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AddReply(337410,"#10 Mike","Gary","Monterey, CA","08/28/08","Please list your Scripture references where G-d makes any changes to the original set-up.  I\'ve studied the book of Judges and the commentaries so many times I can\'t count them.");
AddReply(337204,"To #10:  I refer you to the Book of Judges","Mike","Vienna, VA","08/27/08","In its entirety.");
AddReply(337186,"Dear Gary, # 10","Rob","usa","08/27/08","I advise against making a fight with Mike. I have yet to see a clear winner in ANY debate with Him.\n\nDon\'t go there amigo!, Or if you insist? listen carefully.");
AddReply(336788,"#9 Mike","Gary","Monterey, CA","08/26/08","Please list your references in Scripture of any changes by G-d to the original structure of Tabernacle worship and governmental design as set-up by Moses.  We will see how much knowledge Mike actually has!!!!! ");
AddReply(336433,"To #7: You are even more ignorant than I thought!","Mike","Vienna, VA","08/25/08","Moshe Rabeinu and Joshuah had two TOTALLY DIFFERENT systems of government.  Moshe was guided by divine will.  His government was a direct Theocracy.  It was impossible for this government to continue past Moshe because it required a prophet of the caliber of Moshe to lead the State.  \n\nJoshuah\'s government was a totalitarian military dictatorship.  It was ideally suited to the task at hand, namely the conquest of Canaaan.  however, Joshuah knew full well that this form of government is utterly corrupting in the long term and saw to it that this governemnt did not continue past his death.\n\nAfter Joshuah, Shoftim ruled a Republic, as Hashem intended.");
AddReply(335533,"P.S. to my last TB.","sk","USA","08/21/08","People should review Fishman\'s latest series of TBs if they have any doubt of the problem in Yesha.  This guy thinks he\'s being pious by trashing TBs left and right because they are either critical of him or criticize robotic belief in tired catchprases.\n\nThis is what the Left does, though based on different tired catchphrases.  The thing is, the Left is much more clever in its Bolshevism, giving it a patina of liberalism.  So, play the leftist game, and you will lose.");
AddReply(334582,"#5 Mike","Gary","Monterey, CA","08/19/08","I was referring to the initial set-up under Moses and Joshua not 400 years later.");
AddReply(334472,"Off the wall suggestion for a topic -- INN censorship.","sk","USA","08/18/08","Dr. Klein, we often disagree, but I do not doubt that you\'re the only intellectually formidable essayist on INN.  You and I have gone back and forth on email, so you know I\'m not just flattering you.\n\nIn the past 6 or so months, censorship on INN has gone markedly up.  It started with Fishman\'s blog, where he stated his \"no blashphemy\" rule, indicating that he would censor on this basis.  (\"Blasphemy\" evidently is a flexible term, as it seems to include such things as criticisms of Kabbalah.)\n\nNow it has spread to our friend Yisrael Medad\'s blog, and it seems always to have the same overall purpose:  to protect the pet ideas of the blogger.  It is constrained, it seems, only when the cost is a serious risk of a declining number of TBs.  YM, of course, does not get many at any rate, so he pays little penalty.\n\nThere are some who refuse to censor.  Batya Medad seems unwilling to do so--though I\'ve certainly not minded pissing her off--and it seems she has spoken to censors to discourage it.  Tamar actively opposes the practice and mostly filters her own TBs, thus ensuring it does not happen much on her blog.\n\nMore than a year ago, the sublime Baruch Gordon rejected the practice of censorship overall.  But he seems to have changed his mind.\n\nWhy then do I write to you?  Simple.  I do not think that INN essayists have much influence on the Israeli elites overall or the Israeli public.  Mostly, this is bad news.  But I suspect that these same essayists have some sway on the readership at INN and INN elites.  So, I\'m wondering what your view is.\n\nYou know mine, of course.  I think that the extreme deviation from good democratic practice in Israel (originating in its seriously defective political system) has largely corrupted the average Israeli to such a point that even simple collective action from the settlerfolk has become nearly impossible.  These settlers now seem to believe that if they do not read about something it will go away.  They have internalized Bolshevic ideas supporting shutting down debate.  I think this is the kiss of death to the settlerfolk.  You may or may not agree.\n\nAs I think much of the admonition \"think globally, act locally,\" I\'m looking for some local action.\n\n----\n\nP.S. to the censor:  I do not know if Klein filters his own TBs.  If not, and if you delete this one, I\'ll just send it via email.  This would then be additional grist for the mill.");
