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AddReply(333121,"I finally agree with Leah on something!  (30)","sk","USA","08/13/08","Of course, Leah should write in English on an English-language web site.\n\nI was so disgusted with the shirtless Arabs I blocked the photos.\n\nYM, are there no shirtless Jews to showcase?");
AddReply(332382,"I would like to submit my resume Mr. Medad!","FIT graduate","USA","08/11/08"," Wow!!  With all this focus on Fatah Thugs in Undies and your amazing visual art displays I just thought to myself why not put up a whole spread for us?  Call it \"Terrorist Thug Illustrated by Medad.\"  I am a fashion designer from FIT, and I would like to design the exclusive Fatah prints.  Including but not limited to, briefs with \"jihad-life\" trim, boxer briefs with custom-designed crescent pouch (with woven star on thigh fabric), the \'gold dome line\' which will feature a plain pair of hanes tighty whiteys with a big gold dome covering over it entirely, where only the dome can be seen, to symbolize the Islamic act of covering up history and reality with gold domes.   The ladies will never suspect what\'s REALLY under that Fatah thug\'s gold dome... Because the terrorist will never allow the world to see (he has hijacked a pair of hanes - but didn\'t fly it into any buildings).    The gold dome line of course is featured in the modesty section.  All our models will wear tshirts to keep Islamic lash marks hidden.  Oh, the lashes only go to the women.   Never mind.   But we can work out the details Mr. medad.  Contact me.  I am sending A7 my email and credentials to forward to your personal account.\n\n\n... A regular poster here....  ");
AddReply(332019,"Bolsheviks censor my response (28)","sk","USA","08/08/08","Do you want to know why you settlerfolk will easily be destroyed by Moslems & Israeli elites?  You cannot fight back because of your bizarre \"Jewish\" morality, which has more to do with Eastern Europe and dhimmitude under Islam than Judaism.  I guess that\'s why Hashem has me writing to you, to show you that even the writings of a secular sodomite are closer to God than yours.\n\nCensored version:\n\n\"This reminds me of something I wrote on Fish\'s Blog. I pointed out that observant Jews would never eat a reptile, but that there are some reptiles who eat Jews... I guess making this observation is also \"forbidden.\" Tough. Norms of politeness should not shield perfidy, especially when it is repeated.\n\nAh, but norms of politeness (\"Jewish\" values) HAVE shielded perfidy, because I named the name of the reptile in question, who, I needn\'t add, wears shades.");
AddReply(331942,"Yisrael!","Leah","Jerusalem","08/08/08","Please take those disgusting pictures of Arabs in underwear off the blog.\nSeriously, they\'re not tzanua and  kids shouldn\'t see them either.");
AddReply(331880,"yesha boy:  It sounds like you have chosen to forgive the unforgivable","Velvel","silver spring","08/08/08","You have no right to attack us for not doing the same.\n\n  You talk about sinat chinam, but that term means \"BASELESS hatred.\"    We can debate the term hatred, but it\'s not relevant because obviously any complaint on the Pesha Council is valid due to their behavior and therefore not baseless!   So hatred or not, it\'s not sinat chinam.\n\nWe have no moral obligation to forgive perfidy.  You can threaten every punishment from shamayim you can think of, but it\'s not for you to tell others they have to forgive the horrors that you apparently forgave (and by doing so, welcome further the repeat offenses against you or potentially even enable them by encouraging others to do the same with all the forgiving and forgetting and the \'thats just how it is with them\' nonsense).  \n\nAnd stop with the false labelling.  Everyone who disagrees with you is not by default \'speaking loshan hara\'   You obviously don\'t know what it is, if you include criticism of Pesha Council under that umbrella, anyway.  \n\nYou obviously refuse to respond to any points or any substance and all you keep doing is brandishing the \'divine punishment\' stick at everyone.   You obviously can\'t handle the truth people are speaking here loud and clear.   There is nothing more irritating than seeing you regurgitate the same tripe again and again threatening us with divine punishment as if you were sent by Hashem.....   \n\n Face facts, you are incapable of debating the points we are making.   You\'ve brought a water pistol to a border patrol, hombre.");
