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AddReply(268320,"Attack, Batya?","sk","USA","01/17/08","I ask questions that make people uncomfortable.  Sometimes they evade the questions, sometimes they ignore them.  But really, how well has the \"establishment settler\" fared so far?\n\nYou send out strident calls for ... something.  OK, if things really are so serious, I think my manner is appropriate.  We\'re not at a dinner party, after all.");
AddReply(267719,"sk, discussion?","Batya","eye of storm","01/16/08","Please, let\'s discuss issues and not attack people.");
AddReply(267551,"American, CHELM (31):  yup, I get a lot of silence here.","sk","USA","01/16/08","The odd thing is that I\'m only here to get serious discussion going.  Almost at once, though, I encounter silence.  \n\nI\'ll tell you, if Israelis would give any indication that they know how to fight their own tyrants, I\'d invest my 100% of my IRA (the non-company retirement account) in Israeli stocks.");
AddReply(267180,"Talkbackers","Nechama","Yesha","01/15/08","There are a few talkbackers here who evidently don\'t have anything to do all day other than write nasty things about Israel and Israelis--and from the other side of the ocean yet.");
AddReply(267132,"SK; Thatn will rank right with the \"Questions of No Answer\"","American","CHELM","01/15/08","");
AddReply(267125,"Dean","Batya","eye of storm","01/15/08","That\'s the clipart clock I found for hypnosis.  I\'m flattered that you think I do all the graphics myself.  I\'m just an unpaid blogger.");
AddReply(266278,"So, Batya, this is the best you can do?","sk","USA","01/13/08","mike argues that you need to create a \"Torah Republic\" with violence.  I think there is a nonviolent way to get much of the same effect, and that this has additional benefits.  But you can\'t even bring yourself to \"speak truth to [the] power\" of the likes of O. Yosef, which is part of such a nonviolent approach.\n\nSo what, really, is your point, Batya?  It\'s not like anyone here agrees with ilmert (or with Sharon before him).\n\nAnd when you are pressed, you ultimately just blather that mike and I have \"no right\" to say what we do.\n\nSurely you can do better.  Can\'t you?");
AddReply(266170,"Clocks hands should be on MIDNITE!","dean","eliot","01/12/08","Instead of 10 minutes of eleven!");
AddReply(266070,"Oh, and Batya ... where are YOU when it comes to protesting O. Yosef?","sk","USA","01/11/08","");
AddReply(266041,"Reality/facts should drive Israel-Palestinian policy","Joel K","SD, USA","01/11/08","Reality and facts should drive your Israel-Palestinian policy, not lies and fantasies!\n\nDear President Bush and Dr. Rice, et al:\n\nRe-read your Bible, review truthful history (not Arab/palestinian and leftist lies), archeological truths, and the realities on the ground. \n\nEnough of your Arab driven roadmap, and the continuous, viable, “palestinian” state that you believe will have a happy, democratic and peaceful cinematic Hollywood ending. \n\nThe “Frankenstein” palestinian state that you are pushing will cut Israel in half, and close the vice grip of a “democratically” elected IslamoNazi “palestinians”, bound with many Arab/Iranian supporters, around Israel’s neck. Most “palestinians”, nearly 70%, perhaps more, still want and teach the destruction of Israel, no matter what Israel concedes—this will not change in next year, and perhaps not in the next 10 years, if ever! Remember, that the Gaza withdrawal and democratic elections brought nothing more than the peace of the grave to Israelis, and daily rockets down on the heads of many Israelis. This is the reality, not your fantasies and leftist driven theories. \n\nIf you must have your “palestinian” state, then you already have it, Gaza! If you believe that the “palestinians” deserve a larger piece of land for their state and your legacies, then encourage Egypt to give up some of the Sinai to attach to Gaza, at least this would not cut Israel in half and reduce Israel’s buffer to less than 9 miles from Tel Aviv (Ben Gurion airport). Gaza, with an attached strip from Egypt’s Sinai would offer Israel more security and satisfy your goal of a “continuous and viable” Palestinian state. \n\n");
