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AddReply(334078,"Quality of Filter Essential","Peter Jeffery","Arizona USA","08/17/08","Employing an average or poor filter is almost as bad as not having any at all.  And even really good filters are not 100% effective.\n\nBSafe Online is currently the best filter on the market.  It is extremely effective.\n\nI am in total agreement with these rabbis.  Not nearly enough time, money, and attention is spent on this issue.");
AddReply(332692,"sk","Velvel","silver spring","08/12/08","I don\'t know about \"calcified such and such\" but that seems to me not scientific at all, but more like some kind of kabbalistic metaphor.  ");
AddReply(332359,"Velvel (57)","sk","USA","08/11/08","If science supported Fish & eyeGuard, it would be pure chance, because when these guys write, they spout nonsense such as \"calcified neural pathways.\"\n\nI seriously doubt this porn addiction business, though.  An addiction is more than a conditioned response.  The brains of hard drug users, for example, look radically different in terms of their electrical patterns--and not just when they\'re using.\n\nBut even if this qualified as an addiction, I am absolutely sure that nothing on the referenced sites will help.\n\nUnless you really believe that nerves become bones (\"calcified\").");
AddReply(332358,"JTP ...  huh?","sk","USA","08/11/08","");
AddReply(332317,"JTP: &nbsp;You haven\'t been reading my posts.","Velvel","silver spring","08/10/08","I haven\'t supported any status quo.  I haven\'t mimicked any Israeli status quo.  I never once supported the Oslo treason, nor do I ever support any traitorous land-give-aways.  If anyone is peace now, it\'s you, pal.\n\nYour cryptic posts have never made any sense, but I had mercy on you.  Now you have forced me to point out what a bumbling fool you are.\n\nDid you fail to notice that my posts are \"on-topic\" of this article?\n\nWhile you\'re rambling on about \'cross-reverse psychology mind control patterns\' and attempting to \"calm down\" and \"soothe\" those who face a potential second holocaust, during the next expulsion, while you prattle nonsense over the computer, I may be there fighting against it and getting my teeth knocked in.  Save your accusations for someone who deserves to be accused, you worthless punk.");
AddReply(332123,"#56 #57 #","JTP","USA","08/09/08","Velvel, I thought \'you\' were from peacenow?  Or maybe one of the \"pro-this\" singalongs that post the same tripe, year after year?  \n\nThe Israeli collective unconcious is constantly reading gesture.\n\nEverybody knows the game.  Stay within status quo lines and somebody/something will pat you on the head, or pay you.  Secret handshake.  Israel is a popular target for desperados because abusing traumatized Israelis is proof that you\'ll go all the way to submit to authority known.\n\nCharacters such as Velvel always contradict topic and do so in a very rote manner.  No finger prints needed.  No reverse lookup.  The demeanor is the marker.  The demeanor.\n\nThe average person has learned to mimick the status quo.  By default they can\'t cross intellectual lines, it doesn\'t happen.  It\'s not what they say.  It\'s what they don\'t say because they can\'t think of it.");
AddReply(331865,"sk the science actually supports them from what little I\'ve read","Velvel","silver spring","08/08/08","Just like with any pleasure, the pleasure sensory is stimulated in the brain.  Simple neuroscience. Whether its cocaine, a tasty sandwich, or pleasure one might get from bad things during movie, the serotonin levels spike & the dopaminergic pleasure pathway is activated, in the standard \"addiction\" pattern. Little do people know, we are actually \"addicted\" to food, but that\'s a healthy addiction, and most people are able to moderate their food intake.   The same CANNOT be said for mind altering drugs & the porno.\n\nI believe I read that porn was shown to be MORE powerfully addictive than most drugs in one study.  It\'s not a big surprise or a big wonder why that would be.  It\'s an intense pleasure stimulation even more direct than a hard drug.  2 2...  I have also read that upon repeated exposure to certain types of images, one will seek out more and more perverse types of images..");
