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AddReply(292407,"Well, she is dazzlingly pretty. &nbsp;But spare me the BS.","sk","USA","03/30/08","\"Their worst offense might have been persuading us rationally of the beauty of Shabbat, of the wisdom of the laws of family purity, of the wonder of the Land of Israel.  They would have seen past our immodest clothing. . . .\"\n\nUh, no, that\'s not the worst.  For example, if you happened to be gay, you would have a good chance of being called a pervert or sick.  Maybe they\'ll be more tactful and say how much they love you and urge you to avoid abomination and perversion. They will be clear that it is also abominable to advocate for your rights.  Maybe, they\'ll have their rabbi get you an appointment with a JONAH rep.\n\nNor is the bizarre thinking of the yeshiva impressive, so far as I can tell.  Take a look at the \"quality\" of discourse at the very top, and then take a look at the followers.\n\nYes, expel or slaughter the Arabs.  But don\'t pretend the yeshivites radiate universal love.");
AddReply(288887,"RobertK, not every secular is a Hellenist","","","03/19/08","Hellenists side with the enemy and are a fifth column, sometimes even more dangerous than the enemy himself. A secular Jew is capable of defending his country; a Hellenist isn\'t.");
AddReply(288886,"Tova, please study Torah first","","","03/19/08","Please learn a bit about your own people before you comment on religious/secular relations.");
AddReply(288693,"Jews who hate Jews","Shachar","NYC","03/18/08","They have internalized the anti semitic feeling of the world and no longer identify as Jewish for many reasons but the result is the same.  ");
AddReply(288559,"# 7 lion king ?","marcel","Florida","03/18/08","You forget history.\nNoah and all he could fit in the ark were spared as Hashem destroyed every living thing on the earth.\nYour feel good delusion ignores that Hashem is a Holy G-d who must and will judge wickedness and rebellion again.\nHe also destroyed wicked Sedom & Gemorrah saving Lot and his daughters alone.\nHe has not changed to fit your wrong thinking.\nHe seeks a holy people not idol worshipers and deviants.\nMany like yourself are deceived by fantasy and delusional, humanistic religion. \nTurn away from your sinful ways ,fear G-d and seek His mercy while there is still time.  ");
AddReply(288444,"United we stand. Divided, we fall.","Linda Rivera","New York","03/18/08","The Muslim world is united in seeking the utter destruction of Israel and the entire world brought under subjugation by Islam.\n\n14 centuries of suffering and horror inflicted on  innocents by Islam - the suffering must not be allowed to continue!\n\nPartner with international terrorist Arafat, for 40 years; Holocaust denier and the financier of the cruel slaughter of Israeli athletes at the Olympic games in Munich, Abbas, received kisses from Olmert last year! Admiration and respect from the U.S.!\n\nEven though the Palestinian Authority call for the murder of every Jew and the murder of Americans.\n\nAiding, abetting and rewarding Muslim terrorism and murder must stop!\n\nUnited against Muslim terrorists - Israel and the Free World will stand.\n\nDivided, Israel and the Free World will fall.\n\nAt a future time, G-d has promised to rescue one nation - Israel. ");
AddReply(288431,"to #23","Tova","Toronto,Canada","03/18/08","Most combat soilders are Not religious. They believe in GOD and they believe in Israel. The orthodox community are religious by their own creation and not by GOD. I believe in GOD, not in the ignorance of the Religous Orthodox who created this religous & practices out of the cult & superstitions. The wearing of Black & is the cover of Satan. The covering of women wearing wigs is the shame that GOD created beauty.\n\n");
AddReply(288402,"Mike? Is that you?","Azamin Ippish","Tefutsotstan","03/18/08","Except for one point, I\'d be forced to completely agree with you, a strange but not unpleasant sensation.\n\nSince the anti-observance antics of the \"Reform\" in Frankfurt am Main way back in 1835, the secular have NEVER been content unless they were in CONTROL.");
AddReply(288366,"to #25","RobertK","Jerusalem","03/18/08","Like I said, your attitude, and that of others like you, is the mirror image of the attitude of the extreme secularist to whom Orit addresses her article. It\'s pretty strange that you can\'t see it. By the way, is this your idea of successful psychological development and personal maturity?--\"I\'m great, and everyone who\'s like me is great--everyone who\'s different should be spat at or expelled.\"");
AddReply(288312,"to Robert, #17","Ephraim","NYC/Kfar Tapuah","03/18/08","Numbers do not equal victory.\nIf there are five million religious in Israel, Israel is much stronger than if there are five million religious and five more hellenist.\nThe helenists are a fifth column, a handicap. While they are entitled to live on eretz yisrael, just like we are, they are the cause of many problems Israel is facing today. Seculars are behind cutting Religious Education funds. If it wasn\'t for seculars, we would kick all Arabs out like Rabbi Kahane said. The list goes on.");
