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AddReply(321531,"Yehuda thinks druze are Moslem!","Mike","Vienna, VA","07/08/08","WOW!  You know, at some point one simply has to give up.  One cannot argue with such ignorance.\n\nReally, yehudah dear, have you tried finding out what REAL Moslems have to say about the druze?  As for Peki\'in, the issue there is not whether or not these people are druze but the weakness of the Jews of the Holy Land who failed to immediately exterminate the population of Peki\'in following the riot.");
AddReply(321394,"A quote from somewhere:","satch","UK","07/08/08"," Governments should be afraid of their people--but the people should be afraid of their G-d!");
AddReply(321177,"Rabin Square","yby","Israel","07/07/08","is every leftist\'s shrine of hellenism and self hatred.");
AddReply(321173,"Larry:  about rabin square","Velvel","silver spring","07/07/08","They take the birthright trips there.  It\'s like an \"israeli temple\" similar to yad vashem and mt masada.  I wonder how many of them find out later on the real story behind the rabin square.  the \'man of peace\' story is a compelling narrative.  ");
AddReply(321095,"Paranoia is good","Michelle","Vancouver","07/06/08","Larry has a point.  However, it\'s about time that voters lost their innocence.  They have been betrayed too many times and the more suspicious they become, the better!\n\nDo not trust politicians - none of them - no matter how good they sound.\n\nInvestigate them.  Research everything about them.  Use every legal means to rummage inside their closets.  \n\nAnd even if the politicians appear to be clean, do not trust them.  Ever.  Keep constant watch on their actions, their connections, their finances...\n\nSharon, for example, fooled many Jews.  We don\'t know even a fraction of what led him to betray them.  Same thing with Netanyahu, with his Hevron giveaway and his tepid opposition to the expulsions.\n\nKeep searching for conspiracies because there are too many disturbing and unexplained issues in Israel, and also because every politician has his price.  \n\nConstant vigilance, obsessive vigilance, are your best protection.\n\nSince the very survival of Israel is at stake, a paranoid state of mind is a healthy state of mind, given the circumstances...\n\nNo need to get paralized by fear.  The enemies are well identified and it\'s a matter of choosing the best strategy to defeat them.  \n\nStill.  Be cautious and distrustful.\n");
AddReply(321061,"Eliezer, you\'re going down hill already.","sk","USA","07/06/08","I have provided the link to the annotated version, and anyone who cares to can review the evidence.  It is damning.  Nothing beats a careful scrutiny of cited sources.  Once major errors or lies are demonstrated, the whole work becomes worthless.  The \"arguments\" of anyone who continues to use such a source (especially when it appears to be a variant of the Protocols) are also worthless.\n\nBTW, Eliezer, it just occurred to me that I have no reason to think you are even Jewish.\n\nI conclude by quoting from the Wizard of Oz:\n\nGlinda, the Good Witch of the North: You have no power here! Now begone, before somebody drops a house on you! ");
AddReply(321057,"P.S. to Michelle/Canadian Otter","sk","USA","07/06/08","Your question regarding English-language Ynet is most interesting.  In fact, Barak was commenting elsewhere that it was going to close down.  Who DID save it?  How can market forces suddenly reverse course so quickly?  The answer is  they can\'t.  Thus, we can infer political forces that can turn on a dime.  That also would roughly coincide with my banning, by the way.");
AddReply(321055,"Ah!  Canadian Otter!  (36)","sk","USA","07/06/08","Yes, I remember you well.  You were one of a small number of people who consistently had interesting things to say.");
AddReply(321054,"avee & Dan/Jerusalem:  PROGRESS.","sk","USA","07/06/08","\"A better venue for demonstrating against $hade$ would be the Bukharan synagogue where I believe he gives a shiur on Motzei Shabbat.\n\nOn the other hand, if the right would insult $hade$, it would turn the traditional Sefardi Jews against the right, because they revere him.\"\n\nNow THIS is progress, dear people!!  Actionable information!!  Dan, reverence is what needs to be demolished, and this will only happen via deeply outraging the most reverential so as to peel away those who already have doubts and those who know a mere self-interested moneybags when they see one.\n\nThe real enemy of the \"right\" is collusion among elites to keep things as they are.  Norms of politeness are well and good, but they can protect those who do not deserve protection.  Weaken $hade$ and you create room for his replacement, and one who will think three times before colluding with the enemy.  Building sometimes requires destruction.");
AddReply(320969,"The police are not allowed to shoot ","yby","Israel","07/06/08","just like the soldiers are not allowed to shoot either. This country is messed up beyond belief because we\'ve allowed our politicians to turn us into sheep and our army into a bunch of morons incapable of independent thought. ");
