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AddReply(271959,"DAMAGED SOULS??????","david","J -lem","01/29/08","Why did  R. Kahane allow girls to participate in demos,though he was aware many were arrested ????? What type of damaged souls were queen Ester ,Tamar,yael, yehudit and chana bat matityahu?????How is the mashiach brought to this world by the daughters of lot who slept with  their father?????Perhaps all of us that did not fight against the gentile court system are the true damaged souls Mr. Haivri");
AddReply(271777,"David is making a point about the girls...","aliza","","01/29/08","as far as i know David HaIvrir is the only voice for the readers of A7 who is giving a realistic opinion on the situation. this is not about personal vendettas with Chabad. people who think they are smarter than the Lubavitcher Rebbe can think what they want. i pity them their hostilities. i wouldn\'t want to have to live with myself hating goodness - but that is not the issue. the issue is recognizing that there has been an injustice done to young Jewish women by making them think they are heros for doing something with marginal benefit to Shlaimos HaAretz that has a high risk to their psychological and emotional well being. ");
AddReply(271634,"Au contrare, #24, I am the sane one","mike","Vienna, VA","01/28/08","But you will not realize this until it is too late.  your cloud-cukoo land world of rosy delusions wherein there is plenty of time to affect change with elections is about to be shattered.  Migron will be buldozed within six months.  ");
AddReply(271631,"To #23:  the Jews will be ALIVE","mike","Vienna, VA","01/28/08","You people don\'t act.  A new oleh cannot act on your behalf.  What part of \"doctrinally correct armed revolutionary struggle\" don\'t you understand?");
AddReply(271495,"To Kahane loylost #12, Aliza #17, and Mike#20","Choni Davidowitz","","01/28/08","Kahane Loyalis:I suggest you take a drive up to Kfar Tapuach, and meet a real Kahane Loyalist.\nTo Aliza; Can you see what kind of Chabad \"supporters\",the long exile breeds; Read the comments of Mike of Vienna #20.\nTo Mike; I agree that Sharon and Olmert are \"evil and bad, and the disengagement/expulsion was worse than any rhetoric from the enemies of Israel, but your \"Neturei Karta\" like outbursts are absolutely cruelly insane. ");
AddReply(271486,"to # 20","roland","Jerusalem","01/28/08","Mike - The answer is not to sit in VA and be a doonsday sayer but to get over here and stand up for what is right.   if all that is left after your foretold holocaust is Chabad preaching a false messiah then where will the Jews be?");
AddReply(271379,"put this argument in perspective","","","01/28/08","It seems to me that the argument between David HaIvri and the later commentators who argue against him is the following. David HaIvri says that if the grown men don\'t do enough, then the cause is lost and the group doesn\'t deserve to win, and that it is not worth it to put young girls into a very bad environment. The commentators disagree and say that even if men don\'t do enough (which they clearly don\'t) young women should still do what\'s right even if it means putting themselves at risk.");
AddReply(271331,"Women in a fight for justice","D\'vora (kelev)","California","01/28/08","These young women r fighting a fight that the men SHOULD b fighting--and most r not.  It is just 2 uncomfortable, 2 inconvenient, 2 interrupt the prayer schedule, 4 the men 2 get up and do what is necessary. God helps those who help themselves--and unless and untill all JEWS stand up against injustice then it will b the few with courage who stand. Did Yael of the bible have phychological problems after having tent pegged Sisera?   Don\'t know, but she did the deed that Barak SHOULD have done.  In the time of cowards, G-d will use women or left handed lame people to accomplish his will.  \nThe wicked of Israel have taken their cues from the Nazis, who took their ideas from the American treatment of the Native American Indians,throwing them into reservations, divide and conquer and beat down the rebelious strong ones.G-d bless& protect these heroines who R DOING WHAT NEEDS 2B DONE");
AddReply(271244,"To#6 Chabad is ensuring that the Jews have a future","mike","Vienna, VA","01/27/08","Make no mistake about it.  The Jews of the Holy Land have refused to defend themselves in the face of a genocidal plot by the government of the State of Israel.  There is no armed resistance.  There is no demand for Medinat Yehudah.  There are only a few brave children.  Therefore, the plot will come to pass.  You will ALL be exterminated.  The Second Holocaust is coming.  The Olmerts and Baraks and Netanyahus and Liebermans will connive with the Moslems to kill 6 million Jews and profit from the results.  They will enjoy their ill-gotten gains on tropical islands, while you and 6 million listless freierim like you will lie moldering in mass graves.  After this terrible tragedy, there will still be Jews and there will still be hope for the future.  Because of Chabad.");
