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AddReply(321062,"Why thank you, Robdude.","sk","USA","07/06/08","");
AddReply(320901,"Sk (40) I tip my hat to you buddy!","Rob","usa","07/06/08","You are turning into a first class anti- missionary, and the way you can hurl an insult without using foul language? you are an inspiration!  double LOL !");
AddReply(320610,"Leviticus, dear ...","sk","USA","07/04/08","You\'re either a fishface (which IS a Christian) or a yorid (evidence for which is your crummy English).  In the latter case you\'re in no position to be throwing stones, dear, and should ascend forthwith, as your presence in the US is a great sin.\n\nI think you\'re lying though.  You seem to have a Christian soul.\n\nOh by the way, I do not deny that I am sodomite; I simply deny that you have an IQ over 90.\n\nXOXOXO,\n\nsk");
AddReply(320298,"To sk -USA","Leviticus ","America","07/03/08","Below is the text sk-USA directed to me in (its) earlier post.\n\n32. ooooooh, the Xian (31) quotes Leviticus!\n\nIsn\'t it clever of you to quote Leviticus (which is part of the \"Old Testament\" for you Fishfaces). I mean, sure Tamar quoted it (the other of two references to man-on-man action), but why not again? You\'re very original.\n\nThis is my response to sk-USA\n\nTo sk -USA\n\nYour arrogant, self centered, incorrect idiot spew of text you posted in your childish attempt to insult me for quoting from Leviticus is a clear indication that you are a sodomite.\n\nAnd furthermore,\n\nI am not a fish face,\n\nAnd I am not an Xtian.\n\nYou need to repent!");
AddReply(319708,"Sk, You Hooligan!","Rob","usa","07/01/08","");
AddReply(319325,"sk 32: lol!","Velvel","silver spring","06/30/08","");
AddReply(319312,"P.S. to Shoshana","sk","USA","06/30/08","Don\'t expect me to bother with your response (if you make one).  I\'ve had enough with things gay for, oh, a year.");
AddReply(319311,"Shoshana, dear ...","sk","USA","06/30/08","I hope you\'re not a yorid.  You know what an averah that is.\n\nRegardless, I\'d high tail it out of UK before you see what real evil is about (hint, it bows to Mecca).\n\nLove,\n\nsk");
AddReply(319305,"Watch what you wish for...","Paul S.","Toronto, Canada","06/30/08","...you may get it.  I am of two minds when it comes to criticizing the homosexuals\' march in Jerusalem.  On one hand, it shows a disrespect for the religious element in the city for them to march in front of them in a spirit of defiance.  On the other hand, I feel that to ban the march sends the wrong message.  Are we not big enough to allow a few marginalized outsiders a chance to express themselves in a peaceful manner without our getting our shirts in a knot?  Let us not get self-righteous.  I am reminded that there are extremist elements among our own Jews who think Arutz Sheva is the devil\'s instrument.  Why?  Because you allow women\'s voices on the radio.  Some extremists believe that a woman\'s voice in public (i.e. over the airwaves) constitutes a breach of good order and therefore should not be allowed.  So before we feel all puffed up with righteousness in condemning the faigelehs (homosexuals), remember that there are some who would like to ban women from the media in Israel and turn the country into a kind of \"Jewish Taliban\".  What\'s next?  Fishman\'s dream comes true and we stand in front of every doorway measuring the length of every woman\'s skirt (no trousers allowed) and punish severely those who commit crimes against tzniut (the rules of modesty)?  Do you want to see that?  A kind of fashion-based Spanish Inquisition?  Can\'t happen, you say?  Really.  Always remember the words of Martin Niemoller (slightly abriged here): First they came for the Jews, but I didn\'t care, for I was not a Jew (he then mentions the same formula for several other groups he did not belong to), but when they came for me, there was no one left to speak up for me.\nBottom line:  Let a few faigelehs march (as long as they don\'t break the law), and you women of Arutz Sheva will still have jobs there in the future, for no one will be able to say that women don\'t belong on the air, and make it come to pass.\nThe price of freedom is sometimes to allow a few nuts a chance to see the light of day, so that you can still breathe free air.");
AddReply(319272,"Jerusalem","Shoshana","London","06/30/08","The people of the impure parade have no respect for the sanctity of Jerusalem or for the wishes of the residents who wish to protect themselves and their children from evil. The only power these evil people have is through manipulation and abuse. Like Korach they defy Hashem. Hashem always responds.");