AddReply(320960,"No Need To Read \"Annotated\" Version of Pink Swastika","Eliezer","","07/06/08","Because there are some who refuse to accept a well documented historical record, a few direct quotes are necessary. Personal attacks & snide remarks are not debate, but rather an attempt to avoid debating the evidence whilst directing attention & hopefully animosity towards the messenger. \"The wicked prowl on every side, when vileness is exalted among the sons of men.\" [Psalms 12:10] \n\nLet\'s begin with the Reichstag fire in 1933. \"Accordingly, under circumstances which are still mysterious, a plot was worked out to burn the Reichstag building and blame the communists. Most of the plotters were homosexual & were able to persuade a degenerate moron from Holland to go with them. \n\nAfter the building was set on fire, Van der Lubbe was left wandering about in it and was arrested by the police,\" etc. [Carroll Quigley (Bill Clinton\'s Mentor while at Georgetown University) in Tragedy & Hope, The Macmillan Company, New York, NY, 1966:439] \"To all who care & seek to help.\" [Dedication by Quigley on inside front page]\n \nNext, let\'s take a bite from the horses mouth... The Overhauling of Straight America, \"The first order of business is `desensitization\' of the American public concerning gays... To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion (knowledge & understanding). \n\nIdeally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preference the way they register different tastes for ice cream (The subjective Greek theory, wherein truth is by convention & personal taste, i.e., moral pluralism and/or relativism = Hellenism).\" [Guide Magazine (a militant gay magazine), Marshall Kirk & Erastes Pill, November, 1987:7]\n \nNow let\'s move closer to WW2 & the Holocaust itself, \"For purposes of the present investigations Hitler is important for what he has represented... when he embarked the German people on the policy that brought about the world catastrophe. He (Hitler) was the central figure around which a number of men grouped themselves, from the 1920\'s onwards, in a movement to gain supreme control of the German people. As the movement developed they were aided & abetted & supported financially as well as politically by the industrial capitalists (CORPORATE COLLECTIVISTS) of the Rhineland; but the initiative did not come from the latter. It came from Hitler as the condottiere of a band of evil men who were united together by a common vice - The criminals who wreaked such astounding horrors on innocent civilian populations were not acting as soldiers drunk with the fury of battle, nor as patriotic fanatics, but as chosen instruments of a satanic religion to the service of which they had been dedicated by the systematic teaching & practice of unnatural vice.\" [Germany\'s National Vice, by Samuel Igra, London: Quality Press Ltd., 1945:94]\n \nFor more on how the west has been undermined by corrupt science & finance, read, Kinsey: Crimes & Consequences, by Dr. Judith Reisman \n\nhttp://www.drjudithreisman.com/books.html \n\nplus her article, The Pink Swastika, September 8, 2006 at http://www.drjudithreisman.com/archives/pink_swastika.pdf\n \nNo need to read the \"annotated\" version of The Pink Swastika. The fourth edition is complimentary at \n\nhttp://www.abidingtruth.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm\n\nReaders may perform their own due diligence from a well documented bibliography & come to their own informed conclusions. From G-d\'s perspective, sexual deviance opens a vortex of tuma from which G-d, Who is a \"Holy G-d,\" is compelled to withdraw. As the black prophet Bilaam (Kinsey) understood, if G-d is not with Israel, then all is permitted, including Holocausts. Thus, the \"gay\" assault upon Jerusalem comes as a parade, but conceals a destruction. Evil enters cloaked as an angel of light. SK must know this.");
AddReply(320945,"This is what I thought after Yeshiva massacre","David","Beit El","07/06/08","It seemed too convenient even after Mercaz HaRav massacre, given that the big debate at the time was on dividing Jerusalem.  The police seem to have deliberately delayed responding to the shooting.  Now another attack in Jerusalem from an East Jerusalem Arab....Hmmm");
AddReply(320934,"#25 sk - Leftist media","Michelle","Vancouver","07/06/08","The English version of Ynet was on the brink of shutting down a couple of years ago because of financial difficulties, and then it was saved by ... whom???\n\nI\'ve always wondered who really finances the leftist media in Israel.  \n\nUntil a couple of years ago I used to post on Ynet as \"Canadian Otter\".  Not any more.  (I think there\'s another Otter posting there now, but it\'s not me.)\n\nI still look at Ynet now and then for the talkbacks.  Some of them are very good ... if  they manage to get through the censor....\n");
AddReply(320929,"Lawlessness leading to terror?","Michelle","Vancouver","07/06/08","Caroline Glick has a good column on the state of lawlessness in Israel, where authorities allow Arabs to break the law with impunity.  This, she estimates, has been directly linked to the two major terror attacks in Jerusalem.  \n\nIf any of you haven’t read Anatomy of a Massacre already, please do.  It tells how the terrorists had well known criminal records that should have prevented them from being hired for their jobs, but nobody bothered to check.\n\n(Another interesting statistic of lawlessness is that 90% of new Arab construction is without permits.)\n\nhttp://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1214726207052&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull\n\nThe problem is that - perhaps due to media self-censorship - brilliant minds such as Caroline’s do not dare to tackle the root of the problem which is the presence of Arabs in the state of Israel.\n\nYou see plenty of articles about whether to tear down the home of the terrorists and, in this case, about how the law should be applied fairly and effectively… \n\nBut all that is quite pointless really.\n\nIt is the very presence of Arabs in Israel that is the problem threatening its survival as a Jewish country.\n\nThe Samson Blinded Blog states that, based on the number of young Arabs today, 18 years from now Arab voters will be 45% the number of Jews…..This is without taking into account other non-Jewish groups in Israel.   “Jews already lost the supermajority status required for many legislative acts.”  \n\nAnd there are many Israelis classified as Jews who really aren’t.  The Samson Blinded Blog does further voter analysis and concludes that in 18 years the Arabs will have a majority in the Knesset!!!\n\nhttp://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-fifth-column.htm\n\nBut you don’t need to wait 18 years.\n\nThe selective application of the law favoring Arabs and other aspects of politics in the country appear to indicate that the left is implementing a de facto Arab-Leftist state already.\n\nAdd up all the pro-Arab measures taken since the birth of the country and – except for a few steps forward such as the results of the 1967 war - most concessions to the enemy are leading to the transformation of Israel into an Arab state.  This cuts across the whole spectrum of society, from land concessions to cultural and educational policies.\n\nFor all practical purposes, the Arab-Left coalition has already taken over Israel.  They can’t raise the Palestinian flag yet, but the Arabs are feeling pretty self-confident these days\n");
