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AddReply(330432,"\"Separation of Church and State\" is ","les","Ayr","08/04/08","a misconcieved man-changed idology and not what the origional America was founded upon. All early churches and schools of learning had as their curriculum the bible as a study book following Judaeo/christian beliefs. It has since changed drastically to disavowing the truth of the bible itself.  In fact today about 59% of professing socalled believers in christianity denounce their redeemer even existed and has no place in redemption. New age philosophy has taken over the minds of professors and teachers in worldly schools today!  A democracy doesn\'t work in government whereas America was founded a Republic and church and state should work together,[not separated] In Israel G-d was the law and protector of the people origionally and today its hard to tell where they are in relationship. Religion is what man thinks he owes G-d!  Holiness is what G-d requires. Might we choose and do wisely.");
AddReply(266075,"Simple Yid (47), care to point out where Exodus says what you say it does?","sk","USA","01/12/08","I like how you make up Bible interpretations.  Maybe your sages have dyslexia?\n\n\nFrom Deut 18:\n\n8 then he may have equal portions to eat, besides what he receives from the sale of his patrimony.\n\n9 “When you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. \n\n10 There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, [5] anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer\n\n11 or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, \n\n12 for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you. \n\n13 You shall be blameless before the Lord your God, ");
AddReply(265246,"#49","Gary","Monterey, CA","01/10/08","That\'s what they said to the Prophets before they killed them.");
AddReply(264759,"#48 Gary, Monterey, Ca-. A Final Word","A Simple Yid","Yenem Eck Velt","01/08/08","Gary, Monterey,Ca. My final reply to you is: You just don\'t seem to get it, therefore: \"Huk Meer Nisht Kein Cheynik\"! Please ask one of your local Jewish friends for a translation.");
AddReply(264692,"A Simple Yid","Gary","Monterey, CA","01/08/08","What you are saying is that the Judaism of Joshua\'s time is not the same as Judaism of today.\nI wonder what Moses would say?\nI wonder what Joshua would say?\nI wonder what Aaron would say?\nI wonder what Caleb would say?\nI wonder what David would say?\nWould they say that your practices are not the same as theirs\'?\nI don\'t want to beat a dead horse in this discussion, but when I study the Torah, I see a different approach to worship G-d then what present day Judasim has evolved.  I see the Tabernacle setup, then later the Temple.\nThe Jews have the Holy Land in their possession.  Revival means to return to the original source and begin there.  Maybe a current Sage can begin this revival by declaring a reformation of renewal!");
AddReply(264344,"#46  Gary, Monterey, Ca.","A Simple Yid","Yenem Eck Velt","01/08/08","#46 Gary, Monterey,Ca.To begin with,you state \"Your Sages don\'t overrule Moses\". This statement is patently false. For example, Moses commanded the Jews to blow the Shofar on the first day of Rosh Hashanah. Our sages, however, tell us that if the first day of Rosh Hashanah falls on Shabbat, we are forbidden to blow the Shofar, and this is the Law. The Sages have this power to overrule Moses,and Moses is in agreement with them! You obviously have no knowledge or understanding of the Oral Torah (i.e.The Talmud) otherwise you would not make such dogmatic but incorrect statements about Torah law. Secondly, unfortunately Moses has died and is no longer with us to instruct us if we have questions or problems today. But he left us with instructions on how to deal with future problems when they arise and he is not here to advise us. If you study Deuteronomy 18:8-13, you will learn that The Sages who are alive today have the authority and power to make rulings according to their interpretation of the Law- even if they appear to contradict the Laws of Moses.Thus if our Sages tell us that we cannot build either Tabernacle or Temple until Moshiach arrives, then that is the Law, and Moses agrees with their rulings because they are following his instructions. I hope this information will put your mistaken theories to rest once and for all. Thank You.");
AddReply(264183,"#45 A Simple Yid","Gary","Monterey, CA","01/07/08","Your sages don\'t overrule Moses.  G-d directed Moses to build the Tabernacle, not the Temple.  David\'s desire was to build the Temple, after he built his palace and seen the tent structure of the Tabernacle.  If someone in Israel wanted to start Judaism from scratch. he would read Exodus and follow the instructions.  The sages\' opinions don\'t overrule Exodus.  And since the Jews are back in the Promise Land, Exodus becomes the measuring rod.  \nWhen the Disapora Jews were in foreign land, then retrictions on Exodus is understandable.  But being in Israel, those restrictions, laid over centuries in Exile, don\'t apply.  Invite G-d back into the Land of Promise.  He invited you back into the Land of Promise.");