AddReply(331861,"Yehuda in Monsey:  I doubt #46 is really an \"avraham\" or in bnei brak ","Velvel","silver spring","08/08/08","He is probably a \"peace now\" traitor sabateur posing as a \"haredi Jew\" trying to instigate hatred among the various groups of Orthodox and rightwing Jews.  Only a peace-now-type would make comments that dumb.  Our enemies seek our disunity because they prosper from it.  ");
AddReply(331824,"#46 B\'nei Brak-Whose problem??","Yehuda","Monsey","08/08/08","I\'m not sure how you posted on this site w/o going online-this for you is a terrible Issur! But- besides that-I think you might want to check your facts first. You would be beyond stunned if you knew how many thousands of \"Haredim\" also stumble in this nisayon called the internet. If you had a dime for each Haredi who has succumbed to this-you\'d be a rich man-\n\n\nBut besides that-what about all the thousands upon thousands of \"Torah-related\" sites that exist??  I agree that the internet is dangerous, but so is driving a vehicle.  Driving can be very helpful, but you must use caution.  So to here- there are excellent Torah related learning sites as well-but-use a little caution!!");
AddReply(331630,"I see Fish is hawking his wares again.","sk","USA","08/07/08","Along with eyeGuard, of course.  The Laurel & Hardy of the anti-porn set.\n\nAnyway, I\'m not taking a position on this so-called \"addiction,\" as I don\'t know the science behind it.  But one thing is for sure:  the nonsense that Fish & eyeGuard are providing has no medical or scientific basis.  If you really find that you can\'t function because of porn, see a professional, as dysfunction *is* a psychological problem.  ");
AddReply(331486,"You are in denial if you claim this is a problem for teens only!!!","Not Just Teens!!!!!","Galut","08/07/08","Every living breathing man from 18 to 120 faces this incredible challenge!   Any man who says it doesn\'t affect him is a LIAR or in denial!   Stop pinning it on teens only as if they are \'weird\' or \'guilty.\'   \n\nEVERY man has to deal with this challenge, we are all in this, no one is abnormal or perverse, we all are tempted by this and we must all fight it.   You can win.   It takes time and hard work and discipline.  The path can be gradual (whatever it takes you to get there, go for it).  But we can all defeat this challenge, but never forget and never be misled, we are all plagued by it.");
AddReply(331485,"Why is #46 on the internet which is ASSUR according to his rabbis!","Velvel","silver spring","08/07/08","#46 in bnei brak?   LOL, more like a saboteur sitting in who knows where maybe lakewood where Internet is BANNED yet everyone has it and EVERYONE uses it including the RABBIS!!!!\n\nIf you are in bnei brak #46 why aren\'t you being a good \"haredi Jew\" instead of an internet Jew, and listen to your rabbis who ban the internet?   Isn\'t that what a \"haredi Jew\" does?  Just ask the rabbis his word is gold, even if his word says let your enemies kill you but don\'t forget to say a bracha.....");
AddReply(331467,"to #50","eyeGuard","","08/07/08","If you work with youth in these areas, please send me your contact info for my site www.guardureyes.com (Therapy section). Send e-mail to eyes.guard@gmail.com. Thanks");
AddReply(331389,"To #46","Rafi","Yerushalayim","08/07/08","As someone who has worked extensively with both dati leumi and haredi youth, I can say that the problem is actually worse among the haredi youth. My thinking is that because the dati leumi youth are more physically active and more connected to nature and the land, that this serves as an outlet to letting off some steam, making them more balanced.");
AddReply(331361,"to 46","yby","Israel","08/07/08","Dati Leumi problem? hahahahahah You must be kidding! I am certain that modern orthodox parents who train their children handling the ills of the world spend far less time surfing for porn than the haredim who would like their women to walk around like muslims. Dont try and shirk your responsibilities as a parent by hiding behind Torah. There is a world out there to live in and if you cannot handle it then lock yourself up in a room and throw away the key.");
AddReply(331328,"Reply to #3","Aharon Tuvia","Jerusalem & USA","08/06/08","Yes, Hashem created everything for his honor, including beautiful women.  It is an honor to Hashem for that beauty to be employed in marriage with her husband.  Displaying it all over the internet and other forms of public media a misuse of what Hashem created, and that is no honor!");