AddReply(271191,"Israel is in Terrible DANGER. EVERY Person Must do whatever they can to stop the","Linda Rivera","New York","01/27/08","planned Second Holocaust. The horrific consequences of failing to stop a global Islamic TERROR state in Israel are too shocking to contemplate.\n\nTaught from birth to have a venomous hate for infidels, bloodthirsty Islamics believe they will go to Islamic heaven as a reward for murdering Jewish innocents.\n\nClearly, a government that FAVORS and REWARDS terrorist killers-releasing thousands (under intense US U.S. pressure); viciously ethnically cleansing 10,000 Jews-rendering Jews jobless and homeless; gives Jewish land to implacable, barbaric enemies committed to Jewish annihilation - such a government is NOT a legitimate government.\n\nHand out massive amounts of literature to the public warning of the great danger!");
AddReply(271188,"teenagers  have a role in the battle","Yosef","Jerusalem","01/27/08","the real question is why the males and everyone else were not screaming and breaking the doors down while these teenage girls were in jail. Why did it take 4 weeks to get them out? This the question that Haivri should be asking.");
AddReply(271176,"to # 6 - my mistake","aliza","","01/27/08","sorry to mention Chabad and get you side tracked. please don\'t let your hostility towards Chabad cloud your vision on the real issues. scapegoating is a classic way of diverting attention from the real issues at hand. ");
AddReply(271166,"This is only David\'s opinion!","Meir Weinstein","Toronto, Canada","01/27/08","I know of other fathers, that are so proud of these girls.  It is because of their upbringing, that they make others cry and respect the Torah.  Rabbi Y. Ginzberg calls them holy.  These 14 year old girls have become teachers.  And they deserve our respect and full support.");
AddReply(271090,"Tough guy extremists pissed at HaIvri","yby","kiryat malachi","01/27/08","for saying the truth-that the tapuach kahanists are only as tough, and not even anywhere near, as their daughters. What a pathetic Chillul HaShem to send your daughters out to do the fighting for you (of course I am proud of them and what fine examples they are for their pathetic parents)and the rest of the sleep at the wheel crowd. If youre going to wave fists in the air and make mighty statements then its best you back them up with your own fists. I thought it was only arabs who hide behind their children. ");
AddReply(271084,"Names of the Police and Judges please","EW","PT Settlement","01/27/08","Let\'s hear it from all those in power, who were instrumental in doing ANYTHING negative (e.g. delaying the delivery of their mail; preventing them from speaking with their family)to these young heroines. I demand that every Judge, Policeman, Politician, NGO-member who was in ANY WAY involved in these girls\' incarceration to demontrsate the courage of their convictions and state for the record their names, their job function and their immediate Superior. This will show who the cowards and who the heriones really are.\nShould the girls have with-held their names? It\'s a difficult question; but following \"Disengagement\" we can see that our \"Government\" will stop at nothing to achieve the PLO\'s intentions - so why shouldn;t these young ladies show their mettle?");
AddReply(270980,"Adults should be doing the heavy lifting in confronting the evil coalition.","Chaim","","01/27/08","David Ha\'irvi is absolutely correct. The evil, maniacal coalition, which is destroying Israel, must be confronted with our total determination and passion, till it falls. However, the burdens of confronting it should fall mainly on adults. Little girls shouldn\'t be doing the heavy lifting. Adults should. WE SHOULD!");
AddReply(270978,"Haivri, Axelrod, HaMitzri?","kahane loyalist","Ra\'anana","01/27/08","Who do you work for and who are you really?");
AddReply(270969,"cowards","warren bacon","atlantic beach","01/26/08","big bad police pick on little girls? this is something i expect to read happening in an arab state, not the jewish homeland. if you won\'t fight for your daughters to keep them safe will you fight when the muslims attack? or willyou run away? israel is finished if this is the result.  ");
AddReply(270961,"Way to go - David","Yekutiel","Tapuach","01/26/08","Let\'s discourage the few who are willing to act.\n\n\"When there is no man strive to be one.\" If I understand you correctly, if there are no men, let us all perish and discourage the few who are willing to act...\n\nI don\'t know if what the girls are doing is halachically obligatory or the right way, but i respect them and if i will waste hot air to condemn anyone it will be to condemn the sick government that arrests them for no reason or the fools and gnaves who speak out against the girls.");
AddReply(270959,"Govt illegaly acts against freedom of movement#13 Human Rights","jew","israel","01/26/08","#13 Universal Declaration of Human Rts.Everyone has the freedom of movement &residence with the state.");
