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AddReply(321972,"armed protest leading to crackdown","reizel","","07/09/08","generating support and sympathy. the \"palestinian\" terrorists have used this strategy to good effect. why is it that some terrorist groups are seen as vicious killers and anarchists whom noone would support and the palestinians are seen as victems worthy of sympathy and support??? this is a real, not rhetorical, question.");
AddReply(319175,"C\'mon, Yisrael, try avoiding spin.","sk","USA","06/29/08","This is silly already.  You haven\'t begun to \"refute my facts,\" but have quibbled over some sloppy phrasing of mine.\n\nLet\'s summarize our facts, though.  I said, \"The YC also has a decades-old history of producing indefensible, unviable suburbs, leaving trusting so-called settlers with a false sense of security.\"  You cannot deny the sorry state of Yesha--which is a fact--as you used this fact to dismiss Medinat Yehuda.  I simply pointed out that the YC is thereby damned.\n\nAnd I am not the only one to point out that the YC actually undermines the interests of Yesha.  Feiglin pointed this out in his first book very clearly, and with plenty of detail.  Women in Green have done likewise.\n\nYou say:\n\n\"Members of the YC are paid by the government\" (you repeat that twice). While YC members who also happen to be heads of regional/local councils (a minoirty) are paid by the gov\'t, the majority aren\'t.\"\n\nFine, I wrote sloppily.  However, I implicitly clarified things with my final suggestion regarding PAID YC members:  \"All paid YC members should be tarred, feathered, and ridden out on a rail.\"  If there are paid members, logically there must be unpaid members.  But we already knew that you were unpaid, and so you are spinning my TB into a \"factual error.\"  This is not intellectually respectable.\n\n\"Yes, there is an inherent conflict of interest when a local council head has to ask for an increase in his education budget and the next day declares a strike of schools because of stone-throwing. That exists all over Israel.\"\n\nI\'m glad you acknowledge the fact of a conflict of interest.  It makes a big difference when the \"citizens\' representatives\" of a group (the regional/local council members) are the ones with the conflict of interest.  It doesn\'t matter much if there are swarms of unpaid members, as they can always be replaced (they are low profile).  And, these unpaid members may well be \"in training\" for more lucrative associations, so a conflict of interest can extend to them as well.\n\nBut really, wouldn\'t it be wiser for those who negotiate with powers outside of Yesha for funds simply to refuse to involve themselves in any way in \"political\" matters.  The YC, though, hogs all matters; in doing so, it aggrandizes itself and sells the setterfolk out.  But even having a YC at this point is problematic, as paid members are seen as having some legitimacy.  So, when they wheel and deal, they necessarily are seen to speak for Yesha, even by the Yeshites.  So, an additional solution is to make sure that Yesha communities aren\'t indefensible, unviable bedroom communities (suburbs) that rely on Israeli elites for their continuation.  Welfare cases are always subject, after all, to those with the wallets.\n\nI don\'t dispute that conflicts of interest exist all over Israel; that is one reason why so many problems in Israel are never resolved in the interests of its citizens.  You think this is a-ok?\n\n\"However, all activities are also coordinated with Amana...\"\n\nWELL, that sure seems to have worked out well, hasn\'t it?  After all these decades, you STILL have unviable, indefensible suburbs.  \n\n\"so while I appreciate your sincere concern, I will continue to disagree with your analysis and conclusions\"\n\nAh, but you ave not substantiated your disagreement, you have quibbled with a momentary (and ultimately corrected) sloppiness on my part.\n\n\"for a perverse reason you must use Holocaust-linked semantics.\"\n\nI was referring to the arrest and prosecution of Nadia Matar, as you know full well, for her saying that Bassi was like the Judenrat.  And, frankly, I agree with her.\n\nYisrael, the position of the YC is obvious when someone like Wallerstein is brought back.  This is \"Israeli politics\" as usual.  It shows, beyond everything else, the arrogance and absolute contempt of the YC for the settlerfolk.  You think your other readers don\'t know this?  Whom are you really trying to fool?");
AddReply(318757,"I see the censor is afraid...","Mike","Vienna, VA","06/27/08","...to publish my responses to #2.  Dear censor, you are pathetic.\n\nI suppose #2 will continue to sit in his self-made Auschwitz, deluding himself that \"fighting\" means using your head to stop yassamnik clubs while pointlessly blocking traffic.\n\nBizrat Hashem, soon the youth will reject his contemptible ilk and begin to do the right thing.  We already see the beginnings of it.");
