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AddReply(467784,"You people are the haters. People(s) are not equal. ","JMK","NYC","07/22/09","Cultures are not equal. IQ\'s are not equal. Even within similar IQ\'s there are a range of talents and deficiencies. Everyone who wrote back owes their lives to science and especailly Jewish Israeli science that comes out of the Technion. Praying and studying Talmud are great but it won\'t help one live any longer or healthier by itself. The \"good\" are punished like the \"evil\", the \"evil\" succeed like the \"good\", no difference, read Yoav again but without the Hollywood ending that was written into it. If you want to hate someone there is Obama enough for everyone. I do have a real problem call it hate with Jews who think the christian god existed, he was a complete fiction, forgery, fabrication. Christianity and its \"New\" Testament is complete bubbe mayse. I think any Rabbi who believes and the word is believes that there was such man is not just Rabbi but is not a Jew. 6,000,000  Omayns. ");
AddReply(467711,"To #18 - Truth","","","07/21/09","The founders of today\'s state of Israel, the ones in power& before them, are not Ashkenazim, because they are NOT JEWS!  They are the Erev Rav. When everyone will understand this basic fact, there will not be sinat chinam. These so-called leaders ruined the Jewish lives of its citizens since the inception of the state.  Look what they did to the Yemenite Jews; whether sephardim or ashkenazim, they took away as much Judaism as they could from them. Please don\'t blame the ashkenazic Jews for the situation that these erev rav politicians created; against the will of all its Jewish citizens, except for the less than 10% miserable leftist Jews in Israel. Those elitists sitting in the seat of power are in cahoots with foreign entities that literally want to destroy Judaism in Israel and even worldwide.");
AddReply(467649,"science from bottom up.","nachman ","flushing-jerusa","07/21/09","if mr. ivtsan is willing to take a short trip down israels coastline he can find a school in hadera that starts teaching science very effectively,connecting it to the teaching of torah starting at the kindergarten level. the school ,called Madaim V\'Yahadut, started 7 yrs ago in Hadera has an enrollment of 500 up to middle school level. the student body is drawn from the secular population of the area and makes no religious forced requirements on the sudents. Teachers are highly qualified and meet all educational rquirements set by the ministry of education PLUS addional attention  and hours given by the school staff to assure that the students not only learn the subject matter but will grow up as role models who will show that israelis from different backgounds and viewpoints canlive together harmoniously.to learn more about the school just click on MADEIMH.GO.CET.AC.IL/GO and enjoy");
AddReply(467624,"JMK keep your racism to yourself","Leah","Maaleh Adumim","07/21/09","I can\'t believe some of the comments here.  Ashkenazim and Sephardim are all Jews. neither is \"primitive\". however, technological advancement is a corollary of environment. a Jew in a yeshiva will excel at that; a Jew in a technological environment will excel at that. Ashkenazic or Sephardic has nothing to do with it.\n\nthe question is - what is the best way to improve Israeli schools? smaller classes and better salaries for teachers would help. more money for bureaucrats will not.");
AddReply(467547,"Why did Arutz 7 allow this cheap attack on Sephardic Jews?","Uzitiger","Ramat Gan","07/21/09","Especially during the three weeks.  Not only were Sephardic Jews attacked but Eastern European Jews as well.  This is the most vile anti Semitic slander by this JMK.  I suffered from this second class treatment by Ashkenazi supremacists when I was growing up and sadly they haven\'t stopped their disgusting cheap shots against us. \n\nWho needs Nazi and Arab anti Jewish propaganda when we have a homegrown Jew haters in our midst.");
AddReply(467415,"Formal Education Is Mostly Way Overrated","Mike","Los Angeles","07/21/09","Except for in a very few areas like Medicine a formal education is way overrated.\n\nBetter more boys in Israel should learn Torah and then open up small businesses then go through public education which has proved time and again throughout history and the world to be inferior to learning the Torah and private education.");