AddReply(263874,"#42 Gary, Monterey, Ca.","A Simple Yid ","Yenem Eck Velt","01/06/08","#42 Gary, Monterey. Ca. Forget about the tabernacle. The 3rd Temple will be built either by human hand or Divinely, only after and not before the appeareance of Moshiach Tzidkeinu. Your suggestion is a worthy one, but it is not in the proper order according to the words of our sages whom by Torah law we are duty-bound to follow and obey.There is also a general principle in Judaism: An object that has attained a certain level of sanctity can only go to a higher level of sanctity not to a lower level. Since the Temple had a higher degree of sanctity than the tabernacle, we can no longer lower the level of sanctity of G-d\'s Abode by transferring his Abode form higher to lower.");
AddReply(262918,"Atilla ;- )~","ben","singapore","01/03/08"," \nWe all have to go one day. I mis Mom too : - ) ");
AddReply(262823,"Tabernacle","Jeff Dunetz","New York","01/03/08","I think we should build it in Monterey..Its an easier commute, closer to really good golf and Just as legitimate as Shilo");
AddReply(262690,"#39 A Simple Yid","Gary","Monterey, CA","01/02/08","I am full aware of the Prophet\'s description of the Third Temple, which will be built in the appointed time.  But that could be 1,000 years or more from now.  It could be tomorrow.  In the mean time, my discussions have been to the Diapora Jews whom G-d has returned to Israel after centuries of exile.  They have entered the Promise Land like Joshua did.  To conquer!  Must G-d wait for a house dedicated for H-m?  Where is G-d dwelling now?  On a mountain?  On top of a building?  The purpose of building the Tabernacle is two fold:\n(1) To invite G-d back into Israel.  G-d has directed Moses in what requirements are necessary for H-m to dwell with Israel.\n(2) The Tabernacle would result in a massive revival within Judaism such as not have been seen on the earth since Hannakah!  After so many years of exile, don\'t you think that the Jews need this revival?  Why should the Moslems have massive rallies in Mecca?  Can you imagine the revival in Judaism if they built the Tabernacle and brought up the Ark of the Covenant from Ethiopia, if it\'s there, or if they constructed a new one!  ");
AddReply(262457,"To mike (34)","sk","USA","01/02/08","Mike, I just can’t write a ten-page response, so, I will have to be selective.\n\nThe first few sentences of your response, taken together, are just incoherent, and, taken individually, are quite deficient.\n\n“America is a Christian nation through and through.”\nThis has no precise meaning.\n\n“Separation of Church and State is a Western Christian value.”\n“Only in the West is Ceasar separate from the Church.”\n\nAlso problematic.  For most of the history of “Christendom,” church and state were hardly “separate.”  The precise meaning of “separation” is that religious leaders cannot use the coercive power of government to further their religious ends.  Any state with an official religion has no separation of religious and temporal power (and that means the Euros for most of their history had no such separation—and their masses had no freedom either).  (Nowadays, there are still “state religions,” but in the West this is obviously only vestigial.)  Why do you think the Pilgrims split England for the New World?\n\nYou are right that Christian doctrine can be interpreted to be consistent with some degree of church/state separation, though American Christians seem to have trouble with the concept.  But you are reversing cause and effect.  Christianity did adapt, but it was hardly responsible for limiting its own temporal power.\n\n“This separation came about because of the unique dichtonomy between the Pope and the princes of the conquering barbarian tribes, be they Frank, Avar, Visigoth or Norse.”\n\nYes, yes, mike.  Leaving aside that one very important country of Europe eventually had its own church (Britain), with its monarch the head of that church and “defender of the faith,” the fact that different people sometimes headed different institutions (governmental and religions) didn’t mean that religion lacked coercive temporal powers.  It meant that citizens were controlled both temporally and religiously by agreement between the powers.  \n\n“Similarly, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and all the rest of the \"universal\" ideals you believe in so fervently are actually Western Christian ideas with roots in the Protestant Reformation.”\n\nMike, what does this MEAN?  First, what “roots” do you refer to?  Second, you are conflating “Christian ideas” with “the ideas of people who are Christians.”  Anyway, Luther’s opposition to the Catholic church was not a cry for freedom of conscience for the individual but a religious doctrine supporting one type of religious control in place of another.  Have you actually READ, say, Luther?  What of Calvin, famous for saying that the “magistrate” is God’s vicegerent?  Of course, that was a good way of sidelining the Pope.  I agree that lessening the hegemony of the Pope was crucial for what would eventually be religious freedom, just as the Magna Carta was crucial.  