AddReply(320917,"sk, avee, and the $hade$ problem","Dan","Jerusalem","07/06/08","A better venue for demonstrating against $hade$ would be the Bukharan synagogue where I believe he gives a shiur on Motzei Shabbat.\n\nOn the other hand, if the right would insult $hade$, it would turn the traditional Sefardi Jews against the right, because they revere him.\n\nWhy do they revere $hade$ instead of other leading Sefardi Rabbis such as Rav Mordechai Eliyahu, who ruled against expellling Jews ? \n\nPerhaps because $hade$ was funded by the elite and promoted by the media.  The traditional but not dati sefardim do not read right-wing or religious newspapers, but only the mainstream media.\n\nA few years ago, there was a leading Sefardi Rabbi who broke with $ha$ and founded a party, which quickly disappeared.  \n\nI have discussed the problem of $hade$ with various people and they are unwilling to say a bad word about him for fear of insulting a Talmid Chacham.");
AddReply(320902,"what does jerusalem mean anyway?","alef","israel","07/06/08","I agree a 100 percent that the old city should always be in Jewish control. No context. But it is a well known fact, or perhaps not, that when Israel captured Jerusalem in 1967, they increased the borders because they figured the \'West Bank\' would go back to the Jordanians and hence Israel needed a big buffer (this case Jerusalem) between themselves and Jerusalem.\n\nSo when we say a united Jerusalem are we including a whole area that was never historically apart of Jerusalem and just includes hostile Arabs?\n\nI hope not.\n\nThe Jerusalem that is supposed to stay united does not include the Jerusalem today. It is much smaller. I hope you understand that im not being leftist or defeatest but honest to myself of what Jerusalem is. \n");
AddReply(320898,"What about...","Annie B. D. Listning","Ikineerya","07/06/08","On the web, after ironing doing dishes, I found a site saying the NWO and associates planned events according to dates. Dates with \'9\' & \'11\', similtaneously, or summing up 9&11. Examples 9/11/2001; and 3/7/2008.\nThey say that acts of terror are committed on dates like these. Notice 3/7/2008 - 7 2 = 9, 3 8 =11\nThey say these are fingerprints linking various Arab crimes to the NWO. And what about 7/02/2008, well, they say 7 2 =9 and that 3 acts like this have happened within \"11 mos\". They say the police are tied to the NWO. Perhaps the Arab couldn\'t take the strain, panicked, and pulled off the attack one day early. Who knows, 7/03/2008 = 7 2= \"9\", 8 3= \"11\".\nPerhaps we should all examine our calendars for future terrorist dates...");
AddReply(320897,"Comments","Larry","(TA)","07/06/08","I think it is quite likely that this was a setup. I find the familial connection to the Yeshiva murders (Merkaz HaRav), the background of the murderer, and the actions of the police in both cases to be disturbing/coincidental. I live near TA City Hall (though I am in CA for part of the summer), and every time I pass the Rabin Memorial on my way to the nearest caspomat, I am struck by the number of times some delegation or other is being brought to photograph and be photographed by the memorial. Last time included a camera/TV crew, and what appeared to be Israeli officials with security personnel. I passed by, and offered an inquisitive look, and got a cold-eyed stare. The pulchan around Rabin at this late date remains astonishing.\n\nI wish to correct my opinion or earlier comments regarding conspiracies. I do not dismiss them, not even in the case of 9/11. What I do try to do is to get the players, like Tamar, to focus on what we can do to make change, and not empower potential event-manipulators by building them into supermen. If people want to focus on, for instance, 9-11, let them do so, but be aware this is then a life commitment, almost. Is it worth it? Does it lead anywhere; if the purpose is to redeem 2800 victims, okay. But the evidence is contradictory in nearly every detail. The spinners and the anti-spinners, and the theory constructors, and so on spin a web that in the end paralyzes everyone.\n\nI for one do not wish to be paralyzed. \n\nI want to say something else important here - this assumption that I see from the Eliezers and Dans, etc., that the Israeli elites are part and parcel of this grand ongoing plot called the \'illuminati\' or whatever, that\'s a big one. Follow me here. There is no proof that because the left-leaning, free discourse-squeezing elites in Israel squelch real democracy, that this makes Peres a \'servant of the Jesuits\' or Bibi an \'active Mason.\' \n\nIt\'s also possible that some of the folks using Hebrew names to assert these claims are in fact hoping to get Zionist Jews to give up on Israel; after all, if the \'Mossad\' cooperated with the CIA and toppled WTC, why...\n\nWhere is one bleeding concrete piece of evidence that any Mossad people had any connection to that event? There is none. Was it Osama and his merry murdering terrorists? Noone has proved that in any legal way, but the failure to do so does not somehow implicate Bush by default. Want to implicate Bush? Then provide evidence...all the tantalizing tidbits offered so far don\'t really do that.