AddReply(467371,"JMK",",",",","07/21/09","You are the one who spewed hate and the only ones I see sitting around playing shesh besh are arabs.  Who cares about that temple of pagan humanism in Haifa. Same area where the priests of ba\'al got consumed when Eliyahu HaNavi called down sacred fire.\nYou, JMK, are the one who brought hateful comments into this forum. Russian imiigrants? You mean those goyim anti-semites. Oh yeah, big contribution they\'ve made to the overall fabric of our society. Another big lie. Like they were all concert pianists. NOT! They couldn\'t bring rubles so they bought pianos to resell here.  Most of them were grads of tech schools. \"Engineer\" is an honorarium given in a status conscious society.  Many  are not university educated let alone holders of advanced degrees. \nDon\'t try to twist your own words and divert attention from your loathsome commentary.  You, sir, are the hater.");
AddReply(467367,"Zelig",",",",","07/21/09","Thanks, I would like that but I will never visit the US again except the offshore part where my daughter resides and then only under duress. Let me know when you are in Jerusalem and we\'ll have you at our table. ");
AddReply(467342,"Are you sure?","Moshe","New York","07/21/09","Are you sure the non-Israeli recipients of the Nobel Prize were actually born in America?  I\'m sure most of them were born in Europe from a different generation when education was taken more seriously.\nIn the meantime, Israel\'s time is coming.  With all the aliyah and diversification going on, we are bound to see more Nobel Prizes from Israel.");
AddReply(467294,"To Proud Sefardia","zelig","memphis","07/21/09","On Shabbat afternoon,I partake in Shalosh Sheudas with a Syrian,a Moroccan,a Libyan,and an Iranian.My lineage is Polish-Russian.We have a good time.Maybe you can sit at our table when you come to Memphis,some time!");
AddReply(467233,"Why the hate? Science is what the article is about!","JMK","NYC","07/21/09","Do you you think the Technion just happened, it had to be nurtured and the students encouraged and engaged to excel at the highest levelsof their potential, Did not the Russian immigration raise the scientific standards in Israel. Do you think scientists and the inclined spend their evening in the cafes or days playing shesh besh or filling up cups with shells from garinim while watching Maccabi or Betar. My pet peeve are Rabbis who accept the Christian storyline and point to Rambam, well how does or would Rambam know, does he explain himself at all or to anyones satisfaction, no but Rabbis accept the lie which Jews enemies used to exterminate, massacre and torture, starve etc. For Rabbis to accept this fiction as fact is a corruption of the mind and an insult to intelligence. Christianity is a pagan myth and the New Testament is 100% fiction.  ");
AddReply(467172,"why go for it?","","","07/20/09","why go for the \'Nobel prize\'? there are other ways to make a kidush Hashem.leave it for the non jews. ");
AddReply(467149,"Zelig",",",",","07/20/09","That\'s an Ashkenazi name. Talk to YOUR brethren. Don\'t blame the victims.\n\nWow! I had no idea how deep this ran. \nAnd people wonder why I\'m so ready to proclaim my Sefardiut?   Let them laugh! \n\nI AM A PROUD SEFARDIA and I don\'t need to prove myself to YOU.");
AddReply(467110,"No better time!","zelig","memphis","07/20/09","I suppose that there\'s no better time for Ashkenazi-Sefardi sinat chinam .....\nthan The Three Weeks ;)");
AddReply(467054,"#27",",",",","07/20/09","Good, Janet, but who didn\'t you mention JMK  or lend some support to those of us who took him on?\n#1\'s comment hinted at racism but JMK \'s are vile and repulsive reeking with hate. ");
AddReply(466961,"about #1","Janet Kasten Friedma","Kohav HaShahar","07/20/09","Arutz 7 should be more careful before they publish letters. The caption under Post Comment warns that \"Comments which include incitement, slander or foul language will not be published\". Comment #1 includes slander of non-Ashkenazim and so should not have been published. Please avoid allowing people in general, and people from outside the country in particular, to soil our public domain with their sinat hinam (baseless hatred) and nasty habit of slandering their fellow Jews.");