But the MC hardly was an instrument of “freedom of speech, freedom of religion,” etc.\n\n“The Enlightenment you point to was a narrow, Western Christian event without parallel in any other civilization.”\n\nProbably right, in that it had no parallel.  Christianity could indeed be interpreted by its leaders (who wanted not to lose everthing and/or be beheaded) as allowing a limitation on the scope of power.  But really, it’s silly to call this a “Christian” event.  By the way, I’m wondering which of the following could be called Christians:  Jefferson, Paine, Madison, Voltaire, Rousseau, or Hume?  Answer:  NONE.\n\nIt would be more accurate to say that the separation of church and state (or religious and temporal powers) was “rooted” in the Renaissance and thus  – wait for it – in Hellenism.  As for the role of Christianity, it’s interesting that Jews seem much more supportive of this separation than self-avowed Christians.  Hm.  I guess such Jews aren’t practicing “true Judaism.”");
AddReply(262317,"Factual science 100% consistent w recent complex creation","rmp","eretz >earth","01/01/08","standing on one foot\n- a complex creation\nadam not formed a baby\ntrees ready to eat from in gan eden,\nelsewhere vegetation had not sprouted above ground.\n-change in radiation  - before continental split/mabul we matured slower, grew bigger and lived longer, gradual radiation build was post flood,\nmemo rmpcta@aol.com for proof and sources.\nold age universe from less to more complex should not even quulify as theory under rules of good science.");
AddReply(262236,"Reply To # 32- Gary, Monterey, Ca.","A Simple Yid","Yenem Eck Velt","01/01/08","Gary, Monterey, Ca. I respect you as an intelligent seeker of truth and a faithful supporter of the Jewish State of Israel. In response to your suggestion to build a Tabernacle in Shilo, I respectfully direct you to Sefer Yechezkel (The Book of Ezekiel) in the Artscroll edition preferably- available at any Jewish bookstore.) While not an easy read, this Book describes in intimate detail the construction of the Third, and permanent, Temple on the Temple Mount Site. Let us pray that this prophetic Book will see its ultimate fulfillment speedily, in our days. It\'s nice to communicate with you again, and best wishes for a happy New Year.");
AddReply(262229,"To : Yitzak ben Shlomo","Atilla Karagozoglu","","01/01/08","I miss Mom and you.\nThe good old days.\nMom ! somewhere in paradise.\nBut I see you there.\nI SEE! YOU STILL THERE.\nThe Door is open, NOW.\n\n\nIshmael Atilla :)\n");
AddReply(262055,"Science/Creation","Sammy Benoit","NY","01/01/08","In many ways science CONFIRMS torah...check out something I wrote a few months ago\nhttp://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2007/10/creation-of-word-and-fundamentalists-of.html");
AddReply(262054,"Shiloh","Sammy Benoit","NY","01/01/08","Two Points\n...actually once the first temple in Jerusalem was built..it was forbidden to build it any where else\n...Second..Olmert wants to give away shiloh also");
AddReply(261976,"To #28: Drag yourself out of the Middle Ages","mike","Vienna, VA","12/31/07","When science seems to conflict with Torah, perhaps it is because the science is wrong and perhaps it is because we don\'t fully understand Torah.  In the 19th century, science held that the Earth revolves around the Sun.  It was difficult to reconcile this scientific theory with the picture of the Sun revolving around the Earth given in Kohelet.  Then along came Einstein and told us that all frames of reference are relative.  In modern science, it is possible to define a perfectly valid frame of reference wherein the Sun revolves around the Earth.  It is also possible to define a valid frame of reference wherein the Sun and the Earth revolve about some random point in space.  These frames are complicated and inconvenient for our purposes.  So, for the purposes of simplified calculation, we define a frame of reference wherein the Sun stands still and the Earth revolves around it.  Hashem, however, is not bound by our limited human minds, nor does he have need of our calculations.\n\nMy point, in short, is this:  Stop mindlessly bashing science.  Science has its own well-established and validated processes for arriving at the truth.  In due course, science will progress and our difficulties with the current theories will be resolved.  In the meantime, the theories have great practical utility and are indispensible to the progress of science, which has brought us benefits and luxuries unheard of even a few centuries ago.  In order for the highly beneficial progress of science to continue, scientists must be free to follow their process without the intervention of well-meaning rabbis, much less dogmatic religious fanatics.  If you want to see what happens when dogma is permitted to interfere with science, take a look at the Moslem world.  Do you want to live the way those animals do?");