AddReply(265673,"To#22:  Really?","mike","Vienna, VA","01/11/08","So, Batya, if you are floating in a boat off the coast of Tel Aviv and you see a Jew on shore with a gun to his head, you are not allowed to yell at him not to kill himself?  Really?  That\'s what your argument amounts to.\n\nWe have every right to criticize you and we have every right to shout at you and curse at you and demand that the Jews of the Holy Land wake up before it\'s too late.  In fact, we are Halachically required to warn you of the danger.  As for driving around in an unarmored car in the face of a sniper threat, it shows not bravery but either foolhardiness or lack of funds.  \n\nMy problem with you and many others in Eretz Israel is that, in a nutshell, instead of demanding that your men act like men and defend you from the threat, you encourage them to persist in their delusions.  Instead of making them feel unberarable shame that will goad them into action, you pat them on the back and assure them that all is well.  Your role model should be Deborah.  Instead, you act as if your role model is Delilah.");
AddReply(265666,"Live in Israel","Jewish Mom","Settlement","01/11/08","I agree with you , Batya. I am a mother and grandmother with children and grandchildren on the front lines with me, and I also feel that people who don\'t live where we do and how we do shouldn\'t criticize everything here. We are the ones putting our lives on the line, and not those who don\'t live here.");
AddReply(265602,"Batya, that was an awful, but telling, response.","sk","USA","01/10/08","You, the only blogger here with any courage, ultimately take refuge in a silly ad hominem response and, frankly, one that is intellectually indefensible in many ways.\n\nYou foolishly suggest that where I happen to live has any relevance to the argument I am making.  This is, very precisely, \"ad hominem.\"  My argument stands or falls on its merits.\n\nYou are also confused about what \"bravery\" means.  For you, \"bravery\" would mean referring to O. Yosef in the same terms you refer to ilmert.   You say:\n\n\"There are Jewish Laws about how you speak about others, and that\'s why I\'m careful about things I say about third parties. But I have no problem calling Olmert, Peres, etc dangerous to the viability of the state of Israel, even traitor, dictator etc.\"\n\n\"Jewish laws\" somehow do not apply (and protect) ilmert or peres, but apply (and protect) O. Yoself?  Why?  You seem to be mighty selective in how you apply Halacha.\n\nBut we already knew this didn\'t we?  For you do not apply it to the Haredim--and their leadership--whose life in Israel makes a mockery of Torah.  And they are really supposed to believe, whereas I make no claim of being \"religious.\" But that doesn\'t stop you from lecturing me on my Torah-based obligations.\n\nYou are \"an ordinary person\" when you must confront Jewish popes like Yosef; but you are an ascended, proud, brave, hitchhiking school marm when you confront me.\n\nYour conclusion is simply laughable:\n\n\"There are things you have no right to criticize from your foreign homes. That\'s the price you pay for not living in Eretz Yisrael, the Holy Land.\"\n\nBULL. I have as much \"right\" to criticize \"settler\" pieties as you have to criticize life in galut.  Frankly, your pieties endanger Israel nearly as much as the Left\'s do.");
AddReply(265531,"mike, sk, etc","Batya","eye of storm","01/10/08","I\'m far from perfect, but don\'t lecture me from your foreign homes about Jewish bravery.  I put my life on the line.  I live here in Shiloh and travel in ordinary vehicles, waiting for rides on the roads.\nI\'m not telling anybody to do what I wouldn\'t do myself.\nThere are Jewish Laws about how you speak about others, and that\'s why I\'m careful about things I say about third parties.  But I have no problem calling Olmert, Peres, etc dangerous to the viability of the state of Israel, even traitor, dictator etc.\nThere are things you have no right to criticize from your foreign homes.  That\'s the price you pay for not living in Eretz Yisrael, the Holy Land.");
AddReply(265366,"Obama","Proud Jew","Israel","01/10/08","Read the article today on the A7 site about Obama, by Pamela Geller. If it is accurate, anyone who cares about Israel shouldn\'t vote for him.");
AddReply(265267,"your wrong yisraels problem did start with bush","john","texas","01/10/08","you dont know bush like we do in texas,every where he goes and everything he does fails and causes massive problems ,like the fake junk bonds he illegaly screwed thousands of americans in the early 1980s and almost crashed american banks,thats just one things there isnt enough space here to mention all the rest of his disasters.");
AddReply(265226,"Dan, I find your TBs very valuable.  Thanks.","sk","USA","01/10/08","");
