism. \n\nWhere in Israeli policy is there a plan to liquidate the Jews? Of course, once you define a \'Jew\' as narrowly as Mike does, that is, as a super-militant Haredi-Halachic Jew who must seek every day to impose UltraOrthodoxy on others and work at expelling all the non-Jews from the land, then the argument begins to carry weight. Except that most Israelis and Israeli politicians are not \'anti-Semitic\', though some on the Left qualify. All I have to do is accept Mike\'s definition of a Jew. SK would not qualify. I would not qualify. Medad is out. Ellen Horowitz, with her Golan farms and IDF veteran hubby and kids in combat units, and religious loyalties, is not, according to Mike\'s theories, a real Jew. \n\nSo we arrive at a theologic-philosophic reality where an atheist or agnostic such as SK is defending Mike\'s right to define SK as a functional non-Jew, because Mike is both Kahane and Rabbi. \n\nI read in Naomi Matar\'s latest column that the purpose of opposing evacuation of settlement is to found the Jewish Kingdom in the future. Again, we run into a different variation of the contradiction Mike poses and SK supports - Naomi would have the population rebel and undo Gush Katif, but not for democracy and not for security and not even for the right of Jews to live anywhere in the Land of Israel. And not to prevent a two-state \'solution\', which I very much want to stop as well. No, if you join Nadia it is to help build the Jewish Kingdom.\n\nMike, that should be a clarion call. For me, it is reason to back away from Nadia and her friends. Folks on A Sheva get extremely shrill about the lack of democracy in Israel. The solution? A dictatorship. I am deeply sorry that the Israeli gov\'t has harassed right wing elements as it has. It\'s counterproductive, and there certainly is an element of Jewish self-denial in some of this. And some of the \'leaders\' have sold out, literally, for the shekel. I don\'t doubt that the harassment of Kahane was wrong and anti-democratic - far more so than Gush Katif, because in reality much of the public wanted out of Gaza. Sharon\'s machinations were appalling in forming Kadima and splitting the Likud, but Bibi did not really oppose him. And for all the easy theories about why, probably the overriding reason is that the Israeli public felt as it did. \n\nFor centuries and more, we as Jews have ripped each other apart in the name of purity and being right. I have criticisms about the Yesha Council, and did not like it when Medad seemed not to want to answer them. But he is also saying, \'it\'s not all or nothing, guys.\'\n\nAs for SK\'s wildly self-confident remarks that there is no free speech in Israel, he is wrong. If you read and understand Hebrew, you see that he is wrong. So for example a Maariv/Channel 9 commentator, Ofer Shelach (sp?) wrote a long op-ed piece in a Maariv Shabbat edition in March slamming the media for distorting the events around the Merkaz HaRav slaughter of the yeshiva students, for erasing the role of one of those who stopped the terrorist while selecting and advancing their hero as the young soldier who finished off the terrorist (while ignoring the other guy\'s role, because, as Shelach wrote, \'he reminded them of Yigal Amir.\') Nobody took Ofer away in the middle of the night. The Shabak did not interrogate him. He did not lose his job.\n\nI hated Gush Katif, but in choosing between Israelis like Dichter and Shelach and the Mike\'s of this world, if I must choose I\'ll go with Dichter.");
AddReply(341986,"it takes one to know one","aryeh","same hills","09/11/08","bs\"d\n\n\"Delusional sick and perverted\" are epithets more precisely directed toward Medad.\n\nNot to worry, Mike.\n\nMedad doesn\'t want to acknowledge that there were Kapos and Judenrats in the Shoah.  But we know they existed.  They collaborated with the enemy, and Jews were tortured and murdered because of them.\n\nIt\'s a difficult thing to imagine, yes.  So difficult for Medad that he won\'t even countenance the possibility that it\'s happening again: that there are Jews who are amongst the enemies of the Jewish people.\n\nToday.\n\nIn Eretz Yisrael.\n\nEven in Yehuda and Shomron.\n\nAnd in Shilo.");