AddReply(261972,"Get off it, SK.  America is a Christian nation through and through","mike","Vienna, VA","12/31/07","Separation of Church and State is a Western Christian value.  Only in the West is Ceasar separate from the Church.  This separation came about because of the unique dichtonomy between the Pope and the princes of the conquering barbarian tribes, be they Frank, Avar, Visigoth or Norse.  In the Greek Orthodox world, the Church is a junior partner to Ceasar.  In the Jewish world, the synagogue holds judicial and legislative power, while the State holds executive power.  In Islam, the Mosque is the State.  In the East, the Emperor is a god.  Similarly, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and all the rest of the \"universal\" ideals you believe in so fervently are actually Western Christian ideas with roots in the Protestant Reformation.  The Enlightenment you point to was a narrow, Western Christian event without parallel in any other civilization.  The Western Christian values you believe to be \"universal\" are valueless to most other civilisations and are anathema to some.  They break down immediately when taken out of context.  They are nearly impossible to transplant outside the Western Christian medium.  Witness the spectacular failure of democratization in Latin America, Russia and Southeast Asia, for example, and the increasing success these civilizations have had when they returned to their core values.  I assure you, there is good reason why Putin has a 75% approval rating and Kasparov\'s clutch of Communists and Western-oriented halfwits barely registers in the polls.\n\nThis brings us back to Jewish State.  No, it cannot be a copy of America.  Trying to copy the values and systems of Western Christendom is what got the Jews of the Holy Land into the current mess in the first place.  A Jewish State must be true to the core values of our unique civilization.  Like it or not, this means checks and balances but also a legislative body composed exclusively of men with valid Orthodox smecha.  It means elections, but also a civil law based in Halacha.  We cannot and must not try to become goyim.  We are what we are.  The Torah is our handbook of core values.  Love of Torah, vigorous Halachic debate, strict observance of hallowed traditions, the collectivist impulse of ahavat Israel, the pursuit of intellectual excellence to the exclusion of all else, these are our core civilizational attributes. We go against our core values at our peril.  Trying to go against the core attributes of our civilization will cost us more dearly still.  Civilizations that try to fight themselves generally die.");
AddReply(261966,"# 25 sk USA Re Atilla","Yitzak ben Shlomo","singapore","12/31/07","Tell me is he really insane ?\n\nI am just sad to hear this , I cant believe what you say \n:-(\n\nplease dont joke about this, seriously.Tell me honestly \n:-()");
AddReply(261965,"#28 RMP","Gary","Monterey, CA","12/31/07","I have two issues to discuss:\n(1) Scripture hasn\'t forbidden the reconstruction of the Tabernacle in Shiloh.  If so, list the Scriptural references.  Joshua entered the Promise Land and placed the Tabernacle constructed by Moses in Shiloh.  The Temple came later.  The Disapora Jews have reentered the Promise Land, like Joshua, and need to provide G-d with a house.  Follow the example by Scripture and build the Tabernacle in Shiloh.  Bring the Ark of the Covenant from Ethiopia or construct another one.  Look, the Temple may not be built in 1,000 years. Invite G-d in Israel and G-d will come.  Build the Tabernacle in Shiloh.\n(2) As a creationist, I\'ve researched the arguments for a short-term 6,000 creation event and a long-term 4.8 billion year creation event.  I\'m 50% either way, but lean toward the intrepretation of 4.8 billion years.  The seven days of creation can be intrepreted in the Hebrew as seven long eras of time.  Adam, being the last creation, placed on earth around 100,000 years ago, and having zero connections to prehistoric creation, is our lineage.  What science fails to recognize is that Adam is independant of prehistoric creation.  They keep trying to link Adam with millions of years of evolution, when Adam has been here relatively recent.  G-d has no time limit.  One billion years to H-m is nothing.  Remember that Darwin stated that his theory fails if one can prove a beginning of time.  Science has done that estimating the Big-Bang to have occured 13-14 billion years ago.  That eliminates evolution.");
AddReply(261868,"corruption","yitzhak bendayan","miami","12/31/07","The presence of Ehud Olmert,Haim Ramon & shimon Peres, guarantees that corruption is going to dominate the Israeli government. This Mafia is badly corroding the moral fibre of society. ");
AddReply(261750,"Sara, #11 Begin gave Jewish Sinai to Egypt","","","12/31/07","");
AddReply(261730,"Israel misses the point","Schvach","","12/30/07","Doesn\'t it occur to the present Israeli gov\'t that Moslem claims on Jewish turf are specious; that at best Islam can only be characterized as a lacky garage knock-off of Judaism, and that Arab Moslem hostility toward Jews and Judaism can only be interpreted as an admission of their illegitimacy? When have we Jews ever wanted, or tried, to \'do in\' Islam? It\'s just the opposite: secular Jews tend to be embarassed by Judaism, while professing superiority based on their Jewish identities. They all need to go to yeshiva!\n");