AddReply(331776,"bad-yesha-guy (27)","sk","USA","08/08/08","Dude, what is wrong with you?  I\'ll let observant Jews deal with your silly Halachic claims and the Hebrew mumbo-jumbo that is routinely used to prevent reform. Let\'s talk in practical terms.\n\nYou say:\n\n\"My comment to you all was, that you pointing all the blame on the council and Mr. Medad is ridiculous, and mean, and wrong.\"\n\nTalk about ridiculous!  Nobody is putting ALL the blame on the YC and/or Medad.  In fact, though, much blame CAN be attributed to the YC and therefore to anyone who legitimates it or facilitates its work (or its interference with the development of Yesha).  That includes Medad.\n\n\"They didn\'t want this to happen, and the blame can\'t be carried soley by them.\"\n\nAgain, the \"solely\" biz is a straw man.  Regardless, just as your first gambit was to blame Jews outside Israel for your plight, now you suggest that negligence is not to be taken seriously.  But it\'s worse than that.  Why TODAY is Medad bolstering the YC?  It\'s one thing to screw up, but it\'s quite another to repeat the screw up with hindsight.\n\nNote that I strongly believe that some of the YC DELIBERATELY facilitated the destruction of Gush Katif.  But I don\'t have to make this claim to recommend that NOW, in light of what happened, every YC member and every hanger on should be tarred and feathered.\n\n\"And your lashon harah and personal attacks on Mr. Medad just because you don\'t like the yesha/pesha council is absolutely forbidden and carries a heavy heavy weight in shamayim.\"\n\nThis reminds me of something I wrote on Fish\'s Blog.  I pointed out that observant Jews would never eat a reptile, but that there are some reptiles who eat Jews...  I guess making this observation is also \"forbidden.\"  Tough.  Norms of politeness should not shield perfidy, especially when it is repeated.");
AddReply(331662,"I will make one last attempt to make you understand","good-yesha-guy","","08/07/08","My comment left here was not to defend the pesha council...   I too am even more upset than any of you about them as it personally affected me.  But after discussing this issue not long after we found out that the yesha C. caved in, we came to understand who they were and how they work (or don\'t work)  in a situation like this. \n\n My comment to you all was, that you pointing all the blame on the council and Mr. Medad is ridiculous, and mean, and wrong.  They didn\'t want this to happen, and the blame can\'t be carried soley by them. And your lashon harah and personal attacks on Mr. Medad just because you don\'t like the yesha/pesha council is absolutely forbidden and carries a heavy heavy weight in shamayim.  You better be careful and you better think about your sinat chinam you have for others who believe differently than you. Medad, and neither did the yesha council want any expulsion to take place.  This senseless hatred and blame on people you don\'t even know,  is what brought down the Holy Temple and sent us into Exile.  This Tisha B\'Av, maybe it would be a good thing to concentrate on this,,,,,,,,,,,,,and mend our ways by not repeating them.  ");
AddReply(331632,"To #20: SK has already said everything but one thing","Mike","Vienna, VA","08/07/08","That thing is the simple truth: until you act to defend yourselves by the only means available to those oppressed by a foreign occupation and a totalitarian police state, you are not \"in the ring\".  Vienna Mike will come to the Holy Land under the same conditions and for the same purposes that caused Karo Kahkejian to come to Artsakh.  If you are intent on suicide instead, don\'t blame me.\n\nP.S. Who is more pathetic, those who put their trust in a bunch of clerks or those who defend these clerks after the fact and refuse to wrest control from them?  The Yesha Council is a Judenrat.  It could be nothing else.  My real contempt is not reserved for THEM.  My conempt is reserved for those who place their garbage collection above their survival and therefore refuse to relegate the clerks to their proper position.");
AddReply(331587,"Sk (22) ","Rob","usa","08/07/08","Jews have an aversion to being arrested. We have been taught at an early age to obey the law. I can\'t imagine mild mannered Medad sneaking around Yesha with a hot stick and bolt cutters, cutting power lines to muzzie households, and cracking peace now freaks over the head, although that would be pretty cool. ");