AddReply(317935,"Opinions & Facts","YMedad","Shiloh","06/25/08","I respect your opinions; I refute your facts.\n\n\"Members of the YC are paid by the government\" (you repeat that twice).  While YC members who also happen to be heads of regional/local councils (a minoirty) are paid by the gov\'t, the majority aren\'t.  Yes, there is an inherent conflict of interest when a local council head has to ask for an increase in his education budget and the next day declares a strike of schools because of stone-throwing.  That exists all over Israel.  I have opposed that situation.  However, all activities are also coordinated with Amana so while I appreciate your sincere concern, I will continue to disagree with your analysis and conclusions and not only becuase for a perverse reason you must use Holocaust-linked semantics.");
AddReply(317887,"Gosh, how feeble.","sk","USA","06/25/08","You say:\n\n\"If I understand this correctly, this new \'committee\' accepts the inevitability of the destruction of caravans or other structures or even whole communities (the reference, though, is to the \'outpost\' communities).... Don\'t fight at the destroyed place but move on.  Of course, hopefully, that location will eventually be rebuilt if you succeed in the struggle.\n\nThat being so, I asked myself (and I ask you), what is the essential difference between that approach and that of the Yesha Council?  The Council has been attempting to preserve large outposts by negotiating over smaller, perhaps insignificant locations for the purpose of strengthening over-all the physical, economic, security and legal presence.  Each location on its own merits and the willingness of the residents.  It does not negate any achievement but also recognizes exigencies, even if only temporary.\"\n\nWELL, now that you ask, there are both similarities and differences between the ideas.  The main similarity is that they\'re both stupid, as creating indefensible shacks will not tax the Israeli demolitions teams one bit.  All they need to do if they ARE taxed is to let the Arabs do their dirty work.\n\nThe differences are important, though.  Members of the YC are paid by the government and therefore have an inherent conflict of interest.  Thus, it is no surprise that they participate in Pallywood-esque scenes such as in GK when Wallerstein  (as I recall) staged a \"removal,\" instructing the cops to carry him out and indicating when he could be put down on his feet, all captured on video.  In other words, the YC is inherently untrustworthy, and therefore the details of its \"plans\" are irrelevant as even these stupid plans are not implemented in the settlers\' interests, but in the state\'s.\n\nThe YC also has a decades-old history of producing indefensible, unviable suburbs, leaving trusting so-called settlers with a false sense of security.  It is astounding that you are not at least economically self-sufficient already.  For many years, the socialist kibbutz movement managed it (more than one could say about Stalin\'s collective farms), but you couldn\'t?\n\nYisrael, at some point you become as disgraced as the YC to which you are connected.  I think you\'ve now reached that point, but others might differ.\n\nAll paid YC members should be tarred, feathered, and ridden out on a rail. These guys belong with Judenrat Bassi.  (Oops!  I\'ve insulted a public officer again by telling the truth!  Sorry.)");
AddReply(317643,"Will Vienna, VA be part of it?","Ronen","Shomron","06/24/08","Will Vienna, VA be part of Medinat Yehuda? Do you block junctions in Vienna VA when an outpost is attacked near Yitzhar?\n\nMake alyiah and then talk, buddy!!");
AddReply(317478,"You are UNWILLING to protect a few caravans","Mike","Vienna, VA","06/23/08","Nor are you WILLING to understand that a significant persentage of Israelis, if given a choice between Medinat Yehudah and Emirat Balastin Islami, will choose Medinat Yehudah in a heartbeat.\n\nYou also fail to understand that armed resistance will lead to crackdowns by IDF kapos and the dogs of the Sabak.  This, in turn, will create resentment.  Resentment will build support.  By the time it is all over, 100% of the Jews in Israel will support the immediate creation of Medinat Yehudah.  If you want an elaboration on the topic, go read Mao.\n\nFailure to see the big picture also means that you truly do not understand what the ultimate borders of Medinat Yehudah will be.  I\'ll give you a hint: as Moslem terrorism mounts and Jewish sovereignty spreads, it will soon become apparent to the elites of Tel Aviv that they can have the \"Monaco with a university\" that they always wanted.  When the Final Status Negotiations conclude, Medinat Israel will have no land border with any State except Medinat Yehudah.\n\nI\'ll leave those who can\'t see the forest for the trees with this thought: In 1895, what percentage of world Jewry supported an independent Jewish State in the extreme southwestern corner of the Ottoman villayet of Damascus?  What percentage of the Jewish residents of that benighted corner of that benighted province supported such a heretical idea?");

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