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AddReply(117872,"Response of a Christian","Dannel R. Ballesteros","Tampa, Florida USA","08/08/05","Dear Ms.Horowitz:\nFirst of all you have excellent command of the English language!\nI am a supporter of Israel for many reason, but mainly because our Bible begins with the Old Testament and introduces us to the Messiah. Even if you do not beieve that Jesus is the Messiah, we do and wait for His second coming. I love and pray for Israel daily.But I share your comments that we as Christians should respect your traditions, customs and beliefs.");
AddReply(117871,"I am not persona non grata","Yair","Santos","07/21/05","I love the land of Israel and jewish people even if somebody could hurt me so deeply.\nI am a christian, the unique class of gentile and goym, that never and never could live in Israel... we will be undesired people forever more.\nEven if I could open my heart like a open book,and all could read my thinks I would feel a persona non grata and it makes me give up.\nSo, I feel I am alone in my way!\nThis article made me wake up!\nI will keep reading articles like this...\nmore than 2 months to find out that ");
AddReply(117870,"JEHIEL","Joe Watson","Columbus, OH","07/02/05","Man, now I know why you guys are called stiff necked.  Why are you doing all your protest anyway, and why is it on the news everywhere?  Then when someone sees and offers help, even per your God advise to those who bless the Jews, you guys come off like \"better than thou\".  We are trying to help, not force you to become anything.  Don\'t be so insecure in your ability to dialog, we are not that darn snake begging you to trust in us.  Oh, I\'m not even a baptist - sorry!  I can\'t help but laugh after reading the old testiment and hearing these comments - How true Isaiah words are.  In love of G-d");
AddReply(117869,"Stereotypes","J.","TN","06/19/05","As a 24 yr old Christian reading these comments I am offended and aghast. I totally support Israel and I am aware of Christianity\'s horrenndous history withe Jews but to say the Bible teaches us to deceptively convert JEws is OUTRAGEOUS. This article stereotypes Christians. Thanks for the heads up..");
AddReply(117868,"It is happening","Aharon","Bronx, NY","05/26/05","http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=10945\n");
AddReply(117867,"Hi Volvie    :)","","","05/25/05","OK, I\'ll go do that :) We\'ll talk about it some day soon in Jeruselem huh?");
AddReply(117866,"50K Baptists","Elisheva","Fulton MO USA","05/24/05","Heart wrenching commentaries. While I believe that the land of Israel belongs to the tribes of Israel, I\'ve considered how far I would go to defend this belief. After reading notes from a man who wanted to learn from \"Judah\" what our fathers forgot...I realized there is no hope in my helping. As the saying goes: There are twelve tribes of Israel; Judah, Judah, Judah, Levi...Christians are getting a very bad report and history backs this up. But Judah, you\'ve never been to this \"place\" before in history. When will you say,\"Blessed is he who comes in the name...?\"");
AddReply(117865,"you will know them by their fruit --","claudia     :-)","colorado springs","05/24/05","a good tree can`t produce bad fruit.  conversly, a bad tree can`t produce good fruit. -- the 10 tribes will return, at the end of the age.  and they will be great in number.  but who are they?  (but they did not recognize joseph because of the egyptian clothes he wore.)  the Tanakh says the whole world will come against israel.  so why are some swimming against the tide?  it`s not what they say, it`s the works that they do. calmly observe.  ");
AddReply(117864,"Volvi, That was beautiful....","Volvi","","05/24/05","Thank you. You said; \"Over the six hundred word limit though, how\'d you do that? He, He :) Well I have a wise Jewish computer that told me that if I formulate my comments on Notepad then copy and paste them in the commentary box in one hit the non Jewish computers will never know I cheated. and Voila. Oy to be a Jew - what a blessing. Thats why Jews by and large can never be converted. A History of over 3000 years has proved that.So my fellow Jews fear not what Christians or anyone for that matter might say unto you or attempt to dissuade you from your path, for truth and righteousness is with you and is your path. Were it not the case - how come Jews still exist when others have long gone to the annals of history? If Christianity is right and God incarnated into J the man if all that gospel was, is the whole truth - dont you think that God would no longer need, preserve or protect the Jewish Nation?  Alas my Christian friends though I know truly your desire to serve the God of Israel I fear it is via Roman pagan beliefs that you do. Go study the origins that which they teach you not. Nevertheless God knows your heart and those that seek to be pure and can forgive your misguided paths to meet him for you know not the truth of the matter. Ironically today now more then ever in your history many are coming to learn of the Jewish Heritage and have even adopted some of its ways, yet cannot relinquish the hold of that false deity. But God can see beyond that and merit the righteous amongst you all. \"For my ways are not your ways\" so sayest Hashem The Eternal God of Israel. May our final Geula come Bim\'Heira B\'Yameinu V\'Nomar Amen.");