AddReply(341902,"Medad, unfortunately you came through as well.","sk","USA","09/11/08","Do you know how much contempt I have for someone with no psychiatric training who blathers about someone else\'s alleged psychiatric problems in order to hide the truth?\n\nDo you really think that the average reader is on your side?  All you do is demean yourself by such sewage.\n\nIn addition, neither Israel nor INN has free speech, nor do Israelis understand or believe in the concept (with very few exceptions).");
AddReply(341898,"Raving and ranting, Medad?","Mike","Vienna, VA","09/11/08","I am not surprised at your comment, seeing as it comes from a stooge who works for the Yesha Judenrat.  But let\'s get the record straight.  The Yesha Judenrat was directly responsible for the pogroms at Gush Katif and Amona.  It cooperates with those who expel and murder Jews.  Just a few weeks ago, it announced that it had sold the Jews of Migron in exchange for a \"deal\".  And before that, there was a \"deal\" about Amona and Homesh and Sa-Nur one about Gush Katif...  How many \"deals\" have there been over the years?  How many Jews have already been murdered by Israel\'s Moslem allies because of these \"deals\"?  \n\nAs for the Israeli kapos, tell me, Medad, why are there Moslem terrorists in Yesha?  Why are there murderous Amalekites infesting Schem and Hebron?  Why do rockets keep falling on Sderot?  Is it not because IDF provides \"security\" and facilitates Moslem terror?  Why, just the other day the IDF again arrested Jews for the \"crime\" of defending their homes from Moslem terrorists!  It\'s a DAILY occurrence.  The moslems attack and murder Jews.  The IDF protects the Moslems and arrests Jews.  The Moslems, may I remind you, are out to EXTERMINATE the Jews.  So is the term \"kapo\" not appropriate to any pseudo-Jew who wears the filthy uniform of Israel\'s \"army\"?\n\nThe Holocaust language is neither \"sick\" nor \"raving\".  It is exactly to the point.  What we are facing is nothing less than a deliberate campaign to exterminate the dati leumi.  This campaign is being waged by the State of Israel with the full knowledge and cooperation of the Yesha Judenrat.\n\nAs of right now, the Yesha Council\'s cooperation with the Israeli authorities from the beginning of the Oslo Process on has cost over 2000 Jewish lives. So who is sick?  Is Vienna Mike, who calls things what they are, sick?  Or is Medad, who cooperates with those whose only goal is to murder as many Jews as possible?\n\nNow, Medad, the real question I have to ask you is: Even assuming you escape the punishment of a Resistance Tribunal here on Earth, do you not recall that there is an inescapable Court up in Heaven?  Or is it that you, like your Israeli masters, deny the very existence of Hashem?");
AddReply(341870,"YESHA COUNCIIL IS NOTORIOUS","","","09/10/08","FOR ITS COLLABORATION WITH THE GOVERNMENT.  IT\'S BEEN POINTED OUT LOADS OF TIME BY THE YESHA PEOPLE.  IF THEY KNOW IT (& WHO BETTER), WHAT\' IS THERE TO DISCUSS.");
AddReply(341839,"Mike, You Came Through","YMedad","Shiloh","09/10/08","Dear readers, did you read \"Mike\'s\" raving ranting delusional sick and perverted comment?  \"Kapos\" and \"Judenrats\", etc.  The guy, if he exists or is only the pyschotic other-self of someone, is unbalanced and mentality problematic.  His real concerns are warped by some need to mouth off in the most despicable language.  But, we believe in free speech, so, we suffer - but not in silence.");
AddReply(341783,"What is to discuss about the Yesha Judenrat?","Mike","Vienna, VA","09/10/08","Anyone who tolerates Israeli kapos and their \"security\" deserves what he gets.  The doctrinally correct fate of the Yesha Judenrat has been discussed at the Virtual Medinat Yehudah.  There is no need for further comment.");
AddReply(341745,"Well.....","Rob","usa","09/10/08","Rabbit punches are better than no punches, I suppose...\n\nWhere is west bank anyway?");

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