AddReply(466924,"JMK is an arrogant and condescending Ashkenazi supremacist","Uzitiger","Ramat Gan","07/20/09","What supremacist chutzpah! You Ashkenazim are not superior to us and your \'Yiddish\' language is an old German dialect.  What makes you superior to the Sephardic Jews?  Assimilating faster?  Your haskala which discarded the Jewish ways to pave the road to assimilation?  Give me a break from your condescending chutzpah. \n\nThe Yekkes were so \'enlightened\' that they wanted to be more German than the Germans.  The German culture which showed its barbarism which consumed six million Jewish lives.  Apparently you also learned the ways of Esav in your hatred of Jews from Arab countries.  Your ilk tried to wean Sephardic Jews from Judaism with the Alliance schools with Euro trash culture.\n\nMy parents were subjected to discrimination from scum like yourself who told us that we were lesser than you are. \n \nFurthermore, the Talmud came from Babylon not Berlin!");
AddReply(466838,"JMK, not a person, a brute",",",",","07/20/09","No, Not true! and what did all that science do for the 16 million? Got them to trust in man not Hashem and killed by the most scientifically advanced methods available. The INHUMAN comments you made were about Ashkenazi DNA being somehow superior and that eugenic philosophy is want is repulsive, what Sanger promoted and what the NAZI\'s raison d\'etre was. It defines the word racism. ");
AddReply(466768,"#22 and #23 I am a real person. Furthermore...","JMK","NYC","07/20/09","What is the big deal, pre 1938 there were 16 million European Jews in the midst of the most advanced scientific tradition in the world and increasingly secularized at that, In addition, the Ashkenazi tradition was geared to very abstract thought called pilpul that developed and nourished the mind whereas the Jews of the Levant that numbered only 1.5 million in pre 1938 and lived in the midst of the most backward and primitive civilization called Islamic , centered their religious scholarship on erudition. Even today the finest Sephardic Torah minds owe their educational excellence to the fact they studied in Litvak Yeshivas. Not true? True! ");
AddReply(466659,"and now further outrage",",",",","07/20/09"," I think JMK is a pseudonym for someone at A7 if something as repulsive as his post #21 gets thru. This is on the level of Margaret SAnger and her eugenicist buddies in the Third Reich. \ni am literally sick to my stomach after reading it. Excuse me while go throw up and take a shower. ");
AddReply(466365,"#20",",",",","07/19/09","Why do you assume I attacked? I simply thanked D\'veed for is info on Sephardic Jewish accomplishments and wondered why A7 allowed comments like JMK\'s which are inciting and filled with hate. I think I compared him to other frequent Talkbacker, Mohammed Hasan of Jaffa. As a matter of fact,why do they publish his zevel either? ");
AddReply(466338,"The article concerned science. European Jews only a remnant of live in Israel. ","JMK","NYC","07/19/09","The US Ashkenazim are vastly disappearing due to secularism. The religious  make up a real fraction of the population and that because of the prior point of intermarraige conversion and narcissism that results in childless lives. The point is, the past does not matter but the future does which means study and application and hard hard work with Levant Jews who it seems to me, do not have the genetic material or the interest to achieve. Religion whether Judaism Islam or Christianity is a whole other story and I mean that literaly proven with substantiated evidence, fictional story to believe in is to suspend all pretense of scientific inquiry and method, you know the method that needs to prove and support a theory and statement and not have to rely on bubbe mayse or rumor or what some Rabbi said only because he said it. ");
AddReply(466334,"Try again #19","Truth","","07/19/09","I\'m interested. Tone it down and don\'t attack.");
AddReply(466310,"Thank you #18",",",",","07/19/09"," I wonder why A7 censored my thanks to D\'veed Natan?");