AddReply(288245,"First they came... Now its sderot, it could very soon be Tel Aviv","Gila","","03/18/08","\"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist; \nAnd then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist; \nAnd then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew; \nAnd then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up.\" \n");
AddReply(288227,"to #19","Aharon","Givat Shmuel","03/17/08","except most combat soldiers are religous");
AddReply(288226,"liked","yoav ","boston","03/17/08","I can understand why a secular jewish man would pick up a pretty woman in a bar . I dont understand why he supports a suicidal secular regime. I think the average secular israeli man who picks up a pretty woman in a bar has more commonn sense then our leaders secular and religious ...to sum it up there brain dead ....Thezohar says the leaders of the final generation most of its rabbis and definitely itssecular leaders do it to serve themselves noot am yisrael and God . Id take a beer drooling haggard at a nightclup over him any day . ");
AddReply(288126,"Leftist/seculars/\"progressives\"","JK","SD, USA","03/17/08","Many lefists/seculars or \"progressives\" in Israel and abroad have more contempt for the Judeo-Christian tradition than for perverts and IslamoNazis. \n\nMany leftists, et al share a common bond with the IslamoNazis and perverts of the world-- destroy the Judeo-Christian tradition. And, that is why many leftist-secular types report that they are not bothered by the slaughter of religous Jews. \n\nTruth be told, they probably celebrated it along with the Gazian brothers-in-arms. ");
AddReply(288086,"I am responsible for the blood of my brothers and sisters","shoshana","new york","03/17/08","Thank you orit for writting those beautiful words. It is unfortunate that many non religious respond to the killing of their religious BROTHERS and SISTERS in such a nonchalant way. The arab murderer doesn\'t ask his victims if they are observant before killing them, as we have witnessed shootings and bombings in secular Tel Aviv, Afula, Chadera, Dimona, Eilat and the list goes on. We are all potential targets in the eyes of murdering arabs. The non religious don\'t have a free pass because they have abandoned the faith of their fathers. We the Jewish people must cry, scream and fall to our knees in anguish, ANY time pure jewish blood is spilled, be it of an eighty year old woman, one year old infant, a Yeshiva bachur or a youth standing in line to enter a night club.  ");
AddReply(288005,"A Letter to a secular friend","Tova","Toronto","03/17/08","Any Jew killed by an act of violence is an act against Israel & GOD.  To say the yeshiva students was a tragedy is no different than the death of any soilder or civilian.  The orthodox is also greatly responsible for this tragedy for their refusal to enter the army as commanded by GOD.  No religious black-coak, or wigs on women represent their devotion to GOD.  A death of this kind is no different than a death of a Jew killed in any attack.  It is the anti-semitic attitude of Jews who assume their are better than other Jews.  This in itself in a SIN.  The separation of Sephardim & Ashkenaz is also a separation of the Israel created by religious ignorance and has nothing to do with TORAH. GOD will protect all HIS children. Not the false teachings of orthodox. The secular Jew saves Israel");
AddReply(287941,"\"All my friends are doing it\"","JTP","USA","03/17/08","\"Don\'t identify with\" is cliche.  Another cliche; \"Israel is some strange far away Land.\"  Sentiments reiterated everyday in word, print and gesture.  Secret handshake.\n\nThe Israelis and Arabs (local) live in a \'sustained\' militarized/war zone.  That\'s not strange, it is what it is.  Everything in life continues, general coexistence, but with hysterical brutality and losses.  It\'s not annihilation, it\'s methodical brutality.  Very controlling.  Rockets fall everyday amidst the world community\'s monosyllabic statement.  \n\nIf anybody is queued to say and do specific things then that would be Israelis and Arabs in the territory. \n\nThe world community \'identifies\' with a single stated pov.  You couldn\'t get this many people on the same script unless you tried.  A single pov.  This does not imply disorganization.  Foreign embassies all closed in Jerusalem while Jewish Rachel\'s Monument is 3500 years in the same place.  An Israeli who doesn\'t identify with another Israeli is following exactly the same queue.\n\nPeople are following the same lead, therefore people are led.  If people learn/believe that life is based in a negative, and that survival/reward arrive from promoting an arbitrary negative, then the focus is on the negative. \n\nThis contrived contempt for religious Jews, and Israel in general, is well known hype seen everywhere.  Half of the accessed energy resources in the world are regional yet the world coys regional majority victimhood once removed.  If the majority are victim then there must be transgressor, there must be..");