AddReply(261672,"Gold Dome not a Mosque, Forbidden to build temple/tabernacle elsewhere, good sci","rmp","eretz >terra","12/30/07","Gold Dome not a Mosque, built at initiative 2 Jews forced into Islam.8 sides correspond to iracle of chanukah.\n\nForbidden to build Holytemple/tabernacle in Shilo or anywhere but Temple mount, even there many Halachic considerations must guide.\ngood factualscience only consistent with Torah account 7 Day Creation 5768 years ago. Those with blind faith in false folly of gradual evolution/old universe slaves to own bodies and amalakite ones will self destruct trying to prevent truth from being taught and Temple restored.");
AddReply(261664,"Language Games:  the meaning of \"Jewish state.\"","sk","USA","12/30/07","May I suggest that we speak more precisely of what a \"Jewish state\" is?\n\nIt seems to me that the only way for Israel to serve ALL of its functions would be to have it be a state for all Jews, where some Jews cannot impose themselves on others.  There is nothing impossible about shipping out the moon worshippers given this definition.\n\nOh, and I greatly dislike any suggestion that those Jews without religion should pretend that they have it.  Yuk!  It\'s disgusting enough in the US. Israel has its share of liars; no need to create another opportunity for lying.");
AddReply(261660,"Roddy (20) on brainwashing.","sk","USA","12/30/07","You say:\n\nMany American Jews have been brainwashed to believe that \"separation of Church and state\" is a universal principle that works in their favor. Perhaps this holds when the dominant religion of the state is anti-semitic and the society is violent. In modern day America this is not the case, and in Israel it clearly doesn\'t apply. It is time we re-think this principle.\"\n\nI think you are completely, and I mean completely, wrong.  Has it occurred to you that the average American is much more religiously observant than the average Euro, but that only in the US have church and state been divided?  What does that mean to you?\n\nWhat do you make of Jewish success in the US and the absence of any pogroms (let alone holocausts), \"despite\" separation of church and state?  You think it might be BECAUSE of such separation?\n\nYou see, the American founding fathers, certainly those few with real intellectual firepower, were mostly atheists or Deists or Masons.  They knew EXACTLY what they were doing in making the US, from the start, secular in its government.  They knew that both the state and religion become corrupted when they become intermingled.  That most versions of American Christianity are not anti-Semitic might well precisely because of separation.\n\nAnd what religion sees no separation at all as desirable?  Islam of course.  Has it occurred to you that part of Islam\'s evil relates to this fact?  (Not all of it.)");
AddReply(261649,"Jeff, re: Atilla","sk","USA","12/30/07","Atilla used to (maybe still does) TB on Ynet.  He is extremely funny but, alas!, insane.");
AddReply(261503,"Eretz Yisroel not Israel - seperation of land and state","Menucha","","12/30/07","this article is accurate in identifying Israel as a state without religion. it is time for Jews to face up to it. Israel is not a Jewish state. Olmert told American Jewish leaders that Jerusalem is an Israeli issue, not a Jewish issue. sure he covered it up later, but his unguarded statement was true - and this article confirms it. Israel is not a Jewish state. that does not change the fact that Eretz Yisroel is the Jewish homeland. our loyalty has to be to Eretz Yisroel not to Israel. you can serve in the army because of Pikuach Nefesh, saving Jewish lives. but keep your loyalty to the Torah not the state. ");
AddReply(261476,"synagogue & state, by sammy benoit","john jay","port angeles,wa","12/30/07","friends:\n\nwhen i first read mr. benoit\'s essay i had no conception that it would generate such wide ranging comment, some of which is fairly cogent and some of which seems largely incoherent to me.\n\nlet us first examine mr. benoits basic argument.  he says that in order to preserve and protect jews and the jewish state, that jewish leaders should remember the basic tenants of the jewish faith, be mindful of the heritage and importance of preserving the jewish faithh and of preserving israel, and should act to protect israel strategically as a state and in terms of preserving the faith.\n\nthis seems pretty reasonable, and pretty cogent.\n\nhe says that to do this best, that perhaps jewish leaders should in fact profess and adhere to the jewish faith.\n\nthat, by so acting, they would be less inclined to compromise the strategic, military and political intests of isreal.\n\nto my way of thinking, this is an argument cogently and persuasively advanced.\n\nperhaps if mr. olmert and mr. peres sat with the torah at their sides, they would not be engaged in negotiations to cede lands to the arabs which are vital to the defense of israel.\n\ngaza is nothing.  it is a festering, squalid, cess pool.\n\nbut, to give up places holy to the jews in jerusalem, to consider partition of the city, what nonsense is this?  how can these things even be considered?  