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AddReply(466061,"Burning","Seymoury","Cocoa Beach, FL","07/19/09","Did they make a bracha before the burning? eh eh.");
AddReply(462771,"The Prime Directive","Jamie","The Bronx","07/12/09","Now that it\'s been said, let\'s move on");
AddReply(460846,"A Better Idea","OzVeShalom","Chicago","07/06/09","I have a better idea.  Implement corporal punishment for these sorts of offenders. If these wonderful bochurim knew their behaviour would get them a stint in the pillory or a good caning, these outrages would stop immediately.");
AddReply(460791,"Marry them off.","Pinhas","Yavneel","07/06/09","I take offense.\nPeople have all the time in the world to take strikes at bachurim.\nThese poor guys in my opinion grow up with so many walls and fences. They are likely making up for a bit of childhood they didnt get.\nThe gemara is clear at what ages a boy should get married, and that they should each be taught a trade. I dont see either happening, and I say that alot of them are crushed and unhappy. This is one way to cheer themselves up.\nLets talk about how they are being robbed of learning a trade at a young enough age, and sometimes if at all.\nI also suspect the depth of the story you are sharing. Why didnt your family help put it out?\nHow old are your sons, and why arent they out there burning stuff too? Oh, thats cause they are learning in Boro Park, and busy spray-painting and burning un- tsnius ads.\nIf they were working and married, they wouldnt bother with this stuff.");
AddReply(460568,"Where are the parents?","Hillel Levin","Shiloh","07/06/09","I think the author is correct to ask the question: Where are the parents?\n\nCould be that if they had made Aliyah and were living here in Eretz Yisroel, they would be in a much better place to know where there children are and to have discussuions with their children about the challenging situation of a \'Jewish\' government who has forgotten the HKBH is the Land Lord. \nCould be that part of our challange is that so many Torah Observant Jews fail to see that living in the land that HKBH gave to Klal Yisroel as a Heritage forever is also a Mitzvah to be observed.\nIt could very well be that this skitzoid behaviour on the part of the parents leads to the skitzoid behaviour on the part of their children.\nTime for ALL of Klal Yisroel to allign the words they speak with the actions they do. \nWant to talk? hillel.leib@gmail.com");
AddReply(460533,"Where were all these \"heroes\"...","David Baron","Jerusalem","07/06/09","Disgusting! No, that parking lot should not be opened. Burning up ones own neighborhood is no way to fight it.\n\nJust one thing, however: Where were all these heroes when the expulsions from Gush Katif happened?");
AddReply(460516,"Chilul Hashem","Chana Horowitz","Petach Tikva","07/06/09","This woman is right.  The protests are a real chilul hashem.  And the fact that many are conducted on Shabbat, where rocks are thrown, is an even greater aveyra.  Each person is responsible for his own actions.  We can try to teach by our actions, not by force.  It is Hashem\'s role to judge people, not ours.  We are supposed to set a positive example for people to follow.  The more we try to force, the more we cause hatred to religious practice. Wrong both religiously and ethically.  ");
AddReply(460489,"YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO ACT!","Riva","Betar Ilite","07/06/09","I THINK THAT you need to first meet with the local Rebemmin with as many neighbors as possible to get their aid in making an anti-protest!  i you have to get these Rebemmin a megaphone and tell them to announce that it is against Halacha to set fires and the like that can harm local residents!  Then, perhaps you do need a police presence because the fact is that someone could get seriously hurt for all this.  Lastly, a big effort has to be made to educate our children correctly in DERECH ERETZ!  THIS protest insanity is going on in many frum neighborhoods.");
AddReply(460296,"Reply to # 27","A. Parent","","07/05/09","If you\'d read my post again you\'d see the big little word, ‘SOME’ which in no wise means \'ALL\'. Thus, the truth still stands: SOME parents share the \"blame\" because of their \'bad\' influences or \'lack of\' parenting skills.\n\nOtherwise, I’m well aware of what Judaism teaches about certain ‘ages’ etc. That still doesn’t change the facts on the ground.\n");
AddReply(460284,"to #25","Shmuel","Miami","07/05/09","Let\'r worry more about creating true bnei torah and less about getting them married! If they don\'t respect their neighbors and the concept of gezel etc. I\'m sure they would make lovely, wife beating husbands. Yeah, I think shidduch is MUCH more important than menchlechkeit, NOT!");