AddReply(331327,"Dati Leumi answers back","Zev","","08/06/08","What could be more pornographic than supporting haters of Torah who surrender pieces of Eretz Yisrael to the goyim? Those who live in glass houses shouldn\'t throw stones.");
AddReply(331325,"Dati Leumi problem alone","Avraham","Bnei Brak","08/06/08","This is what you get for bringing Internet into your homes. Instead of raising Torah scholars you are raising a generation of pornography surfers. What do you expect? You can\'t live in two worlds  - kedusha and tuama at the same time. A Jew is either a Haredi Jew, true to the Torah, or an Internet Jew, with all of the averos that that entails. Face it.  ");
AddReply(331283,"let\'s face it - without pornography the Internet wouldn\'t last","Dr. M","NY","08/06/08","");
AddReply(331277,"torah approach","Dani","NY","08/06/08","sex is meant to be the ultimate connection that one has with a person that he cares about and loves. If you engage in sexual activity in any other form you are only serving yourself and abusing the other person by using them to fullfill your own selfish desires. The word \"ahava\" means to give (in aramaic) because you only love a person who you want to give to. Watching \"soft\" porn to arouse you for sex is a form of abuse to your spouse and exteremely selfish.");
AddReply(331274,"THE MOST DANGEROUS MAN IN THE M.E. (maybe the world)","JTP","USA","08/06/08","(off topic)\n\nI don\'t have any heros (of male gender), but if I did, Tzvi would be in the top ten.\n\nHe leaves Calif., the raging fires, rampant crime, and endless exaggerated misleading images of intimacy/ecstasy.\n\nTzvi champions the single most profound issue (imo).\n\nTalking about \"it\" is to beckon the unconcious emotion of many many.  Denial being \"the\" fundamental control mechanism of a stratified hierarchical system.  \n\nPeople react to the topic, you may have noticed.  I\'m amazed that this comment thread is so tame.  You\'d think the usual spam suspects had recently been kicked in the family jewels.\n\nIt takes a real man to say; that is facade, this is reality.\n\nYou\'re okay Tzvi.");
AddReply(331218,"To #28 Tzvi in N.Y","eyeGuard","","08/06/08","What are the numbers to the confidential hotlines? I would like to add that info to our site under our \"Therapy Options\" page at http://www.guardureyes.com/GUE/Tips/TipsTherap.asp");
AddReply(331209,"Why focus on us?","Addicted Teenager","","08/06/08","I can testify that the propblem is real and widespread, but why focus on young people. As the expresssion goes, \"Like father like son\". ");
AddReply(331204,"#37 & #39","Davis","Old City","08/06/08","37 - if you are thinking that about Tvzi, maybe that\'s your problem.\n39 - sex is wonderful with one\'s wife at the proper time and in the proper manner. Otherwise it is strictly trafe.");
AddReply(331159,"internet inclination","Not sure","USA","08/06/08","No doubt, there are better ways to spend your time than glued to internet porn sites.  But it was the church that made sex and all related things \"bad\".  Maybe Rabbi Fishman needs see what is on the other side from the \"embroidered hole in the sheet\".  If sex is so bad, why did G-d make it so physically and mentally pleasant?  If procreation is the reason, then why not just make it a mechanical, periodic impulse devoid of the tactile senses?");
AddReply(331156,"For the Full Story","eyeGuard","","08/06/08","For the Full Story of the Bachur above and our subsequent correspondence with him, see here http://www.guardureyes.com/GUE/Stories/Determined4.asp");
AddReply(331155,"Strange Article","Just A Thought","Jerusalem","08/06/08","To Tzvi, the author: Why the constant obsession with young boys and their sexual habits?");
AddReply(331154,"midian","yoav","boston","08/06/08","The only way billaam found a chink in am yisraels armour was the znut immorality of the midianite prostitutes/ women . As far as spiritually a man viewing pornography deffinitely covers his soul  with tumah especially so if he spills his seed . The main tshuvah for this according to rav nachman of breslov is saying ten tehillim , mikvah to clean oneself . Also one creates shaidim demonic entities that can haraass one forever so the kriat shema at night kills them . Especially good is to learn the arizals kavanot for them . A filter is of necesssity ! If a man has a pretty prostitute in the house he\'s putting a stumbling block before himself ! I do agree though the eastern european yeshiva bochur might be very vulnerable to internet pornography sublimating it for the lack of love / lust he finds in his studies or life . this must be adressed by the decent rabbis asap .");
