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AddReply(429744,"Israel Needs More Jews to be Israeli","dav lev","Burbank. CAUSA","04/28/09","Let\'s put things in context. My state (Cal) has 38m people, 3m illegals. 11m are Hispanic (mainly from Mexico or their offspring). 11m Hispanics DO have considerable influence on the rest of us. Millions of \"whites\" have relocated to border states. Israeli Jews cannot relocate similarly. They are basically stuck. Our immigration laws have tightened. Few Jews remain in the old Soviet Union. However, I have suggested that Israel needs 1-3m more Jews, all persuations., doesn\'t matter. To the entire world, a Jew is a Jew is a Jew. Only we discriminate..don\'t fool yourselves folks. \"Its only the garb\" as gentile think and say. Kassams and Grads do NOT discriminate..from Bnai Brak to Eilat, from Haifa to Ashdad to Safed. Get it!");
AddReply(429742,"To Michelle: There are No Excuses Tolerable","dav lev","Burbank. CAUSA","04/28/09","To Michelle: one would think that such a miniscule country (7.5m people) with 5.5m Jews, could control it\'s illegal population. I am frankly shocked at the negligence. A state ID card might help...not able to be reproduced illegally. You say the Mormon marriage is allowed. I say, why? Perhaps allowing those Russians to convert to Judaism (if desired) under less than Halachic requirements, would be adviseable? As far as who is a Jew, EVERY and ANY Jew, of a Jewish mother, is a Jew, if not practicing or perhaps lax. Living in Israel, believing in G-d, observing the Sabbath, giving charity..(the 10 commandments) makes one Jewish. I mean, the Haredi don\'t recognize Israel or observe it\'s memorials (to the dead). So! Let\'s not cut our noses to spite our faces. Sharon was right: 1m more Jews within 10 to 20 years...Jews who accept their Jewishness..would be beneficial. Israel, unify!!!");
AddReply(429741,"Hitler and Himmler Are Laughing","dav lev","Burbank. CAUSA","04/28/09","To further prove my point, 4 points: (1) Syria is demanding the Golan be ceded, prior to talks (2) Abbas is demanding the pre-67 borders AND UN right of return under any peace agreement (3) Syria/Turkey conduced joint meneuvers (4) Hamas-Fatah unified gov\'t can rule a two state. All the above are recipes for Israel\'s destruction, peace by piece. The Arabs have been outsmarting Israel since Intifada 2. Rabin/Peres were tired (they admitted it)., thus Madrid and Oslo 1 and 2. Is Israel better or worse off today? Think about it. When Iran tests their atomic bomb..if successful, everything changes. The fear of attacking Israel will end. What is next, a surrogate cell explosion in downtown Tel Aviv? Unless Israel firms up it\'s approach, puts teeth into it\'s statements and actually unifies the Jewish world...look for real problems. Hitler knew it, and was successful..Will we learn ever?");
AddReply(423246,"Reply to Nitzan","NB","TA","04/08/09","This is absolutely correct to ignore the Palestinians in Gaza since nobody is thinking these days about going back to Gaza. In practical terms we can be only talking about the West Bank. \n\nThe issue of non Jewish non Arab citizens in Israel is open to debate since many of those have their children grow as secular Israelis, means native Hebrew speakers. In terms of loyalties and self identification these people tend to identify with Israel and not with the Arabs. Many of these are even more right wing than regular Israelis are. If it comes to the demographic race vs the Arabs these people should be  counted with the Israeli side.");
AddReply(420380,"#9 dav lev - I totally agree, well said!","Gary","Monterey, CA","04/01/09","");
AddReply(420377,"#2 Well said!!","Gary","Monterey, CA","04/01/09","");
AddReply(420360,"Part 2 - Demographic solution?","Michelle","Vancouver","04/01/09","Since politicians are afraid to speak out in favor of Arab emigration, maybe the role should be taken up by non-political Israelis. Would it be possible to set up a volunteer organization that would - in a very legal and diplomatic way - take on this task that politicians consider too hot to handle? They could provide information, raise funds, give generous grants to families, and do all the coordination necessary to facilitate their exit. \n\nPerhaps, once this shows signs of success, the politicians, including those in government, will feel emboldened and help out.\n\nThis should have been done during the good years, before the financial meltdown, but considering how much European governments love their Arabs, how could they refuse them entry.  But they are not the greatest obstacle. The Israeli government is, by its refusal to tackle this issue.\n\nIt\'s not easy but it must be done.");