AddReply(319262,"ooooooh, the Xian (31) quotes Leviticus!","sk","USA","06/30/08","Isn\'t it clever of you to quote Leviticus (which is part of the \"Old Testament\" for you Fishfaces).  I mean, sure Tamar quoted it (the other of two references to man-on-man action), but why not again?  You\'re very original.\n\nFirst things first, though. I\'m willing to be corrected on this, but I believe that Torah prescribes expulsion or slaughter for goyim who live in the land but do not except Jewish rule.  I\'m sure that this too is a high priority for you.  I recommend we start with the missionaries in Jerusalem.  Surely you agree.");
AddReply(319229,"Leviticus 20:13","Leviticus ","America","06/29/08","Leviticus 20:13\n\nIf a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination, they shall surely be put to death, their blood shall be upon them.\n\nBeing politically correct is opposite of being Biblically correct.\n\nThe sodomites hijacked the word \"gay\" in their vile attempt to cloak their perverted behavior.\n\nThey learned that technique from crooked politicians.\n\nThey are sodomites, they are not gay.\n\nIsrael should arrest them all.\n\nThey are immoral and perverted.\n\n");
AddReply(319205,"Well thank you, Tamar (28)","sk","USA","06/29/08","");
AddReply(318972,"Works for me, Rachel (27), but ...","sk","USA","06/29/08","...  the question is where to hold it.  I suggest holding it where it will actually annoy people.\n\nSo, who really works against the settlerfolk?  Who especially wants to sell them out?  The Left, the Haredim, and of course the Arabs.\n\nRemember, if you do this right, you will be viciously condemned.  Outrage will spew from the mouths of your detractors.  Others will tell you that it\'s important to be respectful, to be media savvy.  But you will have anticipated both groups.  You will realize that being nice and respectful means that nothing will change.  So, you will have your banners plastered on the monstrous Muslim structures on the Temple Mount (you\'ll need some good tacticians for this, though).\n\nYou will be have posters with R. O. Yosef in a keffiyah smiling and looking longingly in Olmert\'s eyes.  Oh, stick the Lithuanian moneybags there as well.  The Mea Shearim will never be the same.\n\nAnd where, oh where, should you be in Tel Aviv.  North, you say?  Yes.  .  But a beach \"integration\" might be a nice touch as well.  There, you will show your media savvy by avoiding settler drag as much as possible and hanging out at the beach with the seculars.  You will show that you like to have a good time too.  You may need to find some somewhat secular Yeshites, though.  It\'s politics.  And of course, you will be infiltrating the Israel Stock Exchange and badmouthing companies that work against settler interests.  If you\'re lucky, the stock will plunge.  And there are all those leftist newspapers.  When was the last time a Yeshite broke up a newspaper board meeting?\n\nThe possibilites are endless.\n\nDon\'t worry--there will be plenty of settlerfolk who will make nice in your wake.  They will dissapprove of your actions.  Suddenly, these fine upstanding settlerfolk will be attended to most respectually in the media.\n\nGood luck.");
AddReply(318933,"SK - I took your mussar (ethical point)","tamaryonah","","06/28/08","I read what you wrote and your point that the title of the blog entry may be mis-read at first (even though in the text I explained it was watchers/onlookers).  So,  just to make sure, i went and added the word \'watch\' to the end of the title, so it would be 100% clear for those who don\'t bother reading the piece or just scan too fast through it.\n\nThank you, SK,  for letting me clarify.\nTamar");
AddReply(318929,"A YOSH Pride Parade","Rachel Singer","isReal","06/28/08","I think the residents of Yehuda and Shomron should have their own YOSH Pride Parade.\n\nAnd/or, a \"Israelis who Love Israel\" Parade.\n\nThere has to be more publicity given to the majority of people who live in Israel who love this country, want to defend it and don\'t want to give pieces of it away.  And this kind of parade should be open to everyone -- not just the religious nationalists. \n\nThere are plenty of right-wing secularists out there, they just keep a low profile for some reason. Their voices need to be heard!\n");