AddReply(331148,"There is Hope","eyeGuard","","08/06/08","Visit www.guardureyes.com and start your journey to recovery! Hundreds of tips, a daily chizuk e-mail list, a forum, a weekly hot-line and many stories (the story told by the Bachur in the article above was posted on Tzvi\'s forum and the bachur asked that the story be sent to guardureyes since he wanted to remain anonymous).");
AddReply(331145,"Re:#24 Good Perspective","A Jew","Any Town","08/06/08","");
AddReply(331130,"Teen from Ofra, that\'s not the way","Hadassa DeYoung","Elon Moreh","08/06/08","I understand your pain. The rabbis\' lack of unified rulings and wishy-washyness cost me personally my home and my community in K\'far Darom. But that\'s not a valid reason to junk the Torah. Not all the rabbis were weak and at least 50 major rabbis had the integrity back disobeying orders. Find yourself a rabbi whom you can respect. I assure you that there is one.");
AddReply(331092,"To # 28","Tzvi","New York","08/06/08","Kudos to you for seeking help, There are confidential Phone lines to organizations that care. They are very UNDERSTANDING and non judgmental. Try them.");
AddReply(331089,"To #28","Another Teen","Ofra","08/06/08","Do\'nt stop, enjoy your teenage years, and don\'t let the adults and their Rabbis with all their BS guilt trip you ... it ai\'nt so bad. Look how they f----d up the whole country and they\'re telling us what to do?");
AddReply(331087,"Warning","No Name","","08/06/08","I think talking about this subject does more harm than good.After reading the article I did a little investigating to see for myslf and spent four hours surfing pornographic sites. I hope I\'m not hooked.");
AddReply(331086,"#27","Miriam","Jerusalem","08/06/08","First you are hurting your children if you let them surf indiscriminately. Also a person is not allowed to injure himself. Watching pornography or sites that turn women into sexual objects is like swallowing poison. I think your principles are mistaken.");
AddReply(331085,"How do you stop?","Somebody","","08/06/08","I am fifteen. After school before my parents gt home from work I watch things that I shouldn\'t on the computer. Sometimes for hours. I\'d like to stop but I don\'t know how. I have no one to talk to about it. I can\'t ask my parents to install a filter cause then theyll know. ");
AddReply(331084,"Rabbis get lost!","Jacob","Maryland","08/06/08","What a person does in his own home is his business.As long as he doesn\'t hurt anyone else he is free to do what he wants.");
AddReply(331083,"The Chofetz Chaim would have gone bonkers","Eli","Petach Tikva","08/06/08","The letter of the Chofetz Chaim fom the \"Where are the Rabbis\" link is an eye-opener. And that was way back then way before the Internet. Today he probably would have gone around house to house with a sledge hammer to smash every computer he found.   ");
AddReply(331006,"To Mr. Monsey, #21","Aryeh","Katamon, Jerus.","08/05/08","Why did the land vomit you out?");
AddReply(331000,"Priorities...","AnotherReligiousJew","Yerushalayim","08/05/08","Look at how \"hot under the collar\" everybody gets when it comes to the issue of sex. The fact that people think that pornography is the worst crime in the world shows where their mind is at. (Those same people cruelly preach to teenagers in the name of Torah that it is crime to masturbate.) I wish someone would write an article with the passion of this article that condemns the real problem in Israel -- the way people treat each other (including among the religious, both haredi and dati leumi) -- the nastiness of the people in modern day Israel, their lack of manners, their complete disregard for the feelings, property and even lives of their fellow Jews. This is (IMHO) what G-d really cares about, not whether some 15 year old with ravaging hormones looks at a naked woman on the computer.");
AddReply(330987,"To #\'s 7 & 16: You have no shame! ","Hebrew Hammer","Promised Land","08/05/08","you dishonor yourselves! Do teshuvah or fall on your swords.");
AddReply(330948,"Turned off by #7\'s turn on","Orthodox Jew","USA","08/05/08","I can\'t speak for the settlers in Yesha or for Dati Leumi Jews in Israel, but Orthodox Jews don\'t watch softcore videos to turn themselves on.");