AddReply(420354,"Thanks to all of you who did further research","Michelle","Vancouver","03/31/09","I tend to agree with those who have a less optimistic view of actual Jewish population growth. It\'s not as hopeless as the fear-mongering left would like to make it appear, but it\'s not good either, in the long term.\n\nI\'m becoming a bit of a pest mentioning the need to promote Arab emigration, and I apologize if I\'m getting on your nerves, but I really believe that Israeli Jews are missing an EXTREMELY crucial window of opportunity that may close soon. \n\nShaul, thank you for your recent reply to a question of mine.  You said that the reason for the reluctance by politicians to speak out in favor of Arab emigration is fear of being labeled racists and of being outlawed. You\'re right. It has happened before.\n\nConsidering that according to Arab polls, many Arabs living on Jewish land have expressed their desire to emigrate, assisting them in this regard would be a win-win solution.");
AddReply(420232,"It\'s not that rosey (part 3 - final)","Y","Nitzan","03/31/09","In summary, the percentage of Jews in any geographic boundry (with or without territories) is still decreasing regardless of improving fertility data.  Massive aliyah under the existing Law of Return actually reduced the percentage of Jews among Israeli citizens.\nIsrael needs to be proactive in improving our demographic situation; here are some options:\n1.  amend the Law of Return\n2.  apply child allowance to Jews only, say through the Jewish Agency\n3.  provide financial encentives for arabs (especially citizen arabs) to emigrate\n4.  provide a free Israeli university education to any arab female with a required course in feminism\n5.  settle more Jews in heavily occupied arab areas - arabs hate that - it destroys their morale.");
AddReply(420220,"It\'s not that rosey (part 2)","Y","Nitzan","03/31/09","5. The annual growth rate for arabs is still nearly double the Jewish growth rate (2006 to 2007:  Jews 1.6%, arab 2.8%) \n6.   The percentage of Jewish citizens in 1988 before the massive Russian aliyah was 81.7%,  Today, it has DECREASED substantially to 75.6%.  The Russian aliyah included substantial numbers of non Jews.  During this period, the citizen arabs MAINTAINED their 19-20% of the population due to high natural increase and marriage of territory arabs with citizen arabs.\n7.  Using Bennett Zimmerman\'s (American Research Initiative) estimate for arabs in Judea and Samaria (1.35 million), the percentage of Jews west of the Jordan not including Gaza is only 63.7 percent.  Using Israeli demographer Sergio DellaPergola\'s estimate our percentage is below 60% (including Gaza we\'re already at parity using DellaPergola\'s data).\n");
AddReply(420200,"it\'s not that rosey (part 1)","Y","Nitzan","03/31/09","A number of criticisms (all data from the Israeli Bureau of Sstatistics):\n1.  The 67% of Jews is misleading as you simply ignore the arabs of Gaza (a million or more?).  This figure no longer refers to the percentage of Jews west of the Jordan River, nor does it refer to the percentage of Jews in Israel plus the \"territories\".  Why not lop off the arabs of Shechem or Hevron to achieve an even rosier demographic picture.\n2.  Moslem fertility among citizen arabs is still substantially higher than among Israeli Jews (3.9 births per female to 2.8). \n3.   Your 117,000 birth figure includes non arab christians and those of no religion.\n4.  An important determinant of population growth besides fertility is age at first reproduction (generation time).  Citizen arabs marry younger than Israeli Jews for both genders (males:  26 for arabs, 28 for Jews,  females:\n22 for arabs, 27 for Jews).\n\n");
AddReply(420121,"Friedman, Carter, Baker, are Fools","dav lev","Burbank. CAUSA","03/31/09","I believe to one poster that the people mentioned do, in fact, have Israel\'s interests at heart. Look, Israel has a huge minority that didn\'t vote the right. People like Yossi Beilin are simply being fooled into believing that the Arabs and Jews can live side by side in peace, love, harmony and friendship. They can break bread together and sit around a huge table talking about the bad old days. I don\'t. I am convinced that Arab deeds, including Abbas latest statement about how Israel voted for the \"settlers\" and NOT peace, combined with \"Land Day\", show the real Arab intent. Oh these Arabs are clever, they know how we Jews think. But we don\'t understand the Arab mind. Dayan and Begin, Shamir and Ben-Gurion DID. That is the crux of this problem, we are naive, gullible, delusional people..fighting one another., while Rome is burning. Friedman, is a fool. ");
