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AddReply(265674,"# 12..Disrespect to What Lady ?","M","USA","01/11/08","YOU CALL RICE A LADY ? SHE WORKS FOR BUSH THE TRAITOR \nOF ISRAEL AND AMERICA..\nHE LETS IRAN RUN BOATS THAT CIRCLE THE AMERICAN NAVY SHIP AND THREATENS THE SHIP THAT THEY WILL BE EXPLODED\nAND BUSH HELD THEM BACK FROM FIRING ON THE IRANIANS\nBOATS THAT CAME OUT FOR A BATTLE.\nA LADY HUH ? THINK AGAIN !\nSPEAKING OF FRUSTRATION !\n");
AddReply(263261,"mike (25), you do not understand my purpose.","sk","USA","01/04/08","I cannot know ahead of time, one way or the other, about the courage and intellectual honesty of either Fishman or Medad.  I give them both opportunities to show themselves.\n\nI admit that I expected more from both, in particular Medad.  But I figured ahead of time that it would be useful no matter what to bring basic questions out into the open.  If they responded in a forthright manner, terrific.  If they did not, other TB readers whould see that as well.\n\nI do think that Medad seems to be doing good work, but I also suspect that the net effect of his work is not good.  I hope he at least wrestles with this possibility openly, rising to the challenge.  You believe this to be nearly impossible; I am not so confident.\n\nYour background in the USSR/Russia may be far more applicable to Israel than mine in the US.  I admit it.  This really is an empirical matter.");
AddReply(262526,"To#23:  There are some things I can rule out","mike","Vienna, VA","01/02/08","You come from the land of plenty, the goldene medina where even the beggars are well off.  You believe in shades of grey.  You expect Medad to forthrightly answer your questions, as if he can honestly admit what he truly is.  You do not understand that if Medad honestly considers your question, he will see that his hands are covered to the elbow with the blood of Jewish children.  Few men would have the courage to face such a reality.  Medad does not have the courage.  \n\nWhen you write to Fishman, you repeat this mistake.  You believe that Fishman would have the courage to stand his beliefs on their head because these  do not correspond to objective reality.  But to do this, he would have to reject the sum total of his life.  A man of sixty, set in his ways, suddenly admitting that his whole life is a lie, that the men whom he worships as modern-day prophets are a clutch of corrupt cowards!  \n  \nFrom this portrait of you, I can draw inferences.\n");
AddReply(262519,"David Landau","Shifra","Jerusalem","01/02/08","I am embarrassed that David Landau is a fellow Jew!!");
AddReply(262472,"c\'mon mike! (18)","sk","USA","01/02/08","Dude, what do you know of my experiences?!  ");
AddReply(262464,"Sorry, Yisrael (19):  sorry, but now I\'m more worried than ever.","sk","USA","01/02/08","I said in #16:  \"Every time a decent person gets near these destroyers of Yesha, he risks burnishing the Council\'s image. You may actually get enough benefit from this connection to offset the positive PR your name lends this unworthy bunch--that\'s an empirical question--but there is no doubt that it, too, benefits.\"\n\nYou have not come close to addressing this point, which is about summing pluses and minuses.  Feiglin showed in great detail how the YC undermined his efforts to prevent Oslo.  It\'s not an issue of \"purity\"; rather, the issue is the NET EFFECT OF YOUR HELP TO THE YC.  If the YC displaces other more worthy groups, your help can easily be a net negative.  But even without such alternative groups, the YC can easily be seen to be a fifth column for the settler movement--worse than nothing.\n\nFor example, if I recall, the Amona resistors DEFIED the YC, which was going to subvert this necessary action, and was trying to wrest control from people like Nadia Metar.\n\nYisrael, clearly you do much great work--and I do not, so far.  However, I am concerned that what I thought was a very clearly put point was not addressed in a forthright manner.");
AddReply(262355,"Landau","Shlomit L.","settlement","01/01/08","I am not a fan of Ms. Rice because of what she wants us to do here in Israel, however she is a lady and what could she have thought about a kippa wearing Jew using such filthy language? What a boosha!");
AddReply(261926,"The YC is \"dominant\", because of people like you, Medad","mike","Vienna, VA","12/31/07","Also, because no one has put together a tribunal to pronounce sentences and an action committee to carry these sentences out.  May both occur soon.\n\nAs for you, you will get what always comes to those who help the \"dominant force\".  In this world or the next.");