AddReply(331504,"to the goodie yesha guy","Velvel","silver springs","08/07/08","\"oh you will pay and pay for your sins\" he cries \n\nIt is not sinful to point out the yesha council perfidy.  In fact, it\'s MANDATORY. \n\n  I have not committed \"loshan harah\" against Medad, but certainly if he supports the yesha council, which is an enemy of the Jewish people, then I don\'t particularly care for him at all.   But since you don\'t like me, you cry \"loshan harah\" and threaten me with the Divine court of Justice, and hide behind your \"status\" as \'in the land\' as if you are therefore superior.   \n\nI bet for an ignoramus like you, someone like olmert who sells out the land of Israel to terrorists is \"doing his duty\" and \'is more holy in the nail of his finger\' than any of us, since afterall he lives in Israel, and we don\'t so forget about behavior or treason against the Jewish people, he inhales the holy sand and the yesha-guy-breath, you have a new value system that says \"in-land good, out-of-land bad.\"    You have taken one commandment from Torah and distorted it and aim to supercede all of Torah with a single commandment.  You are worshipping a commandment (to settle the land) rather than worshipping Hashem.\n\nSome of us can still think clearly, and this is getting to the bottom line, to save us the kind of back and forth like sk is bothering to dignify you with.  He can refute all your silly arguments all day long, but it all comes down to what I said above.  This is the root of your pathology.\n\n\n\nand then little yesha guy says well, they decided to capitulate and sell out gush katif, but ummm err i dunno does that make them an enemy well GEEEEE,    ");
AddReply(331316,"to bad-yesha-guy (20)","sk","USA","08/06/08","You actually indict the YC very effectively--intending to hurl abuse, you instead sing praise to the anti-YC crowd.  I think there\'s some Torah story about that.\n\nFeiglin and Matar are just two people who have clarified my own thinking about the YC.  If you think my understanding is wrong, please complain to them.\n\n\"The prevention of the expulsion was not the sole responsibility of a bunch of city clerks. it was all of our responsibility to stop this. Where were you sitting when this was happening? Why didn\'t you and don\'t you still, come to Israel to pitch in and strengthen us who are in the ring? Seems to us here in the settlements that you just want to deflect the blame from your own in-action, to poor Mr. Medad, the YESHA council and all of the Israelis who didn\'t grab machine guns and mow people down.\"\n\nSeems to ME that you have made an outstanding argument for why moving to Israel is suicide.  That was the dumbest exercise is blaming others for one\'s own inaction and wilfull blindness that I have ever seen (outside of Fishman\'s blather).\n\nI am not to blame for your idiocy.  I do not OWE you.  I WOULD be to blame if I pretended that you would be less idiotic if I and some other Americans came over there.\n\nAnyway, you can play as many blame games as you want.  When the Israeli elites let the Muslims slaughter you, none of that will make a bit of difference.");
AddReply(331313,"Rob, are you even TRYING to make sense?","sk","USA","08/06/08","First you grant that Israel is not a democratic republic.  Then, to Velvel, you suggest that one should \"play the game\" as one would in an American political organization or at a job.  In other words, your response to Israel\'s major deviation from democracy is to choose methods that only work in a democracy.  Then you tell me that *I* make the error you have just made.\n\nIn fact, what troubles me is that Israelis don\'t even do what they could actually mostly get away with.  Are you telling me they couldn\'t cut the power to the Muslims?  Could they not protest and torment Peace Now troublemakers?  Could they not create viable settlements instead of nonviable suburbs?");
AddReply(331229,"Velvel, It\'s not my backyard Bro","Rob","usa","08/06/08","If you have ever been involved with any type of political or municipal organization, or heck! even the corp. world, you have to play the game.\n\nYou do not honestly believe Medad is an enemy of the jewish people, do you?\n\nBig picture thinking is a good start, such as TB #1.");
AddReply(331153,"to all detractors of the YESHA council and Medad","good-yesha-guy","","08/06/08","All of you who are dripping venom from your teeth at Medad and the yesha council are the ones who live in the Diaspora.  You know absolutely nothing on how things work here, and your poisonous barbs at Medad make you just Diaspora bullies.  You pick on him as if he makes policy or agrees with their policy, or even that he will represent the YESHA-ITES in front of the press.  But you don\'t have a clue how things work here, yet you spurt your venom.  Let me enlighten you of how things work here.\n\nThe YESHA council is simply the \'municipality workers\' of the yesha settlements.  