AddReply(420120,"The million-and-a-half person gap!!","Shaul","","03/31/09","Here\'s the link I was looking for:\n\nhttp://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/pademographics.html\n\nThis site quotes, with links to, studies showing that in 2004, the Palestinian-Arab population was closer to 2.4 million than the 3.8 million reported by the Palestinian Authority.\n\nThe page, produced by Joseph E. Katz, quotes a position paper titled \"Palestinian Demography – Squandering US Policy Makers and Taxpayers\" by none other than Yoram Ettinger, author of the current article.\n\nI\'m quite sure this has already been cited on Arutz Sheva.\n\nRequired reading for all!!!");
AddReply(420022,"James Baker, Jimmy Carter, Thomas Friedman, Olmert and Tzipi are Demo Fatalists.","Yitzchaq","San Diego","03/31/09","Do they all have Israel\'s interest at heart?");
AddReply(419962,"We Are All In the Same Kettle, Ask Hitler, Assad and Abbas","dav lev","Burbank. CAUSA","03/31/09","I believe Arik Sharon predicted one million more Jews would move to Israel within 10 years. Perhaps encouraging less, but in fewer years, might be viable? \nFor example, 500,000 RIGHT thinking Jews, would add assets to Israel. These Jews should be productive, building families, working at jobs which aid Israel..and going into the army. Israel can have 10m Jews within 20 years. Many US Jews, frankly, need purpose, focus and inspiration. They are dominant in saving the whales, and saving Darfur, but ignore their own people and causes. Mr. Madoff\'s thievery didn\'t help, but we can overcome. To one poster, we are ALL Jews, Kassams and Fajrs and Grads and Iranian nukes do NOT discriminate. Live and let live..we are all in the same kettle, and it\'s burning. ");
AddReply(419763,"Any hard figures on actual Arab population and emigration?","Shaul","","03/30/09","Are there any reliable figures on the actual number of Arabs in Judaea, Samaria and Gaza, and on Arab immigration and emigration? Since 1994 the State of Israel has not, of course,  been counting Arab population in these areas, and even before then the figures were not considered reliable.\n\nIt\'s been said (and written) that the Arab population is often vastly overstated, for propaganda purposes, of course.");
AddReply(419705,"Post # 2 - \"The discussion ...\" was mine.  ","Michelle","Vancouver","03/30/09","Sorry, I forgot to type up my name.\n\nBy the way, here are links to proposals for dealing with Arabs in Yesha and the issue of Arab emigration:\n\nBenny Elon\'s plan.\n\nhttp://www.therightroadtopeace.com/eng/defaulteng.html\n\nAn essay by Martin Sherman:\n\nhttp://israelagainstterror.blogspot.com/2008/01/new-paradigm-for-israeli-palestinian_19.html\n\nLet\'s promote Gazan emigration, for starters.\n\n\n");
AddReply(419635,"Well, I can\'t argue against the facts, but","Gary","Monterey, CA","03/30/09","don\'t allow the situation to change and become more like France and its Arab problem.  Some day ahead, the mullahs in France will have the majority.  You may smile now, just don\'t allow it to reverse.");
AddReply(419629,"The discussion I almost never hear about","","","03/30/09","There is an urgent need to debunk the fear of even discussing how to promote Arab EMIGRATION.  \n\nStudies and essays have been published, but they are left there, on the web, and are treated rarely and gingerly, as if handling legal nitroglycerin.  \n\nI agree that politicians have to mind their manners very carefully, \'cause Big-Brother-Supreme-Court could pounce on them for ... I don\'t know... incitement?\n\nThat\'s funny, because anyone is free to discuss and promote Jewish ethnic cleansing, and there have even been proposals to buy Yesha Jews out, but the same cannot be discussed regarding the Arabs. If the law supposedly applies equally to all citizens, why not?\n\nSo, it\'s time to confront the legal basis of this self-censorship and fear of Supreme Court Wrath, and speak out in favor of assisting Arab emigration. It could be done privately, to spare politicians the responsibility.");
AddReply(419618,"Some truth to the demographic threat","Michelle","Vancouver","03/30/09","I completely agree that the left has used the fear of a demographic Arab takeover for its own purposes.\n\nHaving said that, there is some truth to it, and we should not feel too overconfident about future Jewish growth.  \n\nMany of those Russian immigrants were not Jews at all.  Many Ethiopian Jews have reverted to Christianity.  Many of those counted as Jews by the census are seculars who feel only a remote affiliation to Judaism.  And then there are the expats, a good number of them, who may still be counted as Israelis but who live abroad.  \n\nFurthermore, there is a constant influx of Arabs into Israel.  Borders are porous, IDs easy to fake.  Polygamy is tolerated, and illegal Bedouin towns are expanding, with wives smuggled in from the outside.  And one of these days the Supreme Court may dictate that there should be no limits to Arab family reunification.\n\n");

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