would the catholics be expected to give up vatican city?\n\ni find it offensive that jewish politicians would consider this, and morally repugnant that jewish politicians condone and turn a blind eye to the plundering of jewish and christian antiquities on the temple mount.\n\nand, there is the golan.\n\nwhat jewish citizen, let alone \"leaders\" of the jewish state, consider abandoning the golan and the farms to syria?\n\na cursory examination of a simple map, a cursory knowledge of the military campaigns fought over the golan since israeli independence, compels an understanding of the overwhelming strategic importance of these heights.  the are a natural barrier to invasion, a natural place from which to defend israel from armored assault, from artillery bombardment.\n\nto give them up is absolute folly.\n\nyet olmert and peres consider this, put it on the table as \"bargaining chips.\"\n\nthis is abject capitulation.\n\ntotal cowardice to consider this.\n\nmaybe with the torah at their sides, with faith in their hearts, olmert and peres might see this.\n\nno, mr. benoit is not wrong in his assessment of the source of the weakness in israel\'s leadership.\n\nit is only to wonder, from my perspective as a u.s. citizen and as a less than perfect christian, why the citizens of israel put up with a group of politicians who would give their country into the hands of the islamic jihad, who would abandon the promise and blessing of the state of israel, as conferred by god.\n\nwho would squander good, and bow to evil.\n\ni find mr. benoit\'s observations entirely persuasive.\n\njohn jay\nport angeles, washington, usa");
AddReply(261469,"US acts against religion=changing bilical borders population(1st Admendment)","jew","israel","12/30/07","");
AddReply(261463,"Atilla Karagozoglu","Jeff Dunetz ","New YorK","12/30/07","The Doctor just called. They said you forgot to take your medication");
AddReply(261324,"A Century of Brainwashing","Roddy","Chicago","12/29/07","Many American Jews have been brainwashed to believe that \"separation of Church and state\" is a universal principle that works in their favor. Perhaps this holds when the dominant religion of the state is anti-semitic and the society is violent. In modern day America this is not the case, and in Israel it clearly doesn\'t apply. It is time we re-think this principle.");
AddReply(261262,"Sammy, this essay is a real mess.","sk","USA","12/29/07","The US is not a defacto Christian state (though it seems you go back and forth on this point); it is a state that has mostly Christian citizens (many of whom hardly qualify as very good Christians in terms of their practice).\n\nIsrael, in fact, has much less separation of religious and temporal power than the US.  What distinguishes Israel is that the so-called religious leaders have their own important niches where they weild major temporal power.  This is not only among their communities, but in terms of key things like marriage and kashrut.\n\nThe problem in Israel is that organized religion has become hopelessly corrupted by its temporal power, which is what always happens when states deviate from secularism.  These corrupt rabbis create coalitions with corrupt seculars and prop them up.  The result, again predictable, is that as the number of \"religious\" has increased, the anti-Jewish nature of MOST of what the secular leaders do has become more intense.  So long as these secular leaders do not infringe on the corrupt rabbis\' niches, the alliance remains.\n\nOh, and secular Israelis rightly become even more disgusted by Judaism when this religion has such corrupt leaders.\n\nIf you want a government that is more influenced by Jewish values, the first thing to do is to kick out the rabbis.");
AddReply(261236,"The Time Has Come","Dovid Lt. Col. Ret.","Novi,Mich USA","12/29/07","I never thought I would hear myself say this aloud, or say it on paper, for everyone to read, but the time has come for the good Jewish people of Israel to throw out its corrupt, inept,abstinent of any Jewishness, talk only government.\nIts time for a peaceful revolution. Through out the milenias, peaceful revolution has overthrown dictators, corruption, and those who neglect their peoples desires for nationalistic G-D given rights, brought about from their blood,sweat,and the lives of their children.\nI say to my fellow Jews, fill the streets, block the the traffic, sit down in front of the Knesset, do not move until the government succumbs to your wishes. A people should never be afraid of their government. The government should be afraid of you,because you are the electors. You have the power. Now have the Chutzpah that \nG-D has given you.\nAM YISRAEL CHAI\nDovid Ben Leizer  Lt.Col.Ret.\nNovi,Michigan  USA\n\n");
AddReply(261230,"Synagogue and State","Fran","NY","12/28/07","The state will never thrive without the religion");
AddReply(261213,"The flip side","Daniel","Atlanta","12/28/07","The flip side of your O\'Reilly argument is, \"America is a Christian nation, if you are Jewish and don\'t like it, move to Israel!\" Many in Israel would no doubt like that to happen, but, as an American, I would consider such an attitude to be a rejection of all that America stands for. I\'m glad that America offers freedom to people of any faith. I\'d hate to see an America with no Jews!");