\n\nThe main point is that the Israeli people can seize their future. But they can only do that under certain circumstances: \n\n1. There is a move towards a raised collective political will;\n2. There is some measure of unity in the expression of that will;\n3. Out of these come some real reforms of the system, which many have suggested, with specfics;\n4. This is accomplished without dismembering the society.\n\nAs far as I know, I have never personally met an \'Illuminati\', though I guess they exist. I know of secret societies. I have seen Skull\'n\'Bones flags flying over fancy vacation homes, and I have seen the Masonic imagery that exists in the media, as in the CBS eye, and the Chrysler logo, and so on. But none of this is \'what to focus on.\'\n\nIf Israelis want to be like Arabs, and politically neuter themselves by seeing absolutely everything as conspiracy, then fine. That is exactly what the \'conspirators\' would want, for a frightened populace to see the elites as omnipotent. No point in trying to change things. After all, Sarkozy is a Freemason, the Pope\'s cross is crooked and represents the Jesuits, who \'really\' wrote the \'Protocols\', a proven forgery. On and on. \n\nWas there a conspiracy to murder JFK and are people like Bugliosi and Posner apologists for those who did the deed? Very possibly. But if you want to change Israel, you don\'t much care. If you want to change Israel, you don\'t spend too much time examining the sad personal history of Yigal Amir, or the murky life of Avishai Raviv.\n\nYou get on with it. I wonder, I really wonder, if the right wing can. And I am more and more convinced that the fascination with the \'omnipotence\' of the elites plays right into their hands. ");
AddReply(320892,"Eliezer tries to branch out (29).","sk","USA","07/06/08","As Tamar seems to have introduced a free speech zone, at least on her blog, allow me to share my amazement, Eliezer, that you have actually contributed to any subject other than gay marches.  If you keep branching out, one might eventually be convinced that you gave a damn about Jews and Israel.  Although maybe you just can\'t pass up a conspiracy.\n\nWhile I am gayed out for, I hope, at least a year, I will take this opportunity to innoculate others in anticipation of next year\'s onslaught.\n\nEliezer can\'t bring himself not to implicate gays in some way, they being for him what Jews were for the Tsars.  He does so en passant here.  So, I am linking to an ANNOTATED version of _The Pink Swastika_, where all the plagiarism that Eliezer will perpetrate next year (for he regularly plagiarizes from this source) is debunked.\n\nhttp://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Barracks/8706/\n\nKeep going, Eliezer!  I doubt you are capable of contributing anything, but I have been wrong before.");
AddReply(320870,"Conspiracies, Rule of History, Not Exception.","Eliezer","","07/05/08","Whereas some may define paranoia as the imaginings of an deluded mind, for others it is a higher form of wisdom. One reason the Jews of Europe went so willingly to the slaughter under the guise of being resettled, was they were unwilling to admit or comprehend the so-called ubermenchen were untermenchen who had risen from the darkness to commit mass murder. This same kind of denial prevails in Israel today.\n \nThe same people who brought you the murder of Yitzhak Rabin are today bringing you fear & insecurity, which is their engine of consent - \"tools of the trade\" so to speak. The engineering of pretext for social, political & military action is a modus operandi of the privileged elite. Victimology is also a \"science\" of social control & manipulation. If we are to act measure for measure, we must overcome denial & strive perceive & identify the true nature of a thing or it\'s substance, rather than falling into the warm embrace of its form, like \"work makes free.\" Vigilance is both the price freedom & justice.\n \nThe regressive left of Israel, the legal FICTION, will employ any means, including a sacrifice of it\'s own citizens, to stay on course with it\'s political & ideological agenda & quest for unearned privilege & power - stealing & posturing with the moral symbols, words & conscience of the Jewish people & the history of Jacob\'s Israel. Even evil strives to posture as virtue, thus lulling the people into embracing their own slave master & destroyer. Other engineered pretexts worthy of notice are 9/11, The Reichstag Fire, the Gestapo orchestrated attack on the Radio Station Gliwice in Silesia by (dead) German prisoners dressed as Polish soldiers, which was employed as a pretext for the German invasion of Poland. In fact, Carroll Quigley, Bill Clinton\'s mentor at Georgetown University, reveals in his book Tragedy & Hope, it was a homosexual arson squad drawn from the leadership of the SA that torched the Reichstag in 1933. A Communist, who Quigley refers to as a \"Dutch moron\" was arrested & executed for their crime. By now we have a list of lone assassins & patsies who have served & continue to serve their purpose, including Amir & Oswald. \n\nIf history is any measure, Amir is lucky to still be alive. Maybe he should change his name to \"lucky Amir.\" But then, maybe he shouldn\'t press his luck unless he plans to become a tailor. It seems, not only is history \"written\" by the victors, but also engineered BY them, the truth in-between & absent from the pages.\n \nI believe there is substance to your intuition Tamar. The engineering of pretext & victimology are tools of the Illuminati. The Luciferic Principle, is the \"craft\" of concealing darkness & death in light i.e., war in peace etc. \"Masters\" of the craft reason, \"let us do evil, that good may come.\" Like they say, \"the first casualty of war is truth,\" especially if the war is against your own people.\n");