AddReply(466271,"JMK, the Ashkenazim ruined the soul of Israel","Truth","","07/19/09","The culture of the Ashkenazim is predominantly a secular copy of whatever non-Jewish culture is popular at the time. The Sephardim, even when they are not religious, adhere to Jewish culture much more than the Ashkenzim. If European cafes or the secular intellectuals that brought on mass assimilation are your idea of what Israeli culture should be, you don\'t know what it means to be Jewish.\nWithout a soul - that the secular Ashkenazim who physically built much of Israel destroyed - the material side of Israel is doomed to failure, as we see now.");
AddReply(466068,"Moshe Feinsteins ","D\'veed Natan","Kfar Adumim","07/19/09","Samuel Ha-Nagid, Moses ibn Ezra, Solomon ibn Gabirol, Judah Halevi, Moshe Maimonides, Yosef Karo, Isaac Abrabanel, Baruch Spinoza, to name a few. Closer to our times: Benjamin Disraeli, Hyam Salomon (Financier of the American Revolution), Baruj Benacerraf (Nobel Prize Winner Medicine), Salvador Luria (Nobel Prize Winner Medicine), David Ricardo (Father of Classical Economics), Claude Cohen-Tannoudji (Nobel Prize Winner Chemistry). These are just a few. There are more - lots more.");
AddReply(466050,"#14",",",",","07/19/09","That\'s ok, D\'veed. It\'s honest work and you need to eat. ;-) Some of us aren\'t driven by the need for money or glory.");
AddReply(465999,"#11,12, Not just Ashkenazi but Yekke & Litvak compared to Galitziana.","JMK","NYC","07/19/09","Sephardim and Jews from Arab lands do not even compare to the level of culture and intellect and the achievements of Europan Jews. Israel was created by European Ashkenazi Jews, Jews from the Levant would still be drinking coffee in the Casbah\'s of Marrahkesh if not for European Jews. Where are the Levant Jews Einsteins, Tellers, Oppenheimers, Rabbi Moshe Feinsteins facts are facts, Temanim are wonderful people as most people are, but few can produce anyone like Ashkenazi Jews. ");
AddReply(465731,"# 10.) That\'s nice; but,","D\'veed Natan","Kfar Adumim","07/17/09","The people you describe are the ones who ask me if I want to \"Supersize order for you?\"");
AddReply(465717,"Touche number 3","Daniel Ivtsan","","07/17/09","True this is hardly scientific in itself, I haven\'t included all variables nor complete statistics proving my point. But it is after-all a short article, not a full study. ");
AddReply(465676,"JMK #1",",",",","07/17/09","Asnkenazim aren\'t primitives? \nYou mean like the \"highly evolved\" ones (NOT) who are burning their own neighborhoods and holding their neighbors hostage in RBS, Geula and Mea Shearim?\n\nYour comment smacks of racism. \nIt was the countries that welcomed Mizrachi Jews that opened the first Universities e.g. The University of Salerno Medical School, circa 935 CE, with a faculty of Jewish physicians. And that\'s not also racism, it\'s fact. \n\nFrom the news reports, it would seem that your kinfolk have some catching up to do in the civilization department. ");
AddReply(465662,"Response to comment 1","David Silvern","Petah Tikva","07/17/09","I think you are bigotted and ignorant.  There are plenty of Sephardi Jews in the US who are at the tops of their professions or very successful in the business world.  You may be interested to know that Sephardi Jews reached America\'s shores before the Ashkenazim.  These Jews have more brains in their pinkies than you have in you entire backward and primitive body.");
AddReply(465643,"the death of souls",",",",","07/17/09","is found in too much math and science. This is root of many problems in todays Western cultures. Most of what we have is junk science and math is just one big theoretical discussion in a contrived language. It works on it\'s simplest level much as the words \"feed me\" and \"I\'m sleepy do.\"  What the world needs more of is music, art, literature that stirs and awakens the soul.  While there are many Jews who have excelled in these areas we hardly ever hear of them because the West denigrates them due to the influence of a xtian, specifically Puritan, World view that values industry and practicality and sees the Arts as peripheral at best, demonic at worst while giving a grudging nod to creativity thru crafts. NO, Mr. Ivtzan, we don\'t need more scientists and mathematicians, we need more Jews to connect to their creator thru their hearts and souls and to express that connection in the arts.");