AddReply(117863,"Too close for comfort","Ben Temalion","Shiloh, MO USA","05/23/05","While not being Jewish, I have not been able to find comfort in the support for IL by those whose faith directs them to increase the flock by conversion.  At best, accept the support but keep them at arms length with the hope that they will respect you and continue their endeavours elsewhere.  It is very sad that while one people accepts the help of another in an existential battle the would be friend has a state goal to convert the other.  That\'s tolerance for you.  I have tried to defend these friends in the past only to find that there is reason to suspect a hidden agenda.");
AddReply(117862,"Strange Bedfellows","Asher","Loudoun County, VA","05/23/05","Evangelical Christians are taught from birth that Jews are spiritually unfulfilled, that the sole purpose of Israel is a catalyst to Armageddon, and that Christians have a responsibility to convert Jews to their way of thinking, i.e: to idolize Jesus as their savior and god.  These are the simple facts.  There are no \"gray areas\", no negotiations on these points.  If some Jews find this palatable, if others think it expedient to conveniently ignore the truth, so be it.  It\'s been nice knowing you... ");
AddReply(117861,"n/a","David Oseland","Skokie, IL","05/23/05","A very well done and articulate article regarding \"do 50,000 Baptists have a hidden agenda.\"  While I\'m not a member of a Baptist congregation, I am an \"evangelical Christian\" believer. I can\'t speak for all Christians or Baptists, as even we have differing views within the faith concerning Israel and the Jewish people. I do, however, know my own heart and mind, and I can say that I have no special \"witnessing agenda\" towards the Jewish people.  Please remember though that we take the words of the New Covenant literally, that is, to be witnesses of our faith, be it Jew or Gentile.");
AddReply(117860,"To: D Sabari--Trusting G-d","Eric","USA","05/23/05","Tell that to all the Holocaust victims.  6 million Jews trusted G-d and look what happened.  If the same thing happened to Christians, as happened to the Jew, I wonder how many would still retain their faith in G-d?  The Holocaust Jew prayed the very prayers for protection you cited (and more) and look what HaShem did.  Nothing.  He let His people, His chosen, be murdered.  Better for the enlightened Jew that they learn to trust in themselves and still pray to HaShem, but realizing that at least for the Jew the old saying \"G-d helps those who help themselves\" is most often the case.");
AddReply(117859,"And one more thing.....","Mark","ZA","05/23/05","Whatever Christians may believe, many doctrines are false.So when calamity strikes it will befall Jews and Christians alike. ");
AddReply(117858,"Fear, the subtle enemy","Jeremiah","Melbourne, FL","05/23/05","I am shocked at some of the comments on this story! So many of them rooted in fear. Fear is such a tiny seed but when it takes root its so easily cultivated. Before you know it poisons your heart and darkens your mind. There is unbelieveable evil in man\'s heart and it has been strongly exemplified through the great hatred of the Jewish people. However, do not let this drive you into a paralyzed fear-filled state of agony that closes you off from Hashem and others.Is the G-d of Israel not the true soveriegn \nG-d! Will He not protect His chosen people the Jews?  Has he not used gentiles before?");
AddReply(117857,"Mr. Rocklin ...I´ve Always wondered","Frank","Brooklyn","05/23/05","I could never figure out why Jews are worried about Christian missionaries while at the same time Christians have never been worried about any type of missionary. This is not the 15th century!! There are no swords (anymore)!! Why are Jews so worried about an intellectual arguement? Is it because their arguement is SO weak? Or worse is it because their faith is SO weak? ");
AddReply(117856,"No strings attached","Jeremiah","Melbourne, FL","05/23/05","I appluad you for your concern over this situation, and you have right to show caution based upon the unfortunate and dark history of the relationship of the Jews and Christians.  Many deceived and misguided people with evil intentions \"in Christ\'s name\", have left a cruel path filled with the blood of Jews.  Inspite of that tragic outrage Christians throughout the world are waking up and returning to the roots of our faith. There is a mass movement of sincere Christians who are embracing the Jews with no strings attached.  G-d is opening our eyes and hearts to love His chosen people!!! ");