AddReply(287899,"article and talkbacks","RobertK","Jerusalem","03/17/08","Orit\'s article is very well written and effective. Some of the \"religious\" talkbacks, like nos. 11, 12, and 14, are written in a spirit that\'s about the same as that of the secular individual--I repeat, individual--in Tel Aviv to whom Orit addresses her article. The vast majority of \"secular\" (non-Orthodox) Jews in Israel identified and sympathized with the victims of the Mercaz HaRav massacre, were horrified by it, and want the govt. to let the security forces act more effectively against terror. Yes, there are secular Jews like Orit\'s friend. There are also religious Jews with the same kind of contempt and hatred toward Jews different from themselves. We Israeli Jews are a very small community in the Middle East and the world; I\'m always amazed by those among us who are not capable of tolerance even within Israeli Jewry, and there are a lot among both religious and secular.");
AddReply(287886,"Did it matter to the nazis whether you \"related\"?","J","Sydney","03/17/08","The secular inhabitants in Israel have suddenly decided that by following a secular lifestyle, they have ensured that the world has forgotten who they are.\n\nWake up. \n\nHitler didnt differentiate the secular or non secular Jew, or even half Jew. He tried to eliminate the Jewish race. \n\nThe key players may have \"changed\", but the goal- and the crux of the matter- has not. \n\nJews were a race then, and as much as your secular friend in Tel Aviv will abhor it, they are a race now. She is the same race as those slaughtered Yeshiva students, and is hated equally by those who slaughtered them.  \n\nBy secular Jews turning their backs on settlers, on religious Jews, they try to turn their backs on themselves. The world will continue to despise the Jewish race as a whole, and attempt to destroy Israel as a whole. ");
AddReply(287851,"Boundaries of concern.","Adam Neira","Melb, Australia","03/17/08","Love is an active, dynamic process. As Erich Fromm describes, it is also an act of responsibility. For any Israeli not to have compassion and concern for the young men killed at the Yeshiva would surprise me greatly.\n\nA good article.");
AddReply(287829,"Ms.Arfa more generous than I","Jean","Atlanta","03/17/08","If the secular TelAvians did not weep for these children at synagogue the last 2 weeks, there is some horrible emotional deficiency in them.  (Oh, I forgot-Yom Kippur is not for a few more months, so they may not see the inside of a synagogue till then...).  But even if they cannot spare some sadness for this great loss of these boys, at the least they are certainly selfish and self-centered enough to realize that these terrorists don\'t care who they kill - as long as they are Jews.\nBut No, that would presume that your average secular Jew has any recall of history and lives in some fantasy world where the terrorists only kill religious Jews. Sure, until they run out of relgious Jews, then they will come for the secular Jews too. Wake up Tel Aviv, the IDF and the Nationalists and the settlers are protecting you whether you can face the truth or not.  I know it\'s not fashionable-too bad!");
AddReply(287827,"This secular Jew is upset! ","Shlomo","Saskatoon","03/17/08","Sorry, although I very much disagree with Orthodoxy, I am sickened by this attack.  An attack on Jews is an attack on Jews, plain and simple.  Our Nazi persecutors did not distinguish between religious and secular, between Orthodox and Reform, between Sephardic and Ashkenazi, or in any other way.  Neither should we!   ");
AddReply(287808,"Wrong, Miss Arfa","Ephraim","NYC/Kfar Tapuah","03/17/08","\"while you don\'t identify with them, they identified with you\"\n\nNo they didn\'t. While the author meant well, she is very mistaken. From her article, I assume that she is secular, a hilonit. And that\'s not ok. The hilonim hate Torah more than anything in this world hates anything else; the Talmud teaches us that when it says that the worst hate is that of an unlearned person toward a learned one.");
AddReply(287780,"The Israelis hate the Jews because the Jews threaten secular Israel","mike","Vienna, VA","03/17/08","If you want true cooperation between the two brothers in the House of Israel, then each must have his own hearth.  Until there is an independent Medinat Yehudah distinct and separate from Medinat Israel, the Israelis will continue to hate and plot against the Jews for fear that the Jews will take over Israel and build a Halachic State.  When there is a Halachic State populated by Jews next door to secular Israel, the Israelis will no longer feel threatened in their dens of depravity and will happily ally with their Jewish neighbors against the common enemy.");
AddReply(287632,"Repent And Return!","Norman F Birnberg","Salida","03/16/08","Israel is led by people estranged from their Jewish roots, who hate the Jewish State and who make war upon their own people. Their first concern is the welfare of Amalek instead of the safety of their brethren. Jews beseech them to wake up and turn away from their evil path. Or those who turn their face away from Hashem shall surely die not only from the hand of Israel\'s enemies but due to their own spiritual sickness. Israel needs to repent and return to Ahavat Adonai and Ahavat Yisrael before its too late.");