AddReply(270830,"Know playground","Deborah Grant","Reno, NV","01/25/08","Yes, men, you stand up for Israel, or Deborah and Jael will fight the battle with the Favored, Revival and Freedom. Forbid an outside enemy to take modesty, liberty and/or life by exposing evil governors that are not protecting us. Better to obey G_D than any wrong actions by government against G_D. We cannot willingly walk into a seemingly benign situation that ended in holocaust. Anyone who speaks against obeying G_D for Israel will not be blessed, you know. ");
AddReply(270766,"Men Must Join The War Against The State\'s Anti-Jewish Dictates","Adina Kutnicki","US","01/25/08","I agree with this assessment. Far too many men are staying in the background while the war for the existence of our homeland is being waged. \nIt is interesting to note that Nadia Matar is exercising more valor on behalf of our homeland than many men are. Why is this the case?\nWhile these young girls are rightfully denying the state the satisfaction of identifying with their antiJewish tactics, it is very dangerous that they are the ones bearing the brunt.\n\nThere must be a better balance amongst the efforts of all patriots.\n");
AddReply(270691,"To Aliza","Miriam","Ashkelon","01/25/08","I will NEVER understand what the Chabad Bochurim are doing in Russia??? Were there to be a mass Aliya of these bochurim  to Eretz Israel and were they to be as brave as the girls then I would be proud of them, but it is a Chilul Hashem for Chabad to perpetuate the Galut.");
AddReply(270639,"Yasher Koach David!","aliza","","01/25/08","when a handful of Bochurim - boys - were imprisoned in Russia a number of months ago, the Chabad rabbis in Washington desecrated Shabbos in order to get them out asap! since Amona we have to consider the jails in Eretz Yisroel to be as if they are Russian jails. the days of the Righteous Women of Hadassah are gone. in those days the soldiers and police were respectful of women and children. that era has past.  some of the youth who were in prison at the time of the Disengagement are not doing well psychologically. the youth are our future. they are not props to be used for the media. if they did make some kind of dent in the court system - which i doubt -it is not worth the risk of an emotional dent in a young Jewish woman. ");
AddReply(270628,"Well written - history is rewritten","LBD","USA","01/25/08","Well written column,and certainly understandable from a father of one of the girls. Though it seems women of all ages have some Heaven-gifted intuit and passion that has manifested itself over the reluctance of men at the most urgent times of Israel\'s history - ie Devorah and Barak.  Israel seems to be again at such a juncture of Heaven\'s and Earth\'s purposes and events.  Blessings to you and all Israel.");
AddReply(270595," I Cry","M.L.","L.A.","01/25/08","I cry that the \"government\" still stands. I cry that \"Jews\" are now second class citizens in Israel. I cry even more to hear that little girls must be abused and still there is no light at the end of the tunnel. What is Shas, Likud, etc. waiting for? Do we really need to wait till olmert gives away any more land, money, weapons, etc.? How can this continue one more minuet? It is not just the men or little girls who must fight and fight alone. Every family (the whole family) must stand together and protest. olmert is capable of many things but not even he would arrest entire families?! Not even he can  beat a baby over the head?!  He is at least one step above such terrorist actions, right?!");
AddReply(270575,"in a war, little girls are also soldiers","Ephraim","NYC/KFar Tapuah","01/25/08","Of course it goes without doubt that adult men should put themselves to prison to stand up for Jewish rights. But despite the bad influences that 13 year old girls get in prisons from prostitutes and druggies, they are still doing a great deed for the Jewish people. Think about it, after five little thirteen year old girls unanimously withstood imprisonment, mild torture, and separation from their parents in order to not cooperate with the government, how many adult men will be compelled to do the same thing, lest they be seen weaker than the girls?\nMoreover, when the government failed to crack thirteen year old girls, that is a major dent to it\'s power, and a weaker government is in less position to perform the ugly things it intends to, like disengagement from West Bank and Yerushalaim.");
AddReply(270568,"The Daughters Of Zion And Their Love For G-d","Norman F Birnberg","Salida","01/25/08","This incident should teach G-d fearing Jewish men, especially Haredi men - a lesson: it is not women who are impure, immodest and lecherous. It is men who are lacking in manliness, courage and honor. Israel should be proud of its daughters for standing up before G-d. Surely, it is not too much to ask the men to do the same. \n\nFor it takes every Jew to redeem Israel and I take issue with the notion the children\'s souls were damaged by their encounter with a corrupt and abusive system: on  the contrary, it is their persecutors who have been shamed and defiled by their actions before the Almighty and the children showed that the light of G-d can be felt even in the most dark places and trying times in a person\'s life.\n\nMay we be all be comforted by the Daughters Of Zion and their love for G-d.");

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