AddReply(261212,"Build the Tabernacle in Shiloh!!","Gary","Monterey, CA","12/28/07","");
AddReply(261206,"Bravo!","Stuart Kaufman","Great Neck","12/28/07","I am frequently embroiled in discussions with my friends, who insist that since I am not an Israeli citizen, and have not served in the Israeli army, I have no right to express my opinions about Israeli policies and conduct.  But Israel IS the Jewish state and, as a Jew I have a right... no... I have an OBLIGATION to give my opinion when I see Israel committing national suicide.  Too many Israelis pride themselves on their secularism (the sight of Israelis with tattoos is still jarring to me).  An Israel without Judaism has no reason to exist.  Those Israelis (and Israeli governments) who fail to recognize this fact are sowing the seeds of their own destruction - and we Jews of the Diaspora had better scream it from the rooftops before it is too late. ");
AddReply(261201,"A very timely Article well expressed","Satch","UK","12/28/07","meaning I agree.I as a \'heinz\' variety of different blood in my veins have but only One G-d to who I worship and the Jew to me is a barrometer of what G-d is doing with Israel.I have no political party but look to what the candidate stands for--not what he or she falls for!The Torah,Old Testament and inspired Word is what I look to and Proverbs and Psalms are neglected today which is a lamp to guide our footsteps with problems mounting that overwhelm at times.We seek to follow men rather than G-d and wonder why prayer isn\'t heard. Fasting was for our forefathers we tell ourselves.America was founded by G-dly men who would turn over in their graves if presented what we have lost!All schols had bible as corriculm.Our leaders are bringing condemnation upon themselves by how they are harming Israel,And proclaiming to be what they are Not!  Hitler claimed to be a Christian--is Bush doing any better [indirectly] speaking?  Its Not what the American people want nor what their taxes are wasted on, tho we are judged for it.I hope the Jew sees that for what it is.To the Jew first and I feel blessed to be able to share with them what was given to them. I grieve over Jerusalem at the Moslum crowding out the people that it was presented to and feel that it is a part of my destiny as well, as I hope to see it in the future.My heart is definitly with the people of Israel and pray daily for them that they may come to agreeing in what HaShem expecte of them, until Messiah returns.");
AddReply(261189,"Take down the Golden Mosque","Ephraim","","12/28/07","Should Israel really protect other religion\'s holy sites, especially if they are in conflict with Jewish holy sites? ");
AddReply(261163,"Synagogue and State","Sara Springer","Brooklyn, NY","12/28/07","Sammy Benoit is absolutely correct. If we as Jews cannot declare Israel is a Jewish State that means we do not understand who we are and our purpose in life. Begin would have never exhibited such crass weakness.  He fought with the ethics of Torah. He valued and had pride in being a Jew.  This is why he told Carter that Israel was not a \n\"Banana Republic\" when Carter tried to dictate policy. Israel needs a leader who will not give up any land because he/she would understand that the land is the connection to who we are.  Unless Israelis and the government understand this the Arabs will continue to violently demand the annihilation if Israel. ");
AddReply(261160,"Christian America","Ted Charak","Chicago, IL","12/28/07","There is a difference between Christian Americans and religious Israelis. The Americans consider this land as holy because their great-grandfather died at the Battle of Shioloh in 1862. To them the United States is holy. Religious Israelis know their ancestors lived to worship ha\'Shem at Shiloh 3,000 years ago. Uri Zvi Greenberg was right. \"And I say: A land is conquered with blood. And only when conquered with blood is hallowed to the people. With the holiness of the blood.\"\n ");
AddReply(261118,"Come home to what, #5?","mike","Vienna, VA","12/28/07","You are still under the delusion that votes count in Israel.  Obviously, you haven\'t been in country long enough.  Listen, genius, the last attempt to democratically change Israel into a Jewish State showed us exactly what Israeli \"democracy\" means in practice.  If the lesson didn\'t sink home after they banned Kach, it should have sunk in after the Israelis beat 12-year-old children within an inch of their lives and raped little girls at Amona.\n\nJews will come home when there is a serious movement to build a Jewish State.  Today, this means an armed independence movement in Yesha.  When there is a serious demand for a free and independent Medinat Yehudah, THEN you can call for aliyah.  Until then, aliyah is a form of suicide.");