AddReply(265225,"response to Batya, #12","sk","USA","01/10/08","Well, Batya, I\'d call your most recent response \"newsworthy\" but still, alas, insufficient.  Of course, others (and I include YOU Fish and YOU Yisrael M.) lack your courage.  They are hopeless.\n\nYou say:\n\n\"sk- I\'d never vote for Shas, Ovadia Yosef\'s party, since it is a bad one, only after money. The rabbis don\'t have my trust, nor respect. I\'m just an ordinary person, neither rabbi, nor judge, so I really try to be careful in my words. Please respect that.\"\n\nAlas, Batya, I can\'t respect that.  You are an ordinary person?  Well, then why are you lecturing galut Jews on their Torah-related obligation to \"ascend\"?  Who are you, an ordinary person, to wage that \"war\"?  This, you see, is a central aspect of my QUESTION:  the same person who feels himself qualified and willing to lecture galut Jews suddenly becomes silent when it comes to the Trembler (Haredi) leaders whose actions really do make an immediate difference.\n\nFor example, according to JPost, some righeous settler types plastered posters with Shas\'s Yishai in a keffiya near his home.  Nice, but inadequate.  Why is Yosef not in that keffiya?\n\nYou hope that your advocacy of aliyah brings results.  Let\'s say it does.  How will you square that with your silence in the face of wicked Jews like O. Yosef whom you will not mention by name, except finally, indirectly, in your current response to me?  And for me to get this far, it\'s been like pulling teeth, even though you know perfectly well that I am right.\n\nMark my words, Batya.  Sometimes one must destroy before one can build.  Secular types like me have no influence in Orthodox circles, but people like you do.  If settlers cannot bring themselves to ridicule and belittle phonies like Yosef--if they must feel themselves subdued before such idols--nobody else will be able to either.  And if you do not wage this just war, you participate in your own destruction.  AND IN THAT CASE, every Jew who comes over is one more dead Jew, and you need to think seriously about urging their arrival.");
AddReply(265182,"# 8,13: Leftist gov systm=comunism","Aaron","USA","01/09/08","Dan, Charedim are Jewish, very Jewish, they refuse to be exposed to all the promiscuity etc of the army.\nre \"Haredi society is not Jewish, it\'s against Jewish law to live on charity\"--- right but it\'s also a Jewish commandment that when one is in need of charity and one has no other option, to accept charity. If you don\'t believe me then look it up in the Shulchan Aruch. One is not permitted to hurt one\'s life !");
AddReply(265175,"to Upset in Jeru\'m","Iris","New Jersey","01/09/08","bad tootache? Rambam\'s remedy: olive oil. Nature\'s Wealth.I tried and it worked. Incredible. Refuah shelema!\n");
AddReply(265076,"So there you go, SK. &nbsp;You have your answer.","mike","Vienna, VA","01/09/08","She is \"careful with words\".  They are all \"careful with words\".  Faced with extermination they do not fight, they do not shout to the heavens, they make not a single move to resist.  Instead, the contemptible cowards softly whisper to the murderers: \"Please don\'t kill us!  Please!\"  It\'s disgusting.\n\nCompare these people to the Moslems.  The Moslems scream in rage, they attack, they fight and they die in their thousands, men, women and children.  Defeat after defeat they still fight on.  They hold fast to their dream, refusing all offers from \"reasonable\" men, refusing all compromise, refusing to surrender.  They kill any and all who even dare suggest that victory is impossible.  They exterminate those who attempt to surrender.  They have perfect faith in their god.  They have absolute loyalty to their nation.  They confront modern armor with rusty AKs and expired RPGs.  They strap bombs to themselves and blow themselves up to strike down their enemy.  With incredible courage, against all odds, they FIGHT and they PREVAIL.\n\nIn truth, the Jews of the Holy Land deserve extermination because they do not fight.  It truth, the Moslems deserve victory because they DO fight.  It is only the mercy of Hashem that has prevented the extermination so far.  Only the mercy of Hashem can stay justice for so many decades.  But even His mercy is eventually withdrawn.  Watch and remember as the \"settlers\" are massacred, as Israel goes under and 6 million Jews die a horrible death in a Holocaust of hatchets and knives.  Watch as Jewish women are raped and forcibly married, as Jewish babies are dashed against walls by victorious jihadis.  Watch as the synagogues are burned and the Kotel comes down in a cloud of dust.  Teach your children the lesson -- those who refuse to defend themselves deserve their fate.\n\nAfter these people are gone, we in galut will have to restart the effort to build a Jewish State.  We must take care to avoid the mistakes of the weaklings who are about to die in the Holy Land");