AddReply(117855,"\'True xtians\'","Len","USA","05/23/05","While one can be an xtian and be good person, however the xtian belief is not the cause for it. If one bases their ideals on the xtian bible alone, then they are clearly and openly encouraged to try and convert all people to xtianity- whether directly or not. Actually, if they would take a lesson from the original xtians IN THEIR BIBLE, they would actually do it with deception, just as they did. They justified it as a means to an end. In addition, the xtian bible is also clearly anti-semitic. I dont think that these two points could be argued against. Again, no offense to INDIVIDUAL xtians, on");
AddReply(117854,"thoughts","L.W.","Coweta, Ok","05/23/05","when we don\'t learn from history, does history repeat itself or do people decide to repeat history through ignorance and hatred? is good willed toward the people or misplaced through good intentions?");
AddReply(117853,"first the saturday people,then the sunday people........","Jihad Joe","soon to be in your town..","05/23/05","");
AddReply(117852,"Volvi, That was beautiful.......","","","05/23/05","Over the six hundred word limit though, how\'d you do that? He, He :)");
AddReply(117851,"xxx,   xxxxxxxxxx is a real moron","","","05/23/05","");
AddReply(117850,"Well Put","Kathleen Flanagan","Phoenix, AZ","05/23/05","I appreciated the content and tone of Ms. Horowitz\'s position.  It is far more even-handed than many I read from yours pages about we Christians in Israel; articles that would lead one to believe that e-coli begins in the Christian soul.  But here I see an honest expression of concern, and rightfully so.  All too many of us - Jew and Gentile alike - have blurred, if not ulterior motives.  May the righteous deed prevail, and the righteous heart honor the Lord - whether Christian or Jew!   ");
AddReply(117849,"you should see the difference","Marlena Ariel Geren","Pittsburgh","05/23/05","between a Christian and a\"christian.\"\nChristianity has a shameful past due to christians that have not followed the teachings of Jesus.I myself am a Christian and my household has written letters to the President and its Senators to stand up for Israel. We have many Jewish friends in Israel and there is no agenda to christianize them.\nM.A.Geren");
AddReply(117826,"Jews and Christians","daniel antopolsky","augusta, georgia","05/23/05","I was raised in the deep South and it must be understood there are some wonderful people and Christian friends of Israel (many more in America than in Europe).  Just as we are commanded to teach our children the Shema and mitvots, they are commanded to proselytize.  However, when a Jew is as sure of his faith as the Christian is of his----a true Christian will recognize and respect the light of the 10 Commandments shining from the soul of those first to bear the call of monotheism.  The mutual respect will be there. When we live up to the Torah, all will fall in place as Hashem wills.");
AddReply(117848,"Convert the Jews","thunder seven","NM USA","05/23/05","I have heard pastors testamony that they would rather convert 1 jew than 10,000 pagans.  Israel must place faith ONLY in the G-d of Israel and not the god of the Xtians for their god comes with a price.  It always has, it always will.  The bloody Xtian alter will nerver save the Jewish people.  Though some my have good intentions, they will not be there to help the jews when their Xtian brothers want to cash-in on this sort of support.  They should help from a safe, non-missionizing distance & avoid encouraging pastors & people with hidden agendas to come to Israels rescue & get in the way.");
AddReply(117847,"let them come","Fivish","London","05/23/05","They are doing Hashems work! \nThey dont know it, but JC was a Jew who through Paul got the goyim to do the donkey work for the Jews. That they venerate JC as god is bizare but then they are not us. \nEvery civilised country has laws based on the Torah and have a similar moral and ethical code.  \nIf the christians want to help the Jews retian their G-d given land then good. \nI know of no Torah true Jew who would become a Christian, so why worry, i\'m not.  ");
AddReply(117846,"Be Thankful","D. Lillie","Jerusalem, Israel","05/23/05","I have lived in Israel for almost seven years as an Evangelican Christian leaving everything in the USA-houses,the lifestyle-sold it or gave it away-to come to Israel and be a blessing.I have spent many days in the Gush Katif settlement of Neve Dekalim and have experienced personally the terrorist assualts on this community.I know of many Evangelical Christians who have layed down their lives for this people/nation. These people are the best friends Israel, especially the residents of Gush Katif,ever had! Be thankful,lift your hands and praise the Lord for them.We are lifing you up in prayer!");