AddReply(330947,"Reaction to Eli K from Yesha","D. Levy","Monsey","08/05/08","I hope we haven\'t been donating our money to Yesha so that settlers can watch soft porn with their wives. If that\'s the case, no wonder the land vomited you out from Gush Katif. ");
AddReply(330926,"To #7 and #16","Proud to Be a Jew","Ariel","08/05/08","Didn\'t David HaMelech have many wives and concubines? Didn\'t Yehuda go to a prostitute and out of this union eventually come the line of David? An excess of anything is not good, (too much food can lead to being fat), but there are far worse things in the world than pornography. People need love and sex and physical contact and if the current cold and distant modern dati leumi world (which still feeds off the anti-sex values Eastern European Jewish society) does not give young people that contact, then of course they will get it from the computer, and they should! So the parents\' generation are the cause of this problem, because they hold onto values which they believe to be \"Jewish\" but are really Eastern European.");
AddReply(330925,"Ecstasy Vs. Pornography (part 2)","JTP","USA","08/05/08","Mania is evidence of denial.  Denial being where a spirit, or state of mind, doesn\'t arrive, isn\'t present.  The presence of such is an old old pattern.  \n\nI find tremendous irony.  Some portray \'sophistication\' while exhibiting traits of mania.  At the same time I note that \'some\' religious people don\'t exhibit mania (and literally are attacked to force some anxiety from them).  Got that?\n\nThis won\'t change though.  \n\nThe pattern is older than the stone of Moses\' house.  If we can\'t see the good during a storm, then we can\'t see the storm coming or the good always present.  We can\'t always filter out what\'s tokenly gilded and constantly in front of us either.  Best to understand what it is.  ");
AddReply(330923,"Ecstasy Vs. Pornography (part 1)","JTP","USA","08/05/08","Pornography is almost entirely degrading display.  The grimace faces.  No joy exhibited.  This distances the individual from reality.\n\nThe standard of porno is actually asexuality, hiding in plain sight, believe it or not.\n\nWe could note how some, not all, prominent ideologies encourage mania by clearly advertised asexuality staged as abstinence or misogyny.  Cults of denial.  As with pornography, these traditions portray life with intense negativity and then exaggerated icon, false idol.  Negative reinforcement, same as War.  \n\n");
AddReply(330903,"Craig #3  MIXED Message!!????","Lynn R","NM USA","08/05/08","Excuse, being am woman, I am NOT an object just be gazed upon.  HaShem has made me to be a helpmate to my husband, not an object for men to gaze their lustful eye upon (nor has he created man for woman to gaze a lustful eye upon as this goes both ways).    It is MAN who has corrupted what HaShem has created for his own selfish desire.  So the \"mixed\" message is only in your head.  Maybe you need to reevaluate how you regard women in general. ");
AddReply(330893,"Agree with Eli #7","David","also from Yesha","08/05/08","Since when has discussion become so one sided in our community that there is no room for independent opinions. The fact of the matter is that in ancient Israel, our people were much more free and open with sex, and it is with the influence of the Babylonian / Roman / Christian / European galut that sex has become stigmatized and even taboo. Unforunately our Rabbis think they are preaching Torah when in fact they are preaching Christian and pagan anti-sex morality.");
AddReply(330890,"It is worse than the daughters of Midian!","Moe","PT, Israel","08/05/08","");
AddReply(330877,"For once","Azamin Ippish","Galutnya","08/05/08","I\'m forced to agree.  It amazes me (3 year old left in airport?) how many parents have that, \"it\'ll be alright\" attitude, usually expressed as faith in individual providence. But, as R. Tarfon said: You need not finish the task. Yet, you may not desist from it. Individual providence does not relieve us of our worldly responsibilities, parenting, tzedakah, tikun, whatever.");
AddReply(330876,"Um, Fish?","Rob","usa","08/05/08","You sure seem to spend a lot of time on the internet ;-)");