AddReply(265016,"Bush\'s visit","Upset","Jerusalem","01/09/08","I just called my dentist\'s office for an emergency appointment as I have a bad toothache. I got a recording saying that the office is closed for 3 days due to Bush\'s visit. The street the dentist is on is closed for this reason. This visit, during which America will pressure Israel to give up parts of Jerusalem and also many settlements, is also causing much inconvenience and financial losses for many businesses. Who needed this?");
AddReply(265010,"Haredim don\'t learn a trade so unemployable   no army service ..","Dan","Jerusalem","01/09/08","To continue to receive their army deferral, they must stay in yeshiva or kollel.  If they left the yeshiva, they would be drafted, which would cause them to be ostracized in Haredi society. \nThus, they need to vote for Shas or Aguda or the yeshiva budget will be cut and they will starve.\nIn this way, the Haredi voters are held hostage by the leftist ruling elite of Israel.");
AddReply(264996,"responding","Batya","eye of storm","01/09/08","sk- I\'d never vote for Shas, Ovadia Yosef\'s party, since it is a bad one, only after money.  The rabbis don\'t have my trust, nor respect.  I\'m just an ordinary person, neither rabbi, nor judge, so I really try to be careful in my words. Please respect that.  \n\nPaul, I\'m sorry, please tell me which terms you don\'t know.  Sometimes I write quickly, on my way to work--I don\'t get paid for anything I do on A7-- and I forget to translate.\n\nJew and Dan, I agree.  Bush\'s visit, closing down Jerusalem for innocent Israeli citizens is a total insult.  If it\'s so dangerous here, he shouldn\'t come.  He is a danger to us.\n\nIf I could get to Jerusaelm, I\'d have a sign saying:\nBush, Didn\'t your mother teach you manners?");
AddReply(264975,"#6 sk, #8 Dan","Aaron","USA","01/09/08","In Israel, are charedim permitted to work and to receive a paycheck ?");
AddReply(264970,"to #4 Mike and Others","Dov ","Brooklyn","01/09/08","\"Torah, the Jews and the land of  Israel are one\" (chassidism, kabbalah). Jews without Torah = WHAT A WASTE, HUH ?! (note: with this I do not mean to offend anyone. It\'s just a conclusion of a GENERAL, not detailed observation I did). Btw, I\'m worried for all the anti-semites. Isn\'t it about time they start wondering what their real duties are ?? I\'m worried for them..");
AddReply(264964,"0k #5","Dov","Brooklyn","01/09/08"," translated #3: \n what makes us different\n\nThe Lubavitcher Rebbe obm (of blessed memory), Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson (the rebbe.org), said that in this generation where very many mistake light for darkness (%^$#@) and darkness for light we need pnimiut hatorah (the inner dimension of the Torah, eg. Tanya, Sichos, Torah Ohr, the Zohar etc, see the website) which is chassidut (chassidism, eg the Chabad mouvement\'s teachings, the Breslov teachings etc These are the inner life, the core of Torah and Jewish wisdom and life).\nAlso, the study of chassidus (chassidism) hastens geula (i.e. redemption)!\nhttp://www.sichosinenglish.org/\nLama, Why ?!\nbecause for instance, http://moshiach.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?t=12&highlight=pnimiut hatorah%2C geula\n");
AddReply(264958,"#6, Kollel Society = communism","Dan","Jerusalem","01/09/08","The reason that the Haredim have a learning society is so they can be controlled.  They have to vote for the religious parties for funding because they are not taught a trade.  Then their leaders have an excuse for voting for expelling Jews.\n\nHaredi society is not Jewish, it\'s against Jewish law to live on charity.  Haredi society is Communist, just like the Soviet Union where everyone worked for the gov\'t.");
AddReply(264929,"Visit","Jew","Israel","01/09/08","Bush\'s visit is costing us a fortune, all of it wasted money since nothing good will come out of his visit - except the various repair work around the city being done now.");