AddReply(460279,"Yes, no and well, yes youre right","Shmuel","Miami","07/05/09","You\'re right on this issue, you\'re wrong for not standing up and identifying yourself and the the boys doing this, and you are right these yeshiva boys need supervision, or else they fall off teh grid and the derech.\n\nLastly, as a Satmar, you and all your very Holy Jewish Broterhs and sisters, should be active ion both your community and for the medinah, send the boys to nachal chareidi for a few years THAT is what is necessary to give them morals, a sense of meaning as  yid living in Eretz Hakodesh. WHen the yeshivish world comes to realize there is life outside the shtettle where everything is hush hush, they will respect life, property and existence of others, and at the same time, possibly be mekareiv those who are less fortunate in not seeing the daily miracles of the Riboneh Shel Olam!\n\n");
AddReply(460228,"Where were the rebbes???","Eliana","Brooklyn, NY","07/05/09","What a terrible chilul Hashem! You ask where were the parents. I ask, where were the rebbes??? Aren\'t they supposed to guide these young men to do the right thing? The parents should ask for their tuition money back!");
AddReply(460174,"response to haredi bashing (#6)","Alan","Bet Shemesh","07/05/09","R Yakov Horowitz posted this on his own website. He is not a haredi basher. It is ridiculous to claim this is haredi bashing. Just the opposite, R Horowitz and other haredi writers want people to know that many haredi find the tactics of burning garbage cans, throwing dirty diapers, etc... to be totally abhorrent and a Chilul Hashem.");
AddReply(460018,"Calling the police/fire brigades","Mordechai ben Reuven","Jerusalem","07/05/09","I don\'t understand why you didn\'t call the police. I heard explicitly from a gadol that if they are destroying your property (and the garbage bins are communal property), you are allowed to call the police - even on Shabbos. \n\nThey burned garbage bins in my Charedi neighborhood two weeks ago, and I called the police every night. And they came and put it out. \n\nAnd if some of them are arrested, so be it. Maybe it will wake their parents up to the reality that Moishele and Chaim Yankel aren\'t such big masmidim after all.");
AddReply(459977,"instead of chilul hashem...","rose","","07/05/09","Instead of chilul hashem, they should join the army and be be a kiddush hashem.");
AddReply(459976,"#31: Sure! The criminal always says,","D\'veed Natan","Kfar Adumim","07/05/09","I did it! NOT! The prisons are full of \'innocent\' people cause they\'ll tell you they didn\'t do it. You believe them? One thing someone else, #29, brought out, MOST of these people are Yiddish and Hebrew speaking teens and men. Not English speakers.");
AddReply(459969,"Where\'s a good film camera when we need one?","CDG","Yerushalayim","07/05/09","Digital cameras are too vulnerable to \"photoshopping.\" Be sure you don\'t retouch. \n\nNext time this observers with cameras should take pictures of the actions and of the faces of those responsible if possible, and publish them. Then the parents - or spouses - or whomever - will recognize their involved relatives. I agree with #24 that it\'s very likely hilonim are involved (wouldn\'t be the first time), even leading this heinous activity, and note #28 &29\'s words that they are not only English speakers.\n\nI know someone who witnessed it personally during a weekday while doing errands in Meah Shearim/Geula; this person had no idea what was going on, but didn\'t like it. \n\nNow we have a clue. Let\'s find out who\'s really behind all this and stop it. \n\nReal demonstrators would take care not to harm the community they\'re doing it for.");
AddReply(459963,"You left out...","Rachel","Israel","07/05/09",">>>all the talkbackers on Yeshiva World who claim to have been in the same place as the writer and ABSOLUTELY and VEHEMENTLY DISAGREED WITH HER FACTS. (especially the electricity issue.)");
AddReply(459947,"Re: #8 inappropriate","Jennifer","USA","07/05/09","It is good that she is saying something in public.  Actions of this type are well-known outside of Israel.  Words of condemnation need to be heard so that people know that not all religious Jews in Israel agrees with them.  To be honest anti-semites point to actions like these to support their position.  Now there is a piece to use to counter their argument.  Many thanks to the article\'s author.");