AddReply(261851,"To SK","Yisrael Medad","Shiloh","12/31/07","Since 1974, strating with Tzvika Slonim, I have been involved in one way or another with the Hasbarah efforts of Gush Emunim and later the Yesha Council in portraying and justifying the endeavor of resettling the Land of Israel and speaking to the world\'s press, diplomats, non-Jews and Arabs.  I have been told I do it fairly well and if I have a talent for the job, I prefer to do what I can, if I can do it well, for the cause.  I stress volunteer to indicate that I do not take a salary and therefore am free to criticise what I don\'t like with the Yesha Council establishment.  The reality is, like it or not, that the YC is the dominant force on the scene and if I can make any of what they do or want to do more imaginative, more understanable and more effective I will do that and not stand off in \"Vienna\", Tapuah or anywhere eles and get frustrated and say \"I will not cooperate with that because it isn\'t ideological pure\". That isn\'t me.  I hope I have managed to clear that up.");
AddReply(261812,"Knowing traitor or naive fool, the result is the same","mike","Vienna, VA","12/31/07","He who aids traitors in wartime gets stood up against a wall, regardless of his motives.  Simply put, friend sk, I come from a harsher world than you do.  \n\nOnce, when I was a little boy, an old man took me and a group of other care-for-naught boys and girls on a little trip to Piskarevsky Cemetery.  When we stood at the central monument, where the eternal flame burns and the words \"Let no one forget and let nothing be forgotten\" are etched forever in granite and bronze, when we gazed in every direction upon mass graves with nothing but dates on them, the old man said: \"Remember this, children.  Remember this day.  THIS is what it costs when you are not ready for war.\"  I will never forget that day.  I will never forget that lesson.  Nor will I forget standing upon the ridge at Pulkovo, with all Leningrad spread out before me and the golden dome of St. Isaak\'s shining merrily in the spring sun, looking at the flat field and the woodline below.  The SS had once broken through to that ridge.  They had stood where I stood.  They had tanks, artillery, air support...  And the Baltic Fleet marines had nothing but their rifles and their sea-daggers.  The marines came out of that woods, out onto that billard table of a field.  Across the snow they came and up the ridge.  And they threw the SS off.  With their bayonets and their sea-daggers.  And when they were done, there was not a patch of white snow left upon that ridge, nor in that field.  It was all red, blood of heroes and blood of SS dogs mingled together.  Not one in ten of the marines lived to stand atop that ridge.  But they saved the city.\n\nYou, who have never walked through those cemeteries, nor gazed upon the 125-gram slice of bread in the Road of Life Museum, half bran and glue and sawdust, can never understand.  And you can never be as brutal in defence of your people and your homeland as we who were taught to remember.");
AddReply(261629,"To mike regarding the use of \"despicable\"","sk","USA","12/30/07","In #15 you refer to the \"despicable author of this blog.\"  Now do you have any evidence that he ever knowingly worked with the Yesha Council to kick Jews out of Yesha?\n\nI do think this is an important point, mike.  People can be foolish at times without being perfidious.  (I am not saying that Medad is foolish here, though I am concerned with his YC affiliation.)\n\nOh, I also think that many of mike\'s suggestions have obvious merit.  The idea that people from Yesha would not serve when giving land to killer Muslims is the plan, but would create their own militia, if even plausibly threatened, would send a shockwave through Israel.");
AddReply(261254,"Yesha Council","sk","USA","12/29/07","Yisrael, in your bio you say:\n\n\"He serves as the Yesha Council\'s Foreign Media spokesman in a volunteer capacity. . . .\"\n\nYou say to mike:\n\n\"I am not a member of the Yesha Council so if you want to criticize my oponions and positions and thinking, fine. Just do it on their (de)merits. . . . But you have it wrong, I am having them work for me but you wouldn\'t understand that.\"\n\nWell, I do understand the distinction you are making, and I expect that mike does as well.  Given everything else great about you, including the substance and wit of your writing, I will be more tactful than mike.\n\nYou think you are using the Yesha Council.  Perhaps you are, but the net effect might still be negative. Every time a decent person gets near these destroyers of Yesha, he risks burnishing the Council\'s image.  You may actually get enough benefit from this connection to offset the positive PR your name lends this unworthy bunch--that\'s an empirical question--but there is no doubt that it, too, benefits.\n\nWhile I think Feiglin is a bit nutty, his discussion of the Council in _Where There Are No Men_ so fully matches what it did in the Disengagement/Expulsion/Pogrom, raises concerns about your affiliation with it.  Naturally Feiglin also plays a comparably risky game with the Likud.");