AddReply(318925," Its grieving to think that unG-dly","SATCH","UK","06/28/08"," parades are allowed in Yarushaliem the Holy city of Hashem.  Violators of sexual laws will be judged and punished for their blindness and fleshly actions involving young innocent children as spectaters seeing blantant rejection of G-ds Word!   Pride is something to be glorified--distorted words like \'gay\' are not happy in G-ds eyes.  Grey or black just shows the lack of the brightness and Glory of Hashem...  Blinded in darkness is a good term for homosexuals whose vow at marriage \"till death us do part\"  is death to any offspring they can\'t have as compared to hetrosexualls.  If this was Old Testament times, fire would have fallen from heaven consuming them All  that were defacing the Holy City with sinful demonstrations in the parade.  The author of this blog cannot be on every street when giving a report but has always been honest in her views and testimony sharing with us what she sees.  Condimnation will be heavy on the heads of those so quick to judge and I pray G-d be merciful to those with so loose a tongue that cannot be contained!   My prayer is that very soon the temple will stand and the G-d of Abraham will reign supreme as we go to visit Him who will rule the world in righteousness from Jerusalem.  \'Be Ye Holy as I Am Holy\' is the wish that we should strive for and find love in our hearts rather than hatred, [even for our enemies]   Shalom");
AddReply(318893,"Homosexual parade","Calvin Fowler","NYC","06/28/08","I like your thoughts on the subject Tamar! Its great that almost no one came to gawk at the dysfunctional people flaunting their immorality and insecurity! If the law makers in Israel weren\'t SO immoral themselves they would not allow such abominations anywhere in Israel and especially in Yerushalayim! These things are just the sorts of things which have brought judgement upon Israel. I wonder what King David would do in such a situation hmm?");
AddReply(318886,"I\'m glad","Carolyn ","Florida, USA","06/28/08","Hi Tamar- I\'m glad therewas very little onlooker support for the parade.  I can\'t really tell from the pictures, but it seems that many of the participants didn\'t look as crazy as they do in some pride parades in the States.  I do hope they will realize that they aren\'t as self important as they want to be~ maybe next year they will stay home.  We can always hope ;-)      G-D Bless you~  Carolyn");
AddReply(318869,"Rainbow","David in California","Modesto","06/28/08","How is God\'s promise to Noah being used as a symbol to excuse being a butt pirate? ");
AddReply(318798,"Tamar (12)","sk","USA","06/27/08","\"Sk, I am guilty of not adding on to this piece above that there WERE indeed counter demonstrations. However, they were taking place on other streets.\"\n\nEXCELLENT.  I see this was also reported at Ynet (which I don\'t read as a rule because I can\'t stand its leftist slant).  There should have been counter-demonstrations.  However, I am a bit unhappy that the counter-demonstrators needed to be on other streets.  Do you have any numbers?\n\nOh, and your photos weren\'t quite honest.  You did indeed leave the impression that few marchers turned up.  Please try to be objective in covering the facts of an event.\n\n\"There were men there dressed up as women with dresses on and heavy make up and wigs. I have a photo of one of them who was at the lead of the parade if you want to see it, but I didn\'t post it.\"\n\nYeah, sorry about that.  I\'ve given up trying to convince organizers that drag is a bore and useless.  The standard argument is that it shows defiance and pride.  Gay politicos seem unable to grasp the fact that one can be gay in different ways.  Frankly, it\'s part of the entertainment for the marchers, though, and something familiar to them.  If you hang out in a typical gay bar, you\'ll find that drag is typically the entertainment.  It\'s rarely done well, and is a big snooze.  The wet jockey shorts contests aren\'t much better.  You\'re dealing with the average Moshe, and what counts as fun is naturally dumbed down.\n\nSan Francisco actually has some excellent drag, as does NYC.  Everywhere else, yuk!\n\nOne time I visited a gay restaurant/club in Barcelona, though, which had very serious entertainment (acrobatics along a narrow corridor, for example) and was most pleased.\n\nAlso, in fairness, I once visited a bar in Mykonos that had comfy lounge furniture and played classical music (until very late, when the boss left for the day).  The vast plate glass window in the main room showed a dazzling view of the Aegean.\n\n\"As for them not parading partially nude, they already have, which i witnessed, although they are still afraid at this juncture and are being very careful to dress more modestly in Jerusalem at this time. However, if allowed to go on, and if they feel less threatened, it is only a matter of time until the Tel Aviv and International world style comes to Jerusalem.\"\n\nSo were they partially nude or not in J, and what counts as \"partially nude,\" and how many were partially nude?  \n\nLook, Tamar, my preference (not that the organizers care) would be for a boisterous parade without drag, and with marchers fairly modestly clothed (though they needn\'t dress like the Orthodox).  I hope that Jerusalem Pride never looks like Tel Aviv Pride, and you can count my complaining if it does.  Having said that, when the Orthodox and Ultras are in Tel Aviv, they are not expected to dress like Tel Avivans.  Learn some tolerance.\n\n\"SK, I believe your heart is mostly in the right place. Why not just admit that this behavior and \'forced in your face\' deviant sexual parades are not appropriate? Sex and sexual behaviors belong in the bedroom, not the streets.\"\n\nWhy not admit, Tamar, that heteros flaunt their heterosexuality every day of the year?  We are not talking about gay live sex acts, after all.  THAT would be inappropriate.  You seem to have this idea that everyone should kowtow to your own beliefs.  How many times do I have to make this point before you process it?");
AddReply(318797,"Hey aviva - why make it religious/non religious issue","Velvel","silver spring","06/27/08","I have news for you.  The vast majority of straight people do not want this.   Perhaps the religious are the only ones willing to actually fight for it, but don\'t delude yourself.  \n\nThe same is true in the US.   Nobody here wants \"religious law\" yet the vast majority of straight people, regardless of religion, are opposed to the gay lobby and gay culture.\n\nHere in the states, we now have the transsexual lobby to contend with.   They (the liberal democrats and fake republicans on behalf of the transexual lobby) are making public bathrooms co-ed.  This is what happens.  First you let them march, tell them their condition is \"ok\" and \"normal\" etc, then come the demands.  Now they want the rest of the population indoctrinated to believe it\'s normal.  And to share bathrooms of different sex and enable rapists all in the name of \"tolerance\" and \"multiculturalism.\"\n\nPerhaps you should retitle your post to shame on the \"straight bigots.\"  No, shame on the \'gay bigots\' and the \'transsexual bigots\' trying to force me to adopt their definition of what is normal and what isn\'t.  How bout them apples aviva?");
AddReply(318787,"Hey Daniel, that was brilliant.","Velvel","silver spring","06/27/08","That was a great idea, my friend.  When the police force are out in thousands to \"protect\" gay parades, that is a perfect opportunity for the settlers to build a large outpost with a coordinated effort or some other activity that the establishment usually frowns on......   not a bad idea.");
AddReply(318786,"avee (8, 10)","sk","USA","06/27/08","Avee, I was referring to the caption of this blog, \"the parade that nobody came to.\"  I take it as both a bit of spin on Tamar\'s part and a Freudian slip.\n\nThe worst nightmare of an organizer is that there are no marchers at one of these events.  The next worst nightmare is that the attendance is going down over time. I\'m not trying to spin this event.  I\'m just saying that the trend is positive from an organizer\'s perspective, especially because the number of police is now well below the number of marchers (I think it went from something like 10,000 to 2,000, but don\'t quote me).  I am also pointing out that all of this was coordinated behind the scenes in a fairly effective manner.  Any organizer worth his weight has a long time horizon.\n\nBTW, the Tel Aviv marches are, from an American perspective, sparsely attended.\n\nI agree that the ultimate goal is large numbers of bystanders, but this cannot occur without stubstantial numbers of participants.\n\nI also congratulate Open House on apparently minimizing the anti-Jewish-Israel, pro-Fakestinian slant.  Maintaining a narrow focus is very difficult for these groups because of the quasi-Marxist ideology of the hardcore.");
AddReply(318762,"To #4: Yes, the courts will always back you...","Mike","Vienna, VA","06/27/08","...this is why we will win. \n\nOppression causes resistance.  The same blind \"judges\" who go against the will of the people today will bewail their innocence before the cold eyes of revolutionary tribunals tomorrow.  Even as young men with orange armbands drag them away to be shot, they will still protest their innocence under meaningless goyish laws.\n\nBizrat Hashem, it won\'t be long now.  Maybe another decade or two, unless the Israelis succeed in their plan to start a Second Holocaust.  In that case, the \"judges\" will be simply massacred by their Moslem \"friends\", still bewilderedly wailing \"but all we wanted was peace and equality!\"");