AddReply(459939,"American Yeshiva Students?? #2","yossi","Hagai","07/05/09","I saw mature men not just bokrim setting bins on fire. The observers mostly Haraedi men were not protesting those burning the garbage, many of them appeared ammused by what was happening.  I did not hear English speakers rather Yiddish & Hebrew.  ");
AddReply(459937,"American Yeshiva Students?? #1","yossi","Hagai","07/05/09","I walk through these neigbourhoods on my way to work at night and walked past several of the fires - what I observed was NOT groups of American yeshiva students (While I\'m sure there may have been such amongst the groups making and observing these fires).");
AddReply(459924,"A Parent",",",",","07/05/09","Right, go on blaming anyone but the \"kids\" themselves.  good way to create sociopaths even from \"healthy families.\"  Please understand that a boy becomes a man in Judaism at 13  taht means he takes on ALL the responsibilities of adulthood. WE in the West have enabled our kids to be babies until they\'re in their 20\'s then some poor spouse has to deal with finishing the job of raising them and sometimes themselves too. \nBTW, look at the pictures in A7. Those are not kids, Those are mature men with long beards. ");
AddReply(459876,"To #15","","","07/05/09","Maybe you should like to go out in the night and share your pearls of wisdom with these wayward boys?Nah didn\'t think so. Your too busy deligitimizing the experiences of others before you.Perhaps you should walk a mile in the shoes of others before telling people where to go.");
AddReply(459873,"Yeshiva Bochrim","Tal Benschar","Passaic, NJ","07/05/09","The real question is -- where is the hanhallah of the Yeshivos?  Why don\'t they just announce:  \"any bochur caught burning a garbage can will be expelled immediately.  Put on the next plane back to America (if they are American).\"  \n\nThat would do wonders for their shidduch chances, no?  ");
AddReply(459855,"More thoughts:","`A. Parent","","07/05/09","These actions parallel other questionable juvenile actions down through history; in other words, it wouldn\'t be a surprise if these youths were infiltrated and encouraged, by devious non-Torah people to commit acts that irritate righteous Jews, especially on Shabbos.\n\nShould that be the case, the author is correct in bringing these abusive actions to light; and, it becomes even more important for parents to know the whereabouts of their children.\n\nChildren from healthy families are more immune from bad influences. Children from less than ideal family situations are especially vulnerable to wrong behavior; thus, some parents share the blame. I would seek out the trouble makers.\n\nFurthermore, please, enough is enough about calling the fire department – I’m sure the author got the message. Great Message – whoever wrote this!\n");
AddReply(459851,"When I was in yeshiva","Shlomo","London","07/05/09","-we where told that if we went to a demonstration we could not say we where from __ Yeshiva, because we would have been thrown out retroactively.\nSadly you will always find a small number of disillutioned element whose sense of \'fun\' does not either reflect the seriousness of the situation or social norms");
AddReply(459817,"What to do (with sorrow)","Yehoshua","Kochav Hashahar","07/05/09","My wife and I have come up with the following suggestion, especially relevant to crowded urban neighborhoods: Take a water hose, or lots of pails of water, and dump them repeatedly on the heads of hooligans from your porches or windows. Encourage your neighbors to do the same. That is what you do when dogs fight. A little vinegar or something with a bad smell mixed in wouldn\'t hurt. Having that dumped on someone\'s  Borsalino might cool them off a bit and think twice about doing it next time. It might even send them home. And by all means call the fire dept. As for the Chilul Hashem aspect of A7 publishing this, I disagree. Yeshivaworld is a chareidi website. If they are already publishing it, it\'s fair game in the public sphere. But also talk to the kids, parents, rabbonim, however you can. But first aid first.");
AddReply(459809,"Thank you","Shira","Maale Adumim","07/04/09","Thank you for this long overdue and very important letter.  I was under the impression that such vandalism was being conducted by the Chareidi community itself.  This has lead me to move away from my identification with the Chareidi community.  I now stand corrected.  This is a grave danger to health and safety. My heart is with you");