They have to make sure that street lights run, that garbage is collected and that buildings to serve the various  communities get built.  They are not idealists, ideologists, politicians with vision, etc. etc.  They are simply clerks making the cogs go round as best they can so people can have their garbage collected and have things run. \n\nTo lop on their heads the responsibility of the failure of the disengagement/expulsion is tossing the blame on a shlamazal body, just so you can feel good and have someone to be angry at.  \n\nSo, this body, the yesha council was probably pressured by the government that they would have their programs cancelled, their budgets cut, etc... if they continued their march onto gush katif.  So, they were weak, and they capitulated.  They probably figured that the government is inexhaustible in it\'s power to make the disengagement happen, and they are just facing the truth and are just going to have to make the best of a terrible situation.  They decided to do what is best for their needs.\n\nDoes this make them an enemy?  It makes them short sighted, inept and perhaps even selfish thinking about their own needs for their own communities.  But it doesn\'t make them traitors and ones who wanted the government to do what it did.  \n\nShould they have capitulated?  NO.  But does it mean you can blame them for the whole thing and spit on Medad with contempt?  NO.  \n\nThe prevention of the expulsion was not the sole responsibility of a bunch of city clerks.  it was all of our responsibility to stop this.  Where were you sitting when this was happening?  Why didn\'t you and don\'t you still, come to Israel to pitch in and strengthen us who are in the ring?  Seems to us here in the settlements that you just want to deflect the blame from your own in-action, to poor Mr. Medad, the YESHA council and all of the Israelis who didn\'t grab machine guns and mow people down.\n\nYou will have to pay for your evil slander against Mr. Medad when your time is up and you stand before the court in heaven.  When they ask \'what did you do to fight the injustice, I bet Mr. Medad will have a lot more on his side than you will on yours.  be careful when pointing fingers, and be careful about your lashon harah on Mr. Medad, a good Jew, a good man, and one who does more by just breathing here, than you finger pointers in the exile.\n");
AddReply(331076,"Rob, don\'t tell me you are blinded by the Pesha Council perfidy","Velvel","silver spring","08/06/08","Don\'t tell me you can\'t see the pesha council\'s perfidy against the Jewish people.");
AddReply(331066,"Sk (15) Opps, I did not adress your question, sorry..","Robdude","usa","08/06/08","It is not the job of the Yeshites to be loved by \"israelis\" or the world biggies. It is their job to keep Hashems commandments, and prepare this land for redemption, and find Joseph wherever He is. This means You, I, Vienna Mike, if we are not willing to live in the land, are required to assist in any way possible, financially, encouragement and grattitude for their sacrifice on our behalf, rather than bashing them at every opportunity, shame!\n\nI recommend putting forth effort in finding Joseph to bring about redemption.anything else is futile at best. there is a Fire and a Flame that will deal with the olmerts, the esau\'s, and  amelek...\n\nI still love ya bro!");
AddReply(331064,"Sk, What on earth are you talking about?","Rob","usa","08/06/08","It ain\'t kansas sammy, no it ain\'t. Here in the US, if the federal government closes off irrigation canals to ranchers, the ranchers show up with guns and open the gates back up. if the border patrol does not have the authority to enforce immigration laws, ranchers arm themselves with AR 15\'s, and patrol the borders themselves.\n\nMuch of what you prescibe, such as direct, non-violent action, etc., works in a DEMOCRACY. israel is not a democracy, it is an oligarchy. It also has imported many so called jews of questionable heritage in recent years thanks mainly to XTIAN organizations and their MEDDLING!, and apperently most of these judenrats have gone to work for the police?? as evidenced by recent headlines. They would bust your skull in a heartbeat sammy, that could happen here, but you would have legal avenues, where in Israel, the high courts are god on earth, and do not like the subrbanites, as you call them. Nope! these people we insult and argue with every day, are labeled as stumbling blocks to peace, backward thinkers, and fanatical religious nut cases. they are watched and baited by police and sabak, and you ask why they do not do such and such?.. Easy for us to say, living in a democracy\n\nAnd thanks sammy, now I want to start killing people..");