AddReply(465642,"solution : LESS $$$ for Education Ministry bureaucracy","Moshe","Beit Shemesh","07/17/09","just increasing the total budget is NOT good enough.\n-----------\ndivide up the budget FAIRLY.\nmore $$ for teachers less $$ for apparachniks");
AddReply(465603,"No easy solutions?","anonymous","","07/17/09","Au contraire!  Anything run by government bureaucrats is guaranteed to be run into the ground within three generations.  A total privatization of the educational system with complete freedom for teachers and students to choose whatever school they want and can afford will instantly resolve all problems.  Thefirst thing Russian Jews did upon arriving in Israel was to found private night school programs to supplement Israel\'s so-called \"education\".  These programs, and not Israel\'s so-called \"schools\" with their useless unionized so-called \"teachers\", will form the core of the private educational system that will produce the scientific and technical elite needed to makie Israel competitive with the achievements of the Diaspora.");
AddReply(465595,"There are other loftier goals.","","","07/17/09","Excellence in charachter.\nKindness to others.\nLoyalty to family, friends & country. I remember the bad attitudes my Israeli teachers modeled in high school.They may not have been paid properly, but thats no excuse to add items not on the curiculem, such as the display of bad behavior,anger,smoking during class, or political arguments for/against party affiliations.In my case they did not like Rabbi Mayer Kahane\nand made sure everyone got free political immunization lectures.I wonder if North Korean children also have similar such experiences.One thing I did miss was a heated classroom following the Yom Kippur war.They should have found some heating fuel or chopped down those forests trees donated from my Bar Mitzva dedications.The humidity was so high in classroom that when I tried to write an essay the notebook paper would tear because it was so moist.No apology ever was offered.");
AddReply(465593,"Education Starts at Home","David Silvern","Petah Tikva","07/17/09","As much as it pains me to say this, Israeli children are abnoxious, unruly and disrespectful.  If an Israeli teacher dares to discipline a child, the parent files a complaint against the teacher.  On top of that, you have 40 reckless children in a class with which to contend.  What do you expect?  Perhaps if parents gave the teachers the respect they deserve, their children would follow suit.");
AddReply(465590,"how to do it","zelig","memphis","07/17/09","Israel should tax stupidity.Stupidity is an integral part of television,the motion picture industry,\"pulp\" newspapers,etc.If the \"progressive\" world is looking to tax \"carbon\" ,then Israel should tax stupidity.The money could go to the better programs in univerities,high schools,or to early childhood programs.And what constitutes \"stupidity\" ?Loshen hora,porn,mind numbing tv shows and idiotic rap music are but a few examples.Backbiting political narishkite is another potential gold mine for such a tax ;)");
AddReply(465581,"archeology more so indeed","son of man","kaohsiung, TW","07/17/09","you\'re in a land of old stories, which when fully told shall get you peace, what a richness meant not to be neglected.");
AddReply(465561,"Scientification for the author.","sk","USA","07/17/09","The first logical question is what the per capita spending was \"in the 1960s.\"\n\nThen there is the question of who was surveyed in the two time periods.\n\nReally, there are countless other questions I could raise.  In general, though, increasing spending in a school system does not improve objective measures of performance.");
AddReply(465551,"More importantly, Jews should first get back to Torah & that leads to all","Zion","","07/17/09","the right directions.  And, we wouldn\'t be suffering all that is going on today, for it brings true peace, one Jew to the other and extends outward to the rest of the world.!");
AddReply(465549,"US Jews are Ashkenazis not primitives.","JMK","NYC","07/17/09","");

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