AddReply(318712,"Gays","Anat","Israel","06/27/08","Did Bruce Cohen\'s bride/groom convert? If so, that could be a problem since cohenim cannot marry converts! Another thing, what Jewish mother dreams of her son growing up to be a homo or her daughter a lesbian? This is just another tragedy for the Jewish People. We already have a too low birthrate due to assimilation, intermarriage, birth control, and just not getting married and having children. As is known, homosexuals do not have a high birth rate (and it\'s better that way!).");
AddReply(318684,"CA Homosexual Marriage Law","Yechiel","Los Angeles","06/27/08","I would urge the rabbanim and people of Israel, as well as Nahum Liss, not to honor the Evil Mayor of Los Angeles, Antonio Villaraigosa, or his disgusting, fawning good buddy and sidekick, so called orthodox rabbi, \"Let\'s kick the Jews out of Gush Katif\" Marvin Hier. \n\nI am speaking about the Security contract for LAX which Villaraigosa is begging Israel to implement. Villaraigosa has just proven he is a true supporter of California\'s New Homosexual Marriage Law by marrying Jewish man Bruce Cohen to his lover Gabriel Catone at City Hall in a Champaigne Affair. There was one casaulty, however, a Christian woman protester was thrown out by the mayor\'s Security.\n\n While, the Mayor\'s buddy and capo sidekick Rabbi Hier was not at the wedding, he gladly capitulated with his absolute silent approval of California\'s new Law of Perversion. \n\nWell, we know if Villaraigosa and Rabbi Marvin Hier decide to marry each other who will be the husband and who will be the wife. Oh by the way, I believe it is time for this moronic, chuzpadik so called orthodox rabbi to stop representing \"Shoah victims\". After all, these precious Jewish Martyrs died \"Kiddush Hashem\", while Hier by even continuing to call himself a \"rabbi\" becomes a \"Chillul Hashem\" with every breath he takes. \n\nSo to sum up---No Security Agreement with Israel for Villaraigosa, and someone needs to kick Hier\'s tuches out of the Wiesenthal Center. Yechiel--LA Jew4Truth@aol.com ");
AddReply(318677,"best response","TK","Florida","06/27/08","I  was taught the best way to deal with a bully was to ignore their  \ntaunts. When they see they can\'t get a reaction, they move on. The  \nparaders must have been very disappointed to not have an audience for  sure. \n\nWhy flaunt when there\'s no one to notice? Ignore them and  eventually the\'ll give up since the whole parade idea is to get a  \nreaction and start a \"dialogue.\" \n\n\n");
AddReply(318676,"did somebody die?","ellen","Golan Heights","06/27/08","What\'s with the somber faces, dark-T-shirts and sunglasses?\n\nBased on the pictures posted here and on various newsites, as well as the relatively low attendence reported, I would say this was a relatively straight gay parade (compared with previous bombastic years) - a \"Gray Parade\".  But, hey, gray is an Ok.color\n\nColor experts describe it as \"a neutral, balanced, cool, conservative color that seldom evokes strong emotion although it can be seen as a cloudy or moody color.\"\n\nJust goes to show that gays can be straight ...in Jerusalem.\n\nWhat a drag...\n\nI guess Jerusalem just isn\'t the place for a Gay Parade.\n\n");
AddReply(318668,"How Many Battles","Larry","(TA)","06/27/08","Can people fight at once. Tamar, you\'re going after the \'NWO\', the gov\'t, the gays all at once. Until Dan can find a gay NWO pilot shooting missiles into settlements, it seems like an overreach. AIDs is the best, also saddest, evidence of this life style, and is similar to the afflictions that hit profligate heterosexuals, including venereal disease and drug addiction. Of course, it makes sense to write and lobby against such parades, but it is a minor problem compared to the attempts to give up Judea and Samaria and get nothing instead. Yes, the \'rainbow\' public lifestyle advocated by the city of Tel Aviv can be tied to unJewish values and the entire political scene. But you have to pick your battles. \n\nThen again, there is the exaggerated sense of self-righteousness we see among many comments here, as well as the idiot comments by those like YBY. People using religion as a cloak for some personal vendetta. Gays don\'t have it easy, and promiscuous gays have a terrible fate in the end. I don\'t think more need be said about it.");