AddReply(330867,"to Eli #7 from Yesha","Aharon","Jerusalem","08/05/08","You give Yesha a bad name with your confession. It\'s like eating some shrimp to work up an appetite for the main course. ");
AddReply(330865,"Diasappearing husbands","Jilted Wife","NY","08/05/08","Girls, if your husband disappears into his study or down to the basement for hours on end to \"do some work on the computer\" you can be sure he\'s watching porn. ");
AddReply(330862,"Dear Rabbi","D.S.","Ramot","08/05/08","I know lots of religious people and even rabbis who have TVs and watch the evening news \"to know what is going on in the country,\" even though the neck lines of the attractive sexy newscasters get lower and lower every week. Why aren\'t they violating \"Lo tatouru?\" Because its news, does that make it kosher?");
AddReply(330857,"#7 - dedicated religious Jews don\'t watch soft-core movies","Rabbi","Jerusalem","08/05/08","While everyone has lapses here and there in keeping the commandments, someone who watches a romantic movie of the type you are suggesting is transgressing the precept of \"Don\'t stray after your hearts and your eyes which leave you astray.\" Also, it is forbidden to watch things that excite the yetzer (Avodah Zara 20a and 20b). Furthermore, a man is not permitted to think about other women when having relations with his wife. The Sages warn that a child born from such a union will be spiritually blemished. Otherwise, regarding the role of rabbis in putting out the fire, the conflagration is so great, there is not much we can do. In my experience, most people don\'t want to hear the truth when it comes to sexual matters.");
AddReply(330811,"The Internet Inclination","Elimelech","London","08/05/08","Isn\'t the solution a little obvious to anyone learning Pirkei Avot?\n\"Rabban Gamliel the son of Rabbi Yehuda the Prince said, good is Torah study together with a worldly occupation, for the exertion in both makes one forget sin. All Torah study without work will result in waste and will cause sinfulness\".");
AddReply(330799,"The Benefits of Internet Pornography","Eli K.","Yesha","08/05/08","Pornography on the internet, when used in reason, and wisely, can actually be very beneficial. For instance, my wife and I (both religious and dedicated Jews) often like to watch a romantic \"soft porn\" movie before making love, and we both agree that it has greatly increased our sex life and our love for each other.");
AddReply(330757,"Boundaries.","Adam Neira","Melb, Australia","08/05/08","Healthy boundaries are vital for wellbeing. The internet is a potentially a wonderful resource. However it is a vast anarchic ocean made up of tiny sanctuaries of wisdom and virtue which are surrounded by large satanic vortexes of evil.\n\nParents should \"oversee\" the surfing that their children engage in. ");
AddReply(330727,"Filters aren\'t enough","Mrs. F","Modiin","08/05/08","Our son would lock himself in his room for hours with his computer. When we discovered what he was watching, we downloaded a filter, nad tried to send him for counseling but he wouldn\'t go. Now he doesn\'t come home in the afternoons and says he\'s with friends, but I am worried that he is still at it. We are a religious family (dati leumi) and advice isn\'t easy to come by. I think the Haredi approach is healthier in this matter than ours. When we bring TV, and videos, and Maariv into our homes, not to mention the computer, what can we expect from our children?  ");
AddReply(330723,"Thank you for this article and the very edifying links.","No Name","London","08/05/08","");
AddReply(330705,"God created women too!","Craig","USA","08/05/08","The rabbis can\'t say that God created everything for his honor, including a woman\'s beauty, and then tell us we can\'t look at them. It\'s a mixed message.");
AddReply(330696,"Dangers of Internet","Teacher","Israel","08/05/08","The problem is not only children, but adults as well. Teachers themselves are not immune. I speak from experience and a long difficult battle against my own temptations. The Internet can be a useful tool but it can also destroy lives. Filters can help but they are not enough. The subject must be discussed openly so that everyone is aware of the dangers and where he or she can find help if they fall.  ");
AddReply(330695,"This is so very true","Mother","Florida","08/05/08","It\'s been a problem in our home too. If you love you children (and your husband) get a filter!");

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