AddReply(261128,"To #12: No you are NOT trying","mike","Vienna, VA","12/28/07","The first step in TRYING to fight would be to tear down and burn the banner of Israel and to raise the banner of Judah in its place.  The second step would be to greet every Israeli soldier and policeman in Yesha with a barrage of rocks and shouts of \"get out of my country, occupier scum!\"  The third step would be to stop serving in the Tsahal and instead establish your own self-defense units.  The fourth step would be to proclaim independence.  THAT would constitute \"trying\".  What you people are doing is known as playing games.  It is also known as being led around by the nose.  The Yesha Council and their henchmen, like the despicable author of this blog, are instrumental in this activity.  Have you noticed how every action by the Yesha Council is carefully orchestrated to make you feel like you are doing something while in reality accomplishing nothing at all?  Think carefully about this.  It\'s important.\n\nOh and by the way, if I were Neturei Karta I would not be on this site.  I would be busy taking money from the Moslems and blessing Persian missiles.");
AddReply(261047,"#12 Yvonne","CDG","Yerushalayim","12/28/07","You just described dhimmitude very concisely. This is what the Mizrahim of the Middle East suffered for hundreds of years at the hands of the Muslims.\n\nBy the way, people, do you know that Women In Black is \"celebrating\" 20 years today? At Paris Square, Jerusalem, at 1 PM. ");
AddReply(261046,"Mike now I get the picture - you are Naturei Karta - hence your ..","Miriam","Ashkelon","12/28/07","sightly manic behaviour in all the blogs.");
AddReply(261029,"maybe #9 is right..","yvonne","cary","12/28/07","and the man was speaking out of frustration. In any case he displayed disrespect to the lady, Ms. Rice. If it came out of the man\'s subconscious, it surfaced and became conscious. I may have been a spiritual manifestation and warning. After all, is what he stated had to be done not already happening? We, as jews, are attacked, and then are required to say, we are so sorry to have been in your way and to have invoked your insanity, and then we turn the other cheek. However, rage and evil keep on burning in a raging fire.Fire springs over. Hatred is not deflected by goodness, on the contrary. Nature creates a vacuum, and if you repay evil with goodness and turning your cheek, it will come to possess you. What is required of us is crazymaking, and this poor editor has just demonstrated that.");
AddReply(261028,"My Reward","YMedad","Shiloh","12/28/07","Mike, I am afraid you are my reward and I can only bless HKB\"H for that because this means that my share in the World-Yet-To-Come will be less painful, thanks to your fulminations and libels.  But that\'s okay, I do believe in free speech, especially when I am doing it.\n\nBut you have it wrong, I am having them work for me but you wouldn\'t understand that.");
AddReply(261005,"Mike - Vienna - why are you ALWAYS so ...","Miriam","Ashkelon","12/28/07","angry and confrontational??   Ready to attack us who are living here in Eretz?  You may mean well but your manner is most upsetting.  We are trying to fight this Govt believe me!!!");
AddReply(260931,"Perhaps","PDH","OC","12/28/07","Hmm, sounds like a man with a huge internal conflict going on.  Perhaps it was a slip of the tounge with his conscience temporarily getting the upper hand.");
AddReply(260904,"To #7:  You work for them.  That is enough","mike","Vienna, VA","12/27/07","Stop splitting hairs.  You bear as much responsibility for the Gush Katif pogrom as Sharon himself.  This is true of anyone associated with the Yesha Council, even if they as much as take out the trash after meetings.  Don\'t worry, Hashem will give you your reward!");
AddReply(260879,"Mike, Vienna or Not","YMedad","Shiloh","12/27/07","I am not a member of the Yesha Council so if you want to criticize my oponions and positions and thinking, fine.  Just do it on their (de)merits.");
AddReply(260814,"Put him on a billboard with that quote!","Gary"," Monterey, CA","12/27/07","");
AddReply(260756,"And you began so well!","mike","Vienna, VA","12/27/07","Alas, a member of the Yesha Council must always sabotage Jewish self-defense.  Chanukah is not only for Kislev, saboteur!  Repent!  Yesh Din ve Yesh Dayan!");
AddReply(260739,"Stoners have more class than Him","Robert","Oregon,US","12/27/07","");
AddReply(260706,"men are foolish beings","hanina","","12/27/07"," without a poetic note in his body,\nI believe mr landau was inciting Hashem to act.\nlet\'s move along, I cannot stand to make any more latkes, \nfirst comes the oil\nthen comes the party\nwe celebrate the insanity\nof our creator\'s imagination to bring the house down.\nthere is a teenage song called move along... move along.\nI do believe that applies here.\nsir do you own a shower cap?");
AddReply(260684,"I would beat the snort out of him/her...","MED","USA","12/27/07","This is with ref.to: \'What would you do to one who incites a rapist to rape?\'\n");
AddReply(260648,"A leftie WITH A KIPPAH!!!","CHAIM","NY","12/27/07","BUT THIS leftie IS INSANE. NO JAIL FOR him!!  he GOES TO THE CRAZY HOUSE FOR NUTS!! TAKE him IN A VAN.....NO PADDY WAGON PLEASE!!");

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