AddReply(318665,"to SK, some corrections on mistakes you wrote","tamaryonah","","06/27/08","Sk, I am guilty of not adding on to this piece above that there WERE indeed counter demonstrations.  However, they were taking place on other streets.\n\nThere was a large demonstration at kikar Shabbat in Jerusalem and also Jews gathered at kikar Paris (Paris square) on Keren HaYesod street.\n\nYou wrote:  \"Tamar also omits other things, though. Note that there was no partial nudity and nothing particularly outrageous.\"\n\nThere were men there dressed up as women with dresses on and heavy make up and wigs.  I have a photo of one of them who was at the lead of the parade if you want to see it, but I didn\'t post it.\n\nAs for them not parading partially nude, they already have, which i witnessed, although they are still afraid at this juncture and are being very careful to dress more modestly in Jerusalem at this time.  However, if allowed to go on, and if they feel less threatened, it is only a matter of time until the Tel Aviv and International world style comes to Jerusalem.  I ALSO have photos of those parades with topless women in Tel viv\'s parades, but of course I could not post those.\n\nSK, I believe your heart is mostly in the right place.  Why not just admit that this behavior and \'forced in your face\'  deviant sexual parades are not appropriate?  Sex and sexual behaviors belong in the bedroom, not the streets.\n\nI still love you. \ntamar\n");
AddReply(318663,"AIDS increases in Israel just last year, after the ...","David","Jslm","06/27/08","after the WORLD pride came here to parade and strut their pink stuff.  I remember in addition to their parade which was in the end penned up at the university stadium, they had parties and a whole week of \'celebrations\'.  \n\nThose \'celebrations\' and parties spread their AIDS and more Israelis.  \n\nTake a look:\nhttp://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/148965\n\nHomosexuals Struck with More AIDS Cases\n\n\n(IsraelNN.com) The number of homosexuals in Israel who have AIDS increased last year after previous declines. The contagious and potentially fatal disease is relatively common among those who practice homosexuality, which is prohibited by the Bible.\n\nThe Health Ministry reported that 5,300 AIDS cases were reported in 2007. \n\n\n");
AddReply(318662,"To SK, wrong again, but you are so very far away","avee","jerusalem","06/27/08","This is a perfect example of someone sitting off from afar trying to act like they know things when they are arm chair critics only.\n\nSee my comment (somewhere above this one) which says that Tamar stated there were a handful only of parade \"watchers\", not \"marchers\".  In any case, I estimate only between 2000-3000 marchers were there.  There were probably as many police.  The police were on every corner.\n\nAs for your statement \"Activists are primarily concerned with turning out the marchers, not with bystanders.\"   this is a lame defense. Parades without bystanders to watch it are considered a flop, a failure. Parades, in order to be successful, need to draw the crowds!!!!!!!!  Seems this is the third or fourth year in a  row that it failed to do just that.  If this were any other parade, the city wouldn\'t  be ordered by the courts to waste anymore tax payer $$$ or shekels or security man hours.\n\nThe other part of what you wrote re the right wing may be more or less correct though.  The right wing in israel seems to fail at PR and needs some help.  Why not come here and contribute?  You seem to have something you can offer.");
AddReply(318659,"#4 Aviva Shame on Self-Righteous Exhibitionists!","yonatan","jerusalem","06/27/08","You need to move to San Francisco! Israel is a Jewish (as in Jewish values) country and will stay that way. Hashem will always back us!");
AddReply(318657,"Hey #2, that\'s not what she said!","avee","jerusalem","06/27/08","Tamar didn\'t say that there were no marchers.  She wrote that there were very few onlookers/public audience.  \n\nI saw the parade as I was walking to synagogue for mincha and estimate there were between 2000 -3000 people who marched, a not so respectable turn out when you consider all the tax dollars and security forces they used to make their un-holy display.  ");
AddReply(318643,"Comment to sk: My take on this","Daniel","Kyoto","06/27/08","sk: First, what you say is interesting, and you make a lot of good points.\nI completely agree that the way the \"religious\" are dealing with the situation is very bad. They are giving money, legitimacy, and prestige to exactly those organs of Medinat Yisrael that would destroy them.\nOn the other hand, there are ways to turn this to our advantage. The \"security forces\" are stretching themselves, therefore times like \"pride parades\" are optimal for direct action to retake the initiative in Israel. For instance, action in Yesha to settle Eretz Yisrael, or something more direct, or both. I\'m sure many people could be better tactical planners than I can be in a talkback, but surely this is the correct course if we want any chance at all of making a fight of it- to seize tactical opportunities.");