AddReply(330938,"To #3 -- Many want to but can\'t afford to get there","Gavrielah","Los Angeles","08/05/08","\"Everyone wants to live here except the Jews.\"\n\nBelieve me, there are people who want to make aliyah and can\'t afford it.  Yes, I know about Nefesh b\'Nefesh.  They are an awesome group, but they won\'t help you unless you\'ve already made a pilot trip.  When you are a single parent, making not even enough to fully cover monthly expenses, its a little difficult to pay for that pilot trip.  \n\nNot every Jew in galus wants to remain.  Many want to go home but can\'t figure out how to do so.");
AddReply(330920,"But Robdude ...","sk","USA","08/05/08","... V. Mike et al. are RIGHT.  As for that \"et al.,\" it contains quite a variety of people, all of whom seem to agree that the Yesha Council, by its mere existance, facilitates the destruction of Yesha.  In other words, while there is plenty of room for disagreements, including basic ones, there is no disagreement, it seems, regarding the YC.  And yet, Medad props up the YC.  Rather, he should be using his inside knowledge to dismantle it.  Medad\'s is the Bolshevik approach to truth.  \"Pravda\" indeed!\n\nYou might ask yourself how well Medad performs his PR function.  Are the Yeshites beloved by the great mass of Israelis?  By foreign biggies?");
AddReply(330690,"Didn\'t I tell you that Medad would do this?","sk","USA","08/05/08","\"6. Well, I see Yisrael will not seriously address the Yesha Council issue.\n\nEveryone should notice that my TB #6 (6/23/2008) has never been addressed.\n\nSo, in a month or so, When Yisrael comes around and says that he has addressed this issue but that nobody seems to notice, you will know that his claim is false.\nsk, USA (11/07/08)\"\n\nAnd now, what does YM say?\n\n\"I have been a critic of the Yesha Council when I thought it necessary and have volunteered to appear before the press in English when I felt the message I was conveying was helpful and representative for all of Yesha residents and not as an apparatchik of the Council. Some people have jumped on that and hammer away no matter how much I try to clarify that.\"\n\nYes, it\'s a month later, and like clockwork, YM does exactly what I predicted he would do.  \n\nYM has not \"clarified\" anything, needless to say.  The evil of which he is a part has been explained to him repeatedly.  He inevitably drops the issue without even close to an adequate response, only to posit later that he has given such a response but that no one pays attention.");
AddReply(330673,"Finally Medad !","Rob","usa","08/05/08","Begins to assert Himself against V Mike, et al. I\'m actually starting to like you, a little...");
AddReply(330665,"Where is the Exodus? Of Arabs to Eygpt!","Gary","Monterey, CA","08/05/08","");
AddReply(330610,"Larry","Velvel","silver spring","08/04/08","What was Benny Elon\'s role in expulsion protest?  I don\'t remember reading anything about him.");
AddReply(330418,"Me?","YMedad","Shiloh","08/04/08","Grasping?  You can\'t even remember where you live!  Look at your address.");
AddReply(330395,"Medad, you try way too hard","Velvel","gold springs","08/04/08","Look at you grasping for straws now, this is really sad, Medad.   ");
AddReply(330379,"Nazi Imagery","YMedad","Shiloh","08/04/08","Poor Mike, he is so warped and so in need of psychoanalytic care.  His hatred of anything and anyone on the right of the spectrum who is not as far far right as he, must be described in Nazi imagery it would seem.  \n\nFirst, the Yesha Council is a Judenrat.  And now, I scurry?\n\n\"Scurries\", you write?  Like as a rat or some other vermin?  Mike, people will think you\'re a reinicarnation of Julius Streicher or Phillippe Rupprecht or Fritz Hippler of Der ewige Jude infamy.  I know everyone has uncontrollable impulses.  But try.  Try hard.  You are Jewish, aren\'t you?");
AddReply(330338,"How Medad scurries!","Mike","Vienna, VA","08/04/08","Oh, the verbal hoops!");