AddReply(287627,"Mercaz HaRav","Isaac","Brooklyn","03/16/08","A very, very prominent rabbi and scholar in Israel said that the massacre came abouit because of the Zionist nature of the Yeshiva.\n\nSo......the Chiloni can\'t idenitfy with tyhe religious so he doesn\'t much care that 8 innocents died.\n\nand this rabbi who has great influence and a following says that basically, the 8 had it coming to them because of their views regarding the State of Israel, the army, etc.\n\nIs it any wonder that we are so fragmented????");
AddReply(287622,"well put","Jeff","","03/16/08","Orit, you are a woman of valor. This letter is perfectly put...");
AddReply(287580,"Harvest Time?? Not likely-THE UNITY AND THE REDEMPTION OF A PEOPLE IS WHAT I SEE","Lion King-Ben David","Kings","03/16/08","Harvest time,common in Xtian narratives  sounds to me a little over the top and definitely inappropriate, HaShem doesn\'t think that way and neither should we--harvesting the wicked is not the focus of the Holy One.HASHEM\'S PRIMAL FOCUS IS TO REDEEM US HIS PEOPLE,SECULAR OR RELIGIOUS,AND ANIHILLATE THESE NATIONS WHO ARE URGENT IN MURDEREING EVERY LAST ONE OF US-SIMPLE GENOCIDE OF A PEOPLE IS WHAT THESE NATIONS ARE ON ABOUT.\nGod is not interested in harvesting souls BUT DRAWING ALL NATIONS UNDER THE VAIL OF HIS MERCY AND MAKING THIS EARTH A BETTER PLACE.\nThe theme in this article is a conscious desire for Jewish Unity on all levels--healing divisions--making it clear to secular community that their unity with their religious brothers is the only way to survive as a people because the COUNTDOWN OF OUR DESTRUCTION HAS ALREADY BEGUN--IT BEGAN WHEN WE DISENGAGED FROM GUSH KATIF- ");
AddReply(287570,"What you need to understand","azamin ippish","galutnya","03/16/08","The fact that Moshe got his dinkie snipped on a kibbutz does not necessarily make him a Jew.  There are plenty of circumcised secular humanists and socialists in Israel, who genuinely do not identify or sympathize with Jews or Judaism.  Soul, conscience, sensitivity, identity, other-centeredness, what ever you wish to call it, must be cultivated, educated, practiced, and generally NOT in the funkiest new espresso shop on Sheinkin.\n\nPut simply, the shallows cannot comprehend the depths.");
AddReply(287535,"Because they hate G-d","Marcel","Florida","03/16/08","The Holy One of israel has made ready His great harvest of this wicked generation.\nHe divides the sheep from the goat\'s and the weeds from His ripened vineyard.\nThe reason there is such ahtred and lack of caring for the religios Jews and so much love fore the evil,violent Islamic destroyers of Israel by secular jews is that deep down in their hearts they hate G-d with passion.\nIt shows blaringly and can no longer be hidden because the harvest is upon us and the wicked have chosen their own destruction by hateing the light of truth.");
AddReply(287530,"Hearts and souls","Harvey (Chaim)","London","03/16/08","Orit, thank you for a wonderful letter, it really hit the spot for me, a BT who  still identifies with the secular lifestyle. I sincerely wish your words can bring about a profound change within the heart and soul of your friend, and in turn, her contacts too. I am sick at the thought of some Tel-Avivians not feeling a family loss to these Yeshiva boys, because even during my younger wild and wayward days, sad news like that would still have hurt me terribly, which makes me question if modern day secularism hardens the heart.");
AddReply(287529,"A letter to my secular friend in T.A.","Sharon","Jerusalem","03/16/08","bs\"d\n\nkol ha\'kavod for bringing it all out and for putting the cards on the table.  \n");
AddReply(287508,"The mark of a good decent Jew is...","Ben ","Israel","03/16/08","that they identify with other good decent Jews, even those of different vocations. \n\nWhat is yard stick that differenciates between the good and the bad Jew? The defficient (Bad) Jew is stuck in their short-sighted binocular visioned world, the eyepiece turned fixed upon themselves (remind anyone of Olmert & co?). They do not endeavor, to the degree that they should, enrich other\'s lives.\n\nThe good decent desirable Jew\'s heart goes out to all good people world wide and is not limited by the present borders of Israel. The good Jew is the finest example to humanity that the world will ever see!  ");
AddReply(287500,"Lech Knos","Pini","Israel","03/16/08","Esther told Mordecai, \"Gather the Jews TOGETHER\"  This is the strength of the Jewish People - Religious, non-religious, Yeshivah students, university students, Ashkenazim, Sepharadim, olim, vatikim, young, old,  all of us. We all need each other to make up the total of AM YISROEL.  This is the ONLY way we would be able to stand up against our worst enemies.");

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