AddReply(320846,"It sounds like what the gov. did when they ","Melinda Lehan","Smalltown,U.S.","07/05/08","hearded the Indians into small reservations starved them,and controlled people back east with dime store novels and scary newspapers, to master them to get what they wanted the gold the rich land. Then they did it in turn to the farmers with the loans,morgages and taxes taking it from them too. You don\'t have to be a conspiracy expert to see the obvious high level crooks are munipulators of events.");
AddReply(320808,"Division","Carolyn","Florida USA","07/05/08","Tamar, I agree.  I hope you\'re wrong, but I fear you are right.  I pray for Peace in Jerusalem and Israel.  I don\'t want to ever see it divided. G-d Bless you~  Carolyn");
AddReply(320798,"V for the Vatican/ TRUTH!","Joseph A. Cleary","Sand Springs,","07/05/08","Having come from that back round I know the proof is the truth, you have ask just to read a book, any book. It\'s all grilled into you from a very early age. Priests can do no wrong, yet they did, so they were sent ot other parrishes to do exactly the same thing over and over. The new groups that they were sent to weren\'t warned that what they were actually getting were child molesters.\nThe Cardnal that was in control over in the states when he was about to be indited for such was called back to Rome where he was out of the legal reach, it wasn\'t this one that\'s in now it was last one. This one has his own crimes to answer for, as he nor any other who wears those robes should ever be trusted.\nShabbat Shalom, Yosef ");
AddReply(320770,"A gift for Alef","sk","USA","07/04/08","Alef, don\'t say I never give you anything.  The linked article is par for the course in Ynetnewsland.  The paper\'s favorite Arab-Israeli liar, Ali Waked, who wrote first-person accounts of the Gaza Beach Fraud (you know, the one where IDF ships were said to be firing at the poor Fakestinian beachgoers), has a regular task of propagating every sob story imaginable.\n\nThe sinsister ringleader of the English language version of the paper, Chris Barak, has managed to ban me from sending in TBs.  Apparently, I used to cause too much trouble, especially regarding Waked.\n\nWhat do YOU plan to do, concretely this time, about this Fakestinian propaganda organ?\n\nhttp://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3563800,00.html\n");
AddReply(320767,"alef","sk","USA","07/04/08","\"sk, this isnt about you. this concerns the people of Israel. That is the struggle.\"\n\nAgreed.\n\n\"You have said that I have not tried the struggle? How do you know that? Perhaps I do not do it your way, ranting and raving. Have you ever heard of TIMING, STRATEGY, and LEARNING FIRST?\"\n\nI see no evidence of timing, strategy, or learning.\n\n\"You see, I have no desire to learn and listen from you!\"\n\nI see this clearly.  You are stupidly anti-intellectual.  There is a long history of this Israel.\n\n\"I want and I am learning and listening from the people.\"\n\nHow banal.\n\n\"You fail to look at the grand picture. It isnt about Shash and it isnt about Haaretz. Nor is it about Arutz Sheva. It is about us. No paper and politicians can save us. The only ones who can save us is ourselves.\"\n\nCatchprases wrapped in a banality.\n\n[I skip more of the same.]\n\n\"It is up to the collectivity of the Israeli people to decide.\"\n\nCollectivities do not \"decide\" until they are given the opportunity to do so.\n\n\"Any group as your correctly say can help. Any group can give money or lobby a cause. And it is great. But what you miss, is that no group can do the soul searching that the Israeli people have done, are doing, and will continue doing.\"\n\nBanalities, cliches, and evasions.  Oh, and wishful thinking.\n\n\"You have imported your own idea of how things should be and how things should be that you are missing out on loving on \"what is\".\n\nHuh?  I\'m just offering reasoned arguments based on theory, sometimes dressed up as AGITATION to get someone\'s attention.  I consider Israel as it is to be a great tragedy, and it needn\'t be this way.\n\nI am all ears if you have concrete suggestions.");
AddReply(320765,"avee, bro...","sk","USA","07/04/08","... you continue to quibble.  By \"town\" I was writing metaphorically.  I could have said \"enclave\" or \"neighborhood,\" frankly.  I just wanted to emphasize the insular quality of parts of a sprawling Jerusalem.\n\nIf you tell me that those in the Meah Shearim would not mind one bit if $hade$ were insulted, I\'ll believe you.  Hey, you know better than I on such matters.  In that case, differences between the Haredi elites would be highlighted, rather than hushed up by the action.  Nothing wrong with divide and conquer.\n\nHere\'s why I have difficulty taking YOU seriously, avee.  If, say, I lived in Israel, and if I mastered detailed street knowledge, would you \"take me seriously\" enough to engage in any of the tactics I\'m recommending?  Be honest.  And if you would not, what would you suggest as an alternative?  Inaction?  Polite behind-the-scenes meetings (same as inaction)?\n\nThere is an unfortunate Israeli habit of waving a magic wand called aliyah, as if the issues posed by outsiders could be deflected so easily.  I think this is a cop-out.\n\nPlease, bro, learn it already.  There is no magic wand.\n\nI don\'t mean to insult you, avee (you\'d know if I did), but I\'m not into lost causes.  I see ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to work with politically in Israel.  This isn\'t a cop-out.  I\'m just telling you how I see things.");