AddReply(261065,"It\'s funny, but I don\'t look Jewish.","Colonel Neville.","Melbourne.","12/28/07","Dear Sammy:\n\nYou\'re absolutely right.\n\nThere\'s a curious lack of seriousness about the value and precariousness of er, Jewishness. And about the meaning of the state of Israel an\' all.\n\nThere seems a lack of real anger, assertiveness and toughness in the local Jewish community, regards the threats from Islam and Islamic states. It staggers me. Yep, it does. \n\nWhat are folks waitin\' for? Till they detonate nukes across Israel? \n\nYou and I know Islamists and their proxies have no end point but apocalypse. I wouldn\'t give an inch to something that\'s ALL lies. \n\nQuite frankly, ya wanna crush and destabilise the phony stability of most Arab dysfunctional vortex\'s or be crushed yourself and sucked into them.\n\nCan the Muslims oppressed by their own people and their freak religion be liberated too? Who knows. But Israel should not die trying.\n\nGod bless the Jewish people.\n\nYours in a rather harsh reality, Colonel Neville.  ");
AddReply(261045,"ISRAELI LEADERS & THE CRIMINAL MIND ZIONISTS","Atilla KARAGOZOGLU","","12/28/07","The zionists blame on the goverments\nThe zionists blame on the leaders\n\nWHO ARE THOSE INTELLIGENT WISE ZIONISTS ?\nThey are real jews.\nThey are NOT EVEN HUMAN :)\nEVEN BIGGER THAN HUMAN :)\n\nTHEY ARE ANGLE ANGLE !\nEVEN INPORTANT THAN ANGELS.\n\nwho they are ?\n\nTHEY ARE LITTLE GODS...LITTLE GODS ???\n\n***\n\nZIONISM STARTED TO BE BAD FOR WORLD PEACE.\nZIONISM MUST BE STOPPED WHERE IT SEEN.\nZIONISM LOST ITS WAY.\nZIONISM HAS FULL OF HATE.\nZIONISM HAS THE MOST ARRONGANCE\nZIONISM IS NOT EXIT IN FACT\n\n");
AddReply(261033,"THE CRIMINAL MINDS","Atilla Karagozoglu","","12/28/07","Israel\'s leaders have no sense of Jewishness !\n\nTHAT IS TRUE.\nTHAT IS RIGHT.\n100 %.\n\nyou know why ?\nTHEY ARE NOT LIERS, THATS WHY !\n\n***\n\nSo !\nwho I am talking to now ?\nto you !\nTO YOU !\nTO YOU, THE FAKE ZIONISTS.\n\n***\n\nwhy I call you as FAKE ZIONISTS ?\nbecause you got no brain to see that Zionism has nothing with Hashem !\n\nyou know, Hashem, right ?\nwell I learned from you.\nHe is The God, right ?\nG-d !\n\n***\n\nYOU ARE ALL CRIMINAL MINDS.\nYOU GOT NO BRAIN.\nAT LEAST YOUR LEADERS HAVE GOT BRAINS. sure for bad.\n\n***\n\nIS THERE ANYTHING GOOD ABOUT YOU, THE ZIONISTS ?\n\nsure there is.\nMAYBE THERE ARE.\n\nI love the way you guys are in love with Hashem.\n\nyes I do love your hard working.\n\nYOU GOT YOUR OWN STYLE.\nI RESPECT THAT.\n\nBUT !\nYOU ARE WORKING FOR NOTHING.\nWHY YOU MAKE YOUR MINDS AND YOUR BODIES TIRED ?\n\n***\n\nyou are going to wrong direction.\nand\nyou dont see that.\n\n***\n\nI WILL HELP YOU.");
AddReply(261019,"Lets all come home","Hillel Levin","Shiloh","12/28/07","Hey YidWithLid, it seems to me, a new oleh to Shiloh, the site of G-D\'s house for 369 years, that for things to change here in Eretz Yisroel, the Land that G-D gave to our Father Abraham as an inheritance, is for the B\'nai Yisroel who are choosing to live Chutz L\'Aretz to come home in massive waves of Aliyah. Fact is that over 50% of the worlds Jews have chosen to ignore the Gift of the Land of Israel. Vote with your feet, it WILL have an impact on who is the government.\nhttp://aliyahtoshiloh.blogspot.com/\nHillel Levin AliyahToShiloh@gmail.com ");
AddReply(261010,"Sammy, As a Christian, I have to agree whole heartedly","Chad Everson","Princeton","12/28/07","Sammy,\n \nIt is funny to me that the nation of Israel needs to be reminded of God.  \n\nIsn\'t that the biblical narrative?  \n\nI am a Christian, conservative Republican and realize the need for the same reminder in America and my Christian faith institutions as well as my Republican Party.  \n\nThat is the human condition.  It is all about forgetfulness in regards to our creator! \n\nI pray that Israel\'s leadership, as well as our American Leadership remembers God\'s ability to intercede, protect, bless and redeem.  \n\nThanks for the great insight Mr. Benoit!  \n\nIf Israel is not a Nation it is because they forgot their Religion!\n\n~Teddy Bear\n    ");
AddReply(260995,"Sammy, (jblogger, Yid)","Batya","eye of storm","12/28/07","The Zionists claimed that they had invented a \"new Jew,\" the non-observant kibbutznik as ideal.\n\nLast Shabbat Rav Yigal Kamenetzky, formerly of Neve Dekalim, was in Shiloh for a family simcha, and he said something interesting about it.  Those Zionist were horrified in recent years to discover that the new Jew had replaced his kova tembel for a crocheted kippah and had tzitziyot.  That was the basis of Disengagement, to destroy us, the \"dati le\'umi.\"");
AddReply(260966,"They Will Be Vomited Out Of The Land","Norman F Birnberg","Salida","12/28/07","Those who will not keep the Torah and G-d\'s Commandments will be vomited out of the Land.\n\nSince Israel\'s leaders do not know how to act like Jews, G-d will terminate their covenant with death and the devil. They will end being swallowed by their own lies and deceit.\n\nAm Yisrael Chai will however endure.");
AddReply(260963,"Moral Anchors","Bob Van Wagner","Washington Xing","12/28/07","Anchors are used in port, in a harbor safe from the storm.\n\nAt sea, what you want is a good, strong sharp keel, mast and canvas.\n\nToo many anchor polishers.  Need seamen.");

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