AddReply(330276,"Perspective","YMedad","Shiloh","08/03/08","First, Larry, this is a blog.  It is not a party or an organization or a movement.  I express my  independent opinions and you are free to disagree.  I don\'t teach Torah and I am not a modern-day Maimonides.  I have been a critic of the Yesha Council when I thought it necessary and have volunteered to appear before the press in English when I felt the message I was conveying was helpful and representative for all of Yesha residents and not as an apparatchik of the Council.  Some people have jumped on that and hammer away no matter how much I try to clarify that.  Maybe they have a psychological need to do so or they have no other way of registering their complaints.  I don\'t mind criticism and try always to review to see if I can improve myself.  It doesn\'t help if the critics are (a) less than knowledgeable of facts; (b) promote an ideology rather than ideas; (c) are locked into their own insular framework; (d) prefer to spit out their criticism, always using metaphors like Judenrat, etc., to obtain the most shock value of insults thinking that that makes them so much better (but probably just makes them feel better).\n\nYou write: \"It was people like you who either carried the decision or followed it.\"  Well, actually, no.  I have not been a member of the Yesha Council since 1992 and even while being the media spokesperson, among others, have really never been an inner-circle member.  I just get called upon occasionally.  There were paid spokepeople like Josh Hasten and Yehudit Tayar and earlier, Yehiel Leiter.  I know you and others have a need for an identifiable target to vent, and I even may agree with some of the elements of your (collective) venting but you are just wasting your breath.  This isn\'t the place to affect change.  I even stopped working for Geula Cohen in 1994.  I feel sorry that you need to single in on me but that\'s okay, I can take it.");
AddReply(330218,"Obfuscation ","Larry","(TA)","08/03/08","While I don\'t agree with the methods of Mike and SK, and I certainly don\'t agree with Mike\'s goals, it is apparent that these guys are straw men for you, Yisrael. There is really no getting around what did and didn\'t happen around the Gush Katif expulsion. Amona is a different story, because people resisted. My feeling is that the stain that you feel - that all Yesha establishment figures with consciences feel - about the turnaway of 50K people (or so) from entering Gaza won\'t go away. It wasn\'t Mike, SK, or Velvel who made that decision. It was people like you who either carried the decision or followed it. Dan Jerusalem is right that Elon and Eitam were working for Sharon, whether consciously or by habit. \n\nIt is a fact that the heroes of the right wing are people who represent the establishment that people like you claim to oppose. How does that work? How does Benny Elon\'s niece, Har-Shefi, get mixed up in the Yigal Amir mess, and with Raviv? How do \'hard-core\' people like Haetzni and Elon end up begging the US Congress to save the Right in Israel from the \'Left\' (establishment)? There is not a shred of Zionism in that.\n\nOh, you say, how dare I? I dare. True, I did not settle Shiloh and spent most of my time during those years in the US, but these things are much larger than individuals, Yisrael. It is also not about \'falling off the edge extremists\', it is about fighting for representation of the people. And it also does not matter whether Dan is right and Jay Rockefeller sends coded Masonic messages to Oilymert or not. What matters is that Gush Katif and Amona, if they did not prove that democracy died in Israel before 2005, that it was at least severely wounded by those events.\n\nSK is right as well in that you throw up diversion after diversion. In the end it comes down to self-interest and \'what happened to you.\' The refugees from Katif are bitter because the state turned on them. When and if the state evacuates Shiloh, you will be in exactly the same boat - and share their feelings. Moshe Saperstein for instance - not I and not you - gave his body to the state that betrayed him. Not only are his feelings equal to yours, they are objectively more valid, because of that sacrifice.\n\n");
AddReply(330204,"Great Medad! LIke you I","Justin Other Windbaugh","","08/03/08","support the right of return.... the right to return Israel to the Torah observant nation she was always meant to be!");
AddReply(330058,"Olim chadashim","Israeli","Israel","08/03/08","Too bad 188 American Jews don\'t want to make aliyah every day. I read that there are hundreds more of Fatach people who want to enter Israel from Gaza at this time. Everyone wants to live here except the Jews.");
AddReply(330055,"Thanks for Admitting","YMedad","Shiloh","08/03/08","Velv, thanks for admitting you\'re confused.  I am sure it\'ll wear off, though.  But being savvy, even for a short while, wasn\'t a bad feeling after all, right?");
AddReply(330051,"Aza is Jewish land.  Send them to Saudi Arabia...","Velvel","silver spring","08/03/08"," In bodybags.  Because these are Fatah terrorists.   Oh wait I forgot.   Fatah terrorists work for the Israeli Govt.  Now that\'s confusing isn\'t it?");

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