AddReply(320673,"SK, you still won\'t learn, will you?","avee","jerusalem","07/04/08","SK bro, how many times must you be told to be more humble when lurking here and to only comment on things you know and stay away from commenting on things you have no idea what you are talking about.\n\nHar Nof, where the Rav Ovadia lives is NOT A TOWN.  You don\'t know what you are talking about as I told you.\nHar Nof is a neighborhood in Jerusalem.  Also, your hypothesis that the Jews in Meah Shearim would care about Shas or Rav Ovadia is also *incorrect as usual.  The population in Meah Shearim probably don\'t even like Shas being that it is lead by a Sfardi rabbi and not their own customs or leaders.  They\'d laugh at you (or worse) and kick you in the pants in the right direction towars Har Nof.\n\nSK, give it up and make aliyah.  The only way to really know things is to walk a mile in one\'s shoes. You need to live here with your brothers and then we will take you seriously.   As it is, each comment you post here makes you look more and more ignorant .  Listen to Alef. Even if he is more a lefty than you or me, he still gets my respect as he and I are holding this fort down.  And you? You just make noise from some far off place. \nCome home bro.");
AddReply(320607,"P.S., avee","sk","USA","07/04/08","There would be nothing necessarily wrong with starting the campaign at Har Nof.  Has there been A SINGLE ACTION IN THAT TOWN?  Of course there hasn\'t.");
AddReply(320606,"avee (17), sweetie, don\'t quibble.","sk","USA","07/04/08","You seem to have a recurrent theme in your TBs: sk is ignorant because he\'s not in Israel.  However, to \"prove\" your thesis (which is ridiculous--as if Gibbon couldn\'t know about ancient Rome because he didn\'t live there), you seem to willfully misunderstand my points or quibble about a detail and ignore my argument.\n\nFirst, you don\'t really deny the gist of what I said in #15.  Second, I was not suggesting that one would find Yosef in Meah Shearim.  I had no idea where he lived (now I do, in a enclave of 20,000).  Why would I?  Rather, I suggested the Meah Shearim because it is the center of Haredism in Israel.  Indeed, it\'s better to target him away from his strongest base of support at first, but in an area that would be absolutely outraged nonetheless.  It\'s ridiculous to suggest that a town of 20,000 contains all his followers, by the way.  To implement nonviolent direct action against him in his home, his location would of course be required.  I assume you guys can figure that out; you don\'t me to spoonfeed you.\n\n\"By the way, I don\'t see you in front of the White House or your closest mosque, or anywhere for that matter demonstrating on behalf of the Jewish People.\"\n\nAnd the effect of my doing so would be ... almost nothing.  A feel-good waste of time.  Anyway, *my* government is not expelling me from my home, avee.  I doubt that I have any real impact on Israelis from this A7 perch, but at least I can communicate with you guys directly.\n\n\"So pipe down bro. People who live in glass houses shouldn\'t throw stones.\"\n\nSee above.  Also, Avee, I\'ve done my share of \"actions.\"  I\'m no Larry Kramer or Michelangelo Signorile, but I\'m not just a theorist either.   (M.S. once insisted on a listserve that I was a Republican operative.  I was honored.)\n\n\"Now, go learn your geography.\"\n\nI know mine, thanks.  Since you know yours, may I suggest you put the knowledge to some use?");
AddReply(320596,"Deut. 16:20","tzina","Jerusalem","07/04/08","Justice, Justice Shall Thou Pursue.");
AddReply(320592,"to sk - lose your patience when u want","alef","israel","07/04/08","sk,\nthis isnt about you. this concerns the people of Israel. That is the struggle. \n\nYou have said that I have not tried the struggle? How do you know that? Perhaps I do not do it your way, ranting and raving. Have you ever heard of TIMING, STRATEGY, and LEARNING FIRST?\n\nYou see, I have no desire to learn and listen from you! I want and I am learning and listening from the people. The people who actually live here. The people who matter in the Zionist context. Until you are here, you are not apart of the consensus. \n\nYou fail to look at the grand picture. It isnt about Shash and it isnt about Haaretz. Nor is it about Arutz Sheva. It is about us. No paper and politicians can save us. The only ones who can save us is ourselves. We as a nation, the Am Yisrael nation, need to take a good look at our souls. As to why 75 percent of kids choose the mall as their favorite place to hang out. To how far are we prepared to go for our goals. Will our OPPURTUNITY match our WILLINGNESS. \n\nMany have now, accused me of just using a \'big word\' vocabulary or just plain rhetoric. This ofcourse goes back to my point. Unlike some here, I am not a know it all. I am but one man. It is up to the collectivity of the Israeli people to decide. I know many of you want to think you know what is better for Israel than the Israelis, but I assure you not. \n\n\"Any thirdrate American political group would by now have done much more than you Israelis.\"\n\nAny group as your correctly say can help. Any group can give money or lobby a cause. And it is great. But what you miss, is that no group can do the soul searching that the Israeli people have done, are doing, and will continue doing. \n\nYou have imported your own idea of how things should be and how things should be that you are missing out on loving on \"what is\".\n\n");
AddReply(320584,"SK dahling...  Your ignorance shows.","avee","jerusalem","07/04/08","Why would Jews protesting Shas or Rav Ovadia do it in Meah Shearim?  He doesn\'t live there NOR do his followers.  Rav Ovadia lives in Har Nof.   That\'s where his synagogue is as well.   It shows how much you know, or rather don\'t know.  But of course, you and Mike-y baby are sitting thousands of miles away with the bad judgment of criticizing others.   \n\nReally, you are an intelligent guy, talk about things you KNOW about.  Otherwise, be more humble if you lurk here.\n\nBy the way, I don\'t see you in front of the White House or your closest mosque, or anywhere for that matter demonstrating on behalf of the Jewish People.  So pipe down bro.  People who live in glass houses shouldn\'t throw stones.  Now, go learn your geography.");