AddReply(459808,"The REAL Chillul Hashem","Shimon","Gush Etzion","07/04/09","Yes, the real Chillul Hashem is allowing these Bochurim to continue without taking action.  If it was me living on the block of the burning garbage dumpsters, forget about the firemen, I would call the police.  It will ultimately be a worse Chillul Hashem letting these Bochurim continue their fire rampage, because anyways, the police will eventually  catch up to them, and believe me, some of these police aren\'t exactly thrilled with religious people.  Otherwise, we will continue living in the ghetto like it happened in the Holocaust, when very few Jews took action to defend themselves, and the rest is history. ");
AddReply(459677,"Maybe if they learned some Tanach...","Michael","Galut","07/03/09","then they may be correctly imbued with the midot that the Jewish tradition and Hashem seeks to impart to all Jews.\n\nUnfortunately, they just learn Gemarra, and skip Torah, Nevi\'im, and Ketuvim. I think that it mainly has to do with prestige. Learning Tanach is not held in as high esteem as learning Gemarra.\n\nbtw, I still think that it\'s great that the community protested the opening of that parking lot for Shabbat.");
AddReply(459634,"Ignorance.  Adopting the assimilationists\' definition of chillul Hashem?","Jew","Israel","07/03/09","Calling the fire dept is not a \"chillul Hashem\" ..... Aside from the rest of the article, yeshiva boys being hoodlums, not a big surprise, but that one part of the article sticks out like a sore thumb. REALLY?!\n\nWhat embarrassing ignorance.  It is a chillul Hashem that you think it\'s a chillul Hashem to call the fire dept & even published that thought in a public forum. U make us religious people sound like complete idiots w/ no regard for human life chas veshalom.\n\nO what will the goyim say.  O what will the secular Israeli press say.  Who CARES!  Do the right thing, ask questions later. Don\'t be a chassid shoteh like these bored yeshiva kids with all their free time to cause trouble (perhaps they need to play sports in free time rather than set fire to things?).\n\nWasn\'t it REALLY a chillul Hashem when IDF soldiers expelled Jews from homes in Gush Katif? Ohhh, the goyim liked that");
AddReply(459528,"Oh c\'mon!","shimon","israel","07/03/09","Cant call the fire dept because its a hillul hashem?  Puh-lease!  If you dont wanna call the fire dept you suffer the consequences of your own stupidity.");
AddReply(459522,"Hypocrite","Marcel","Florida","07/03/09","The bochrim have not done a miniscule of the damage that the corrupt,cowardly,retreating leadership of Israel has done to the nation. Those Jews thrown out of their homes for moslems missiles in return and HamastanGaza still suffer and whwre is your concern Satmar ? \nWhy are you not protesting their evil deeds and demanding justice for them ?\nAs long as evil men like Shimon Peres and the criminal Olmert hold their heads up high ,the Holy One of Israel will raise up growing trouble,more than burning dumpsters, for the nation of idol worshipers who bow to Washington and not Him.");
AddReply(459515,"  Pearl, ## 6,8,9 and 11  ",",",",","07/03/09","Some of us did point out her error in not calling the fire brigade  that\'s not a condemnation. ## 6&8 need to see below. For my part I recognize that she did it our fear of committing a chilul Hashem herself but it\'s still an error that can lead to real tragedy. \nTo ##6 & 8, Not everything negative that is spoken is Lashon Ha\'ra. Sometimes it must be spoken to protect and correct others.  Check out The Chofetz Chaim on this. It\'s tricky but it is sometimes appropriate to speak out.  \n\n9 & 11. There is no excuse for your Israel bashing Lashon ha\'ra. If you are so unhappy here, first of all, keep it to yourselves and second, there are several flights a day heading WEST. Have a nice trip. ");
AddReply(459514,"boo hoo","Elieazer","Machne rimon","07/03/09","oh how terrible only one sixty year old man went to put out the fire where was the rest of the residents in the nieghbor hood if its a danger to health wich it is you can all go to put out the fire as far as those idiots go you can beat them i got beat when i was a kid it helped me i\'m sure it would help them to");
AddReply(459502,"Burning perfectly good trash cans in your OWN neighborhoods?","Yakov","Ofra","07/03/09","Whats the point in doing that? Peacefully Block roads if you want, but don\'t torture your own people. Not very smart!");
AddReply(459491,"Demonstrations","Pearl","Yerushalayim","07/03/09","What these bochrim are doing is pure Chilul Hashem and THEY  should be condemned NOT the writer who expressed herself so well in this article.  ");