AddReply(318642,"\"Nobody\" showed up?  Are gays not even 3/5 of a person, Tamar?","sk","USA","06/27/08","Since Tamar seems unable to report properly on today\'s event or to put it in context, I suppose I should do her job for her, even though, as I\'ve said repeatedly, I think the frenzied coverage is a ridiculous waste of time and a comfy diversion from Grand Issues that she doesn\'t want to confront.\n\nNote, I won\'t bother to nail down exact dates.  (I could be precise if I wanted to do the research.)  Rather, I\'ll focus on the big picture.  I have not consulted the one gay political contact I have in Israel because then I couldn\'t write freely here (he is a leftist).\n\nAbout four years ago, a Haredi counterdemonstrator stabbed a few gay participants at a Jerusalem pride march.  This apparently led to a decision to hold World Pride in Jerusalem the following year.  This march did not happen, but was resceduled for the next year, but it was then essentially replaced by an Israeli (as opposed to \"world\") march, which ended up in a stadium.  The reason for this move was nonstop Haredi rioting throughout Jerusalem.\n\nEvidently, there was an understanding with the police and Bolshevik elites that the stadium gathering in lieu of the march was a one-time affair, made necessary because the police were caught flat-footed.  The next year, there was a real march, but it was very poorly attended.  This year, the attendance increased substantially (3000 is not a bad turnout under the circumstances).\n\nTamar errs when she suggests that nobody was around.  Activists are primarily concerned with turning out the marchers, not with bystanders.  While police and elites lie to the settlerfolk, whom they do not respect in the slightest, they made good on their promise regarding the gay marchers.  JPost \"reports\" that there was an understanding between Haredi elites and the march organizers that there would be no riots this time.  While the Open House guy who referred to this seems to credit his organization and the Haredi elites, the bottom line was presumably that the police made clear that they would be bashing heads if there were riots.  The Haredi elites, who, like most politicos, are only concerned with their power, realized that it was better for them to pretend that they were trying to avoid \"contamination\" of their followers by directing them to avoid the march than to try something.  They would still get Jewish brownie points for their anti-gay position.\n\nSo, Tamar is wrong in thinking that this wasn\'t a real victory for the gay elites.\n\nTamar also omits other things, though.  Note that there was no partial nudity and nothing particularly outrageous.  This, I suppose, was part of the understanding as well.  Naturally, Tamar doesn\'t doesn\'t credit the march organizers for this.  She found one sign in Arabic, which is pretty sorry stuff compared to the usual pro-Fakestinian contingent.\n\nThere you are.  A \"modest\" gay pride march in the capital, carefully engineered among the major parties, backed by Bolshevik forces.\n\nAs the settlerfolk did not sign onto the Haredi rules, there was Federman and someone else who tried to counterdemonstrate, but they were promptly shut down.  The absence of a counterdemonstration of any size is presumably attributable to a secret Haredi-gay politico-police understanding.");
AddReply(318633,"May Hashem have Rachamim on us...","RRA","Florida","06/27/08","B\"H it wasn\'t that many people, but the damage, having such impurity being flaunted in Hashem\'s Palace! May HaKadosh Barechu forgive us!");
AddReply(318623,"shame on religious biggots","aviva","toronto","06/27/08","you need to move to Iran.  Israel is a democracy and will stay that way.\n\nThe courts will bak us every time !");
AddReply(318580,"Weren\'t many of the marchers themselves visitors from golus?","Hmmm","USA","06/27/08","Weren\'t people from various locations OUTSIDE Israel flown in to make this a big parade?   In that case, the purpose of the parade seems not to make much sense.  Why that location?   Why not fly to Las Vegas or LA and assemble the \"troops\" there?  Were all the gays in the parade actually Jews?   Or were there also gay goyim flown in to particpate?");
AddReply(318574,"Ynet says differently...","Avraham","Montreal","06/27/08","http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3560852,00.html\n\nAccording to Ynet, thousands paraded through the streets. Who\'s telling the truth?");
AddReply(318565,"$$$$$$$$ and traffic mess","tzina","jerusalem","06/27/08","just how much public money was thrown away on this non-event? what a waste! \n\nsecurity forces, police, traffic tangled up for most of the day: why bother?");

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