AddReply(320583,"Governments using \"Terrrorists\"","Sam Flanagan","Belfast","07/04/08","For those of you who do not believe, \"conspiracy theories\", or that governments manipulate \"terrorists,\" do some research into, \"Freddy Scappattici\" otherwise known as \"Stakeknife.\"\n\nRemember you are either a \"conspiracy theorist\" or a \"coincidence theorist.\" lol");
AddReply(320579,"alef (10), I\'m losing patience with you.","sk","USA","07/04/08","You neither \"try\" nor \"struggle,\" nor does Tamar.  You moved, for your own reasons, to a place where it was tougher to make a nice living than in the US.  Fine. You do get socialized medicine, cheap secular education, and free Torah education for your unsupportably large families.  You get no brownie points for any of it--you chose to move.\n\nBut frankly, you guys don\'t even BEGIN to try to make things better. Even this joke of a newspaper protects missionaries and refuses to print my \"suggestion\" for the extended family of the tractor terrorist.\n\nThere has not been a SINGLE SETTLERFOLK MARCH THROUGH THE MEA SHEARIM dedicated to humilating $hade$ of $ha$ for his villainy.  NOT ONE MARCH.\n\nYOU and your secular buddies haven\'t EVEN ONCE done ONE BIT of NONVIOLENT DIRECT ACTION against Haaretz biggies.  NOT ONCE.\n\nDon\'t make me laugh with your pious denunciations.  Any thirdrate American political group would by now have done much more than you Israelis.");
AddReply(320574,"and mike, one other thing...","yehuda","","07/03/08","you made a comment on an earlier blog that was never clarified. the druze are, in fact, muslim. they are arab as well. druze, in general, are simply loyal to the country that they live in, regardless of who it is. that said, do you recall the incidents in peki\'in?");
AddReply(320573,"to alef....","yehuda","","07/03/08","there\'s no use trying. mike doesn\'t agree that \"tov lamut ba\'ad artzenu.\" he just wants everyone else to do it for him. so he\'s going to come up with some great line about how it\'s \"suicide to be in the land right now,\" or some bull like that (who wants to take bets on this one?) and still try to convince you that \"medinat yehudah is the only way, because medinat yisrael has failed.\"\n\ni pray for the poor lost soul who calls himself mike from vienna. i really do.");
AddReply(320572,"shut up, mike.","yehuda","","07/03/08","mike, call it whatever the heck you want. all you\'re saying is that the government needs an overhaul. and here\'s the best part: NO ONE DISAGREES!");
AddReply(320566,"Mike, 6, Momma raised a US Marine...","Rob","usa","07/03/08","I don\'t need no stinking rescue..");
AddReply(320545,"to mike - coffeshop (tamar please read too)","alef","","07/03/08","to mike,\n\nlisten, your what i call a \"coffee shop revolutionary\"  but in your case \"Arm chair revolutionary\" because coffee shops are a hellenist invention. Can you use arm chairs in your fascist theocratic vision?\n\nGUESS WHAT MIKE? TAMAR, MYSELF, AND ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE ARE NOT PERFECT. But, and this is a big but! At least we TRY...At least in our lifetimes we can look back and say to ourselves \"at least we TRIED\". Me, Tamar, and whoever else is here in Israel may disagree with each other. Such as the Gay Pride Parade or even Borders. But at least we have tried to make the best out of what we have. And that says alot more than just writing a blog about some fantasy \'state\' based on the theocratic rule of Mike. \n\nThere is an ocean seperating the views of Tamar and I. But we have at least one thing in common. We know what it is like to struggle in this land. We know what it is like to look out at the beautiful nature here and see G-d. We know the tears from pain from the hard times and laughter from the good.\n\nAnd this is something your missing out on. You can make 1,000,000 good points and accurate opinions. But until you get off your behind and start to TRY yourself, you will never be on OUR level!\n\nAlef");
AddReply(320538,"I presume Chamish must be all over this story","Velvel","silver spring","07/03/08","He always insists that the terrorist attacks are engineered or otherwise enabled or allowed by Shabak in order to \'dupe\' the Jews into irrationally demanding what the elites wanted from the beginning and what is NOT beneficial to the populace.   Ie, the \"wall\" which set boundaries for a Fakestinian state, was packaged as a \'security measure\' so the rightwing went on board and insisted it be built.  Even tho it established a de facto Moslem terror state\'s boundaries.   ANother example, Baruch Goldstein as the excuse for Israel to abandon Hevron.  Show that there is violence that can\'t be stopped and insist to the public the only solution is to give it to one or the other (always given to Arabs tho).\n\nSame here.   Create violence in precisely the city they wish to divide.  In reaction to terrorist attack, have a few politicians call for a \"fence\" to prevent attacks from the part they wish to give away.   Eventually more attacks, and more people get on board.   Suddenly a fence is built and you already have \"East Jerusalem\" - the new capital of an Arab Muslim Nazi terrorist state, with boundaries already in place, and Jews likely strongarmed to leave by \"autonomous\" plo rule.  After that the official documents and handover is merely a technicality.");