AddReply(459478,"Bochurim becoming Israeli - what is so suprising?","Hayley","Rem Bet Shemesh","07/03/09","The writer is correct in finding the behaviour she saw so against Jewish values but it is certainly in line with Israeli \"values\". This is part of the vision of the new Jewish people - hooligans and vandals just like any other people. It is really a success for secular Zionism.");
AddReply(459474,"Finally!","D\'veed Natan","Kfar Adumim","07/03/09","It\'s about time the residents of the neighborhoods stood up for what is right. At some of these \'mechoa\' you would think it was drunken Cossacks on the streets or Arabs lynching Jews. As she said, this is not behavior appropriate to anyone; and a great chilul HaShem. I\'ve never seen animals in the wild behave in such a manner (and I have been around). There is nothing worse to see than, drunken, cursing, violent, destructive Yeshiva students on a wild rampage through Jerusalem\'s religious neighborhoods. Parents: force the Yeshivot to become responsible for the behavior of their talmidim. FYI: the SMELL is horrible and lingers for days. Your child is (supposedly) davening in that stench!");
AddReply(459470,"Choking smoke is a fixture living in Israel.","","","07/03/09","When I made aliya a chiloni neighbor stunk up my building roasting a pig he bought in the old city on the mirpesset. Imagine I had to come to Yerushalayim Ir Hakodesh to be overcome with pig smoke.As the apartment only had radiator heat and no A/C it was impossible to air out the apartment.He would not stop not then or on subsequent barbeques.Perhaps you should have taken picture had them published so the guilty party would be shamed into not repeating act. These days there is what to protest In Yerushalayim.Better to leave the protesting to the adults.Once in my neighborhood pushtakim disconnected gas from building and vented to atmosphere. The tank must have been full for you could smell gas for hundreds of meters. A bus could have set a blaze.Lawlessness has spread to the charadi youth.Arresting them is necessary as their teachers are not having enough good influece on their behavior.");
AddReply(459459,"Inappropriate","zevhill","Israel","07/03/09","As a Dati-Leumi website you should not be airing someone else\'s dirty laundry in public. I am pretty sure that it is \"avak lashon hara\" and you should ask a \"sh\'eilat rav\"");
AddReply(459453,"YOu are so right but",",",",","07/03/09","my dear sister and neighbor it is NOT a chillul Hashem to call the fire brigade when lives are in danger and surely black smoke is as much of a threat to some, those with lung conditions,  as the actual flames.  What if that fire had spread to a home? That is why the fire brigade is on duty on Shabbat. Do you think only the chilonim have emergencies or that angels will be sent to inform them? Please think about pikuach nefesh next time. You are not in a position to understand the extent of injuries and you have no way of knowing what a natural phenomenon such as fire will do next.");
AddReply(459444,"Hareidi Bashing","Dom","Tel Aviv","07/03/09","Why is A7 reprinting this?\nObvious hareidi bashing.\nA7 should be ashamed of themselves.");
AddReply(459443,"What\'s a Satmer Doing Here Anyway","Andy","Jerusalem","07/03/09","Holier than thou again?\n\nThis bothers you but the Yassam animals permanently injuring our finest young men don\'t bother you?\n\nYou need to have your heart examined,\n");
AddReply(459434,"The writer is so right.","johnson","LA","07/03/09","This article tears me. Soon, my son would like to learn in Israel. Should I send an 18 year old? I would be horrified to hear that he has time to join violent protests.\n\nThis doesn\'t mean that I favor Chillul Shabbos. However, history has shown that there are other ways. As more people find their way back to authentic Judaism the need for parking places will disappear. Let those who protest go out to do some kiruv and they will effect better results.");
AddReply(459420,"Ellie Katz","","","07/03/09","BS\"D\n\nThank you. Parents need to know this, as do the mashgichim of the yeshivot. Please consider taking pictures next time.\n\nThis needs to stop.");
AddReply(459395,"I finally agree with a Satmar!","Reb Reuven","","07/03/09","");
AddReply(459379,"yeshiva bochrim","Leibel","vancouver","07/03/09","I can only say that this was a true chillul hashem to say the least, however I always learned that when you or other peoples life are in danger and after reading this story that certainly was the case someone should of called the fire department,chas v\'shalom people could have died");

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