AddReply(264875,"My response to you, Batya.","sk","USA","01/09/08","Batya, I appreciate your willingness to attempt to answer my QUESTION, but I\'m afraid you have fallen far short.  (Which is much better than Fish, who won\'t answer at all.)  Here is my response to your TB #17 from 1/1/2008, which is also relevant to your current blog entry.\n\nYou were asked why important rabbis (like O. Yosef) were not opposing ilmert\'s plans, but remaining in the government.  You responded:\n\n\"There are those like Ovadia Yosef, who are \'protected\' and may not really know what\'s happening. Some have financially-needy institutions to support, like him. His party was offered a new Ministry of Religion to placate them.\"\n\nWhat does Halacha say about Yosef\'s responsibility in such a case?  Does he avoid criticism if he is \"protected\" from knowledge by his own staff?  If not, why do you let \"protection from knowedge\" exhonerate him from responsibility?  Is Halacha not relevant to the bigwigs, just to pee-ons like galut Jews?\n\nYou mention \"financially-needy institutions to support.\"  Ah yes, but are they needy because, in violation of Halacha, they refuse to work for a living? And, if rabbis like Yosef help create a situation that violates Halacha, how can you not criticize him by name?\n\nI asked you:\n\n\"why you chastise, based on Halacha, galut Jews for not living in Israel, but you do not chastise people like O. Yosef for their indifference to the unity and security of the land, which, too, violates Halacha.\"\n\nYou respond:\n\n\"Actually, I do. Have you ever read that I say to support a rabbi here for his political stance? I am against religious political parties. I\'ll stop supporting NU, since it has been swallowed by NRP.\nWhat you see on this blog is only part of my writing. Look at Shiloh Musings.\"\n\nACTUALLY YOU DON\'T.  You have AGAIN changed my question to one that you feel more comfortable answering.  Your lack of support for religious political parties is nice, but it does not translate into CRITICISM of people BY NAME who SUBVERT TORAH for various reasons.  I think they\'re corrupt, and I think the Judaism they\'ve learned is useless for a modern state.  Whatever the explanation, they are RESPONSIBLE for the CONSEQUENCES.\n\nOh, I googled your Shiloh Musings web site with the term \"Ovadia Yosef\" and got only two hits, one that almost counted as a mild criticism of him regarding the appointment of Peres.  That\'s not much.  Anyway, you sound like Human Rights Watch defending its coverage of Israel by saying that it often criticizes the \"Palestinians.\"  No, it does not.  And when it does, it does so in low-visibility ways.  YOU though Batya have a podium at INN.  You do NOT choose to apply Halacha where it really would do some political good, and you canNOT excuse yourself simply by saying that you\'ve made some general arguments against religious parties on some other web site.\nYou say on this blog entry that \"our problem doesn\'t begin with Bush.\"  Bingo.  It begins with BATYA and the other settlers, who will not call a spade a spade but make EXCUSES for those who SELL ALL JEWS OUT.  You are not an \"odd one out,\" Batya.  You\'re actually quite conventional, at least for a \"settler.\"\n\nIn fairness, though, at least you come near to answering my QUESTION.  I only wish you had actually done so.");
AddReply(264763,"Att\'n #3","Paul S.","Toronto, Ontario, Canada","01/08/08","Please include English translations for the Hebrew religious terms you use.  Not all of us understand them.  Thank you.  Tamar Yonah explains everything in English with translations, so can you.");
AddReply(264630,"The difference is, we have brains","mike","Vienna, VA","01/08/08","The vast majority of the public does not.  The average blockhead on the street believes whatever he is told.  If the media tells him enough times that war is peace and freedom is slavery, he will believe it.  Without an alternative source of information to jolt the blockheads out of their slumber, nothing will occur.  This is why revolutionary movements use violence.  True violence is very hard to hide.  ");
AddReply(264609,"what makes us different","Dov","Brooklyn","01/08/08","The Lubavitcher Rebbe obm said that in this generation where very many mistake light for darkness and darkness for light we need pnimiut hatorah which is chasssidut.\nAlso, the study of chassidus hastens geula!\nhttp://www.sichosinenglish.org/");
AddReply(264569,"The liberal media has hypnotized many fools.","MED","USA","01/08/08","Isn\'t this how the liberal media has been working on us?  They are VERY GOOD at raising the \'Misery Index\' in populations that listen to them glued to their TV sets and depend on them for all their world news.\n\nIsaiah 5:20  -- Rightly tells how we are being befooled.\n\n\'Woe unto them that call evil good,\nAnd good evil\nThat change darkness into light,\nand light into darkness;\nThat change bitter into sweet,\nAnd sweet into bitter.\'\n\nIt\'s time to get the truth from the right internet sources, and there are many sites.  For Israeli news, we depend on A7.");
AddReply(264509,"To understand why, listen to Tamar Yonah\'s interview of Dr. Narrett","Dan","Jerusalem","01/08/08","");

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