AddReply(333737,"Gary, read your Bible","Mike","Vienna, VA","08/15/08","Your ignorance is so overwhelming it is ridiculous.  The Torah permits numerous governments.  Among these are Chiefdom, Theocracy, Military Dictatorship, Republic and Monarchy.  In fact, a clear preference is given to republican government.  Just read the books of Judges and Samuel.  Note the number of rebukes to those who would be king.  The Torah wishes that HASHEM should be king.  The Jews should have no Earthly king.  THAT is the true meaning of the mizvah \"Make yourselves a king\".  The rule of Shoftim was a form of Republic.  The monarchy was instituted strictly as an emergency measure and was NEVER Hashem\'s preffered choice for our government.");
AddReply(332920,"Theocracy or Republic?","Gary","Monterey, CA","08/13/08","Dr. Klein,\n\nJudaism in antiquity was structured by Moses as a theocracy centered on the Laws of Moses.  There was one way, not many.  There was one structure, not many.  Not to belabor the point, but Judaism was set-up as a national religion based upon the Tabernacle.\nThe United States of America was based upon freedom of government control in rights granted to the people.  The Protestants of Europe, while being persecuted by the Catholics, sought for religious and personal freedoms where they could worship G-d in their own convictions to Scriptures and not be force to see their faith another way.  During the first 150 years of America\'s growth, most immigrants came from Northern Europe in the prodominantly Protestant communities.  The last 150 years, most came from Southern Europe in the prodominantly Catholic communities.  The point is that the concept of freedom was founded by Protestants wanting independance and freedom.\nBut freedom doesn\'t necessarily apply to Judaism.  It is a national religion set-up with one way not to be duplicated into various ways.\nEither return to the original structure  of the Tabernacle worship and the sacrificial requirements, or continue to have these unparallelled troubled times.");
AddReply(331860,"nice- but here\'s where I disagree","Daniel","Kyoto","08/08/08","Nice piece- I agree with most of it.\nI don\'t think the polls will work, because Israel is not a democracy. They\'ll use the media to manipulate public opinion, and if that fails, they\'ll lie about the results or ignore them. See Sharon\'s handling of the \"referendum\".\nBut from another point of view, I will disagree- Israel is not one society, but several. Chillonim in Tel-Aviv keep their civil compact with Chillonim in Tel-Aviv to some extent. The problem is that we are not part of the same society. It\'s not surprising really, given that as a Jewish people we were separated for 2000 years, and our common culture is in national and political matters quite limited.\nThe Jewish people realizing that we are one people is the way forward, I think. One people can have a workable civil compact.\nThe worst violators of this, sadly, seem to be the national religious, who will charedi-bash without seeing anything wrong with it, and be condescending towards chillonim, and view Jews abroad as virtually traitors. I hate to say it, but national religious are as much the problem as we may eventually hope to be the solution.");
AddReply(331619,"Close, but no cigar","Mike","Vienna, VA","08/07/08","Disengagement was not about a majority acting to disregard the rights of a minority.  Disengagement was a ringing declaration of DIFFERENCE.  Disengagement PROVED BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that Jews and Israelis are not the same people and cannot live in peace in the same State.  \n\nA Jew does not expel a Jew.  That is not a slogan, it is a law of nature that is as inviolate as gravity.  Hashem in his infinite wisdom has given us the means, via the Disengagement, to separate the holy from the unholy, the good from the evil and Jew from the goy.  \n\nNow it is simply a matter of the Jews of the Holy Land finally recognizing that the Israeli is just another vicious goy, no different from any other, and acting accordingly.  The only answer is Medinat Yehudah.  The sooner you realize this, the fewer Jews will die.");
AddReply(331442,"Brief comment.","sk","USA","08/07/08","1) Dr. Klein says: \"Unlike others, I could not fool myself that there was some kind of “democratic deficit” involved in the act.  Sharon’s parliamentary maneuvers were small change compared to the kind of things done in the British Parliament in the late 19th century.\"\n\nYes, but that that time UK itself had a democracy deficit.  It wasn\'t a true Parliamentary democracy until, maybe, ca 1930, AT EARLIEST.\n\nIsrael is also not one now.  So, everything the government does has a \"democracy deficit.\"\n\n2)  \"Redress that can only come by replacing the failed culture and morals of Jewish society in Eretz Yisrael with our own—not by force but in the only meaningful way, by consent, expressed as well at the polls.\"\n\nI find this mysterious.  How exactly is the \"consent\" manifested?  And given that Israel is not a democratic republic, how can polls (elections) be instrumental in reform?\n\nMuch of the corruption of Israeli morals originates, I am convinced, in its defects of government.\n\nOne more thing.  Vienna Mike\'s insistence on Medinat Yehudah has great merit.  I am not convinced that that secular Jews and religious ones can actually share real power in one society.");

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