AddReply(320515,"I do believe in conspiracies","Michelle","Vancouver","07/03/08","Often people are used as a means to an end.  Sometimes they are aware of it, sometimes not.  \n\nIn the case of the Arab terrorists, maybe someone they did not know was really pulling the strings.\n\n(As an aside on people being manipulated – how about the way the guerrilla camp in Colombia was infiltrated and the hostages so easily rescued?  The guerrillas were duped and never knew what hit them until the helicopter had already left.)  \n\nBack to Israel.  I too was extremely suspicious after the attack in the Yeshiva, when I read about the passivity with which the police reacted to the shooting (directing traffic!).  It\'s like they did not really want to interrupt the carnage.  \n\nSame thing yesterday.... Just making a show of getting involved.\n\nAnd let’s not forget the police shameful behavior in Judea and Samaria, taking the Arab side in every confrontation.\n\nWhat are the orders given to police???  \n\nI really would like to have one policeman - just one with a conscience - step up and tell the country what those instructions really are.\n\nTamar, you\'re onto something.  \n\nActually, the whole political picture in Israel is just one big conspiracy against the Jews.  \n\nWhat better way to reverse the act of creating Israel than to have the Jews themselves do it?  \n\nOut of greed (every politician has a price).  \n\nOut of timidity (by being bullied by others).  \n\nOut of fear of police investigations (there’s plenty to worry about inside their closets).  \n\nOut of practical concerns (cheaper to give up Gaza than to patrol it, particularly since those being protected were settlers).  \n\nOut of irrational hatred (better surrender the heartland than to let those settlers prosper).\n\nIsraelis have been and continue to be manipulated by anti-Jewish interests, some right in the Knesset and the Courts, and the rest in other organizations.  It’s a spider web whose center may be in the White House or other place of power and with tendrils reaching over almost every official activity in Israel.\n\nIn my heart, the real Jewish heroes are the religious Zionists because they have a clear vision of what they want based on the wisdom of millennia.  And it’s a vision in harmony with solid spiritual values that connect the land of Israel and G-d.  \n\nThey courageously carry on, often as lone individuals (as was the case in both recent terrorist attacks in Jerusalem), fighting against the Arabs AND all those behind the plot to deprive Jews of their land.\n\nI hope yesterday’s act of heroism finally opens the eyes of enough Israelis so that they can realize who’s really on their side.\n\nAnd now let’s not dismiss any theory of conspiracy.  In no other country in the world are the government along with politicians and local “human rights organizations” working so enthusiastically together with the aim of surrendering their own land to the enemy.  And without firing a shot!  Does that seem normal to you?\n");
AddReply(320494,"Uh, Tamar?  You usually LOVE conspiracies ...","sk","USA","07/03/08","... which you assert to be based on facts.  However, in this case, I don\'t think there\'s much doubt that the Olmerts are either conspiring or facilitating exactly what you suggest.  Because of Barak, ilmert has three months or so to give the Left something that will keep him in power, which means one would expect an acceleration of peace processing.  See Klein\'s last two blog entries for ilmert\'s apparent strategy and some of his tactics so far.\n\nOf course, if Israelis, including the settlerfolk, weren\'t so easy to manipulate, and so deeply selfish for each of their little subcommunities, ilmert could not hope to succeed.");
AddReply(320491,"Gee, Rob, it sounds like you want to sit on your duff...","Mike","Vienna, VA","07/03/08","...and wait for Moshiach to come and rescue you by a miracle.  You\'ll be waiting a very long time.\n\nThe Eda Haredit will welcome you, I am sure.");
AddReply(320477," About many of Mikes ideas......","Rob","usa","07/03/08","These are the tried and true methods of amelek and esau which include the planting of roadside explosives, and murdering the evil \"israelis\" and perhaps even a few innocents.\n\nIn mikes world there is no room for tea toddlers of Torah, one could be killed for breaking Shabbot, blown to bits for not observing to his standard.\n\nMike would have all good Jews stand up to the kings of the earth when the Sages are clear there will come a Moshiach that will lead us in battle against our enemies, A battle in which we will utterly destroy them.\n\nWe, Hashems servants, are not finished paying for the worlds sins. Get a clue Mike...");
AddReply(320453,"Something to think about.","yeshaguy","","07/03/08","You raise very good questions. Let\'s keep our eyes open.\n\nThey told us when we left Gaza/Gush Katif that we would have peace and security.  Now they want us to leave eastern Jerusalem...   ...seems to be a link.\n  \n");
AddReply(320444,"Mike rants?","Mike","Vienna, VA","07/03/08","Gee, how weird!  Mike\'s so-called \"rants\" seem to be spot on!\n\nBy the way, the best line in the movie is: \"This mask is not flesh, it is an idea... And ideas are bulletproof\".\n\nIt is THIS that the totalitarian dictators always forget.  They could kill Meir Kahane and Baruch Kahane and thousands of lesser men.  But they cannot kill an IDEA.  Medinat Yehudah will be free.  And the day will come when Jewish children in the schools of Judah learn about the illegitimate hellenist entity called \"Medinat Israel\" that once existed in the Holy Land.");
AddReply(320430,"It will give mike something else to rant about","Rob","usa","07/03/08","");
AddReply(320425,"Tamar, the authorities DID know about this Arab","Jew","in Israel","07/03/08","Here is a news piece on him. The authorities did have something on him.\n\n\nJerusalem terrorist previously convicted of raping Jewish girl\n\nPublished:  07.02.08, 23:49 / Israel News  \n\nPolice reported that the terrorist who carried out the attack in Jerusalem on Wednesday, Hossam Dawyyat, was convicted in 2001 of raping a Jewish girl with whom he had a romantic relationship. He was sentenced to two years in prison. \n \nAfter his release from prison Dawyyat married an Arabic woman. (Efrat Weiss) \n\n******************\n");

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