AddReply(117845,"To: Concerned Jew","Eric","USA","05/23/05","Not to worry.  Christianity has outgrown their perceived \'need\' to kill non-adherents.  You do not find Christians killing non-Christians like we see Muslims killing non-Muslims.  Conversions at the point of the sword are seen for what they are now, an oxymoron.  Christianity has progressed past that insipid behavior, Islam has not.  You Jews have nothing to worry about from modern Christianity.  We\'ve grown up.");
AddReply(117844,"The Jews have no problem...if...","Eric","USA","05/23/05","they merely ask the pastor to prove that his belief system is the truth.  Then, of course, the pastor (if he\'s smart) will turn that question around on the Jew.  At which point both parties (if they\'re smart) will suddenly realize they cannot prove a single tenet of their faith as having its source in G-d.  G-d has purposefully declined to prove-beyond-doubt which religion is the truth, and allows us argue and fight (stupidly) and even kill one another over that which we cannot prove.  G-d sits in the heavens and waits for human beings to grow up and enjoy their beliefs without killing others.");
AddReply(117843,"2 NOTIFICATIONS?  lol","JEHIEL","NYC","05/23/05","Many years ago - after a severe accident left me with the very real possibility of being permenantly crippled, I visited the Lubavitche Rebbe & asked him for a \"Refuah Shlemah \" so that I may be able to support my family.  He \ngave me $2.00 not the usual $1.00.  Today after writing to this paper in re:the \"invasion\" of 50,000 Baptists, I received 2 notices of its publication.  Were my comments equally as worthy now as my circumstances were 20 years ago? By the way I made a total & complete recovery & I believe due in no small part to the Rebbe\'s intercession,B\'H.");
AddReply(117842,"Ellen Horowitz on 50,000 Baptist","Rachel","Ohio","05/23/05","I\'m an frum Orthodox woman now, but my path to come home went thru several years of association with Evangelical churches, including a very large one called The Vineyard.  (In my area the largest branch was run by three Jewish men.)\n\n  Evangelical churches do not have a \"hidden\" agenda - at least to people who attend their church: They intend to convert every Jew to their beliefs.  It is repeated many times.  Also, many Evangelical churches support \"Jewish Christian\" churches whose sole reason for existence is to convert Jews to become \"fulfilled Jews.\" \n\n  \"Evangelize\" means \"convert or seek to convert (someone) to Christianity.\"  They will take every chance to do so.  Their dogma is that their g-d will come to banish the unbelievers to eternal punishment and bring eternal bliss to those who truly believe in him.  But there is a catch.  their scripture says that he must stand in the \"holy of holies\" to defeat satan and bring his kingdom.  But the \"holy of holies\" is of course part of the third temple, so to hasten their redemption they have to hasten the building of the third temple.  That\'s our job.  To take over the temple mount, tear down the mosque, build the new building, and then their g-d can come and win the war of armageddon, defeat satan, redeem the believers, and condemn all non-christians (that means us) to burn in hell for ever.\n\n  This is all basic Evangelical doctrine - of any Evangelical church.  Including Southern Baptists. (except the Northern Synod of the Evangelical Lutheran Church - see http://www.j-cinstitute.org/ChurchStatements/Lutheran_Guidelines.htm )\n\nI suggest that if anyone has doubts about their methods or beliefs,  they should run out and buy Rabbi Tovia Singer\'s tapes (www.outreachjudaism.org ).  They are excellent and totally correct.  Or listen to Motty Berger at aishaudio.com.  Or get Rabbi Skobac ( http://www.jewsforjudaism.com/ ) to come and speak to them.\n\n  Taking Evangelical Christian\'s proffered support is like having a car thief helping you fix your car.  Don\'t count on your car being there after he gets it running.\n");
AddReply(117841,"Only G-d can save!","Jeanene Von Hoffmann","Sacramento CA","05/23/05","Please know as a Christian I am in moral support of Israel not being divided and I do not believe that any person can save another soul, no matter how convincing we may try to be. That job belongs only to G-d. Please know that some may try but most of us just want to support and pray for the \"Peace of Jerusalem.\" and G-d\'s\'\"Chosen Ones.\"");
AddReply(117840,"Yehudit said;","Volvi","","05/23/05","\"In truth, the Jewish people needs no one but the G-d of Israel.\" Whilst I agree with that statement I am reminded about the joke of a man close to drowning at sea calling out \"Hashem I have full faith in you that you will save me\". After having rejected the assistance of 3 boats going by saying to them Thank you but I have complete faith in Hashem saving me therefore I dont need your assistance. After having drowned and standing before Hashem he bitterly complains \"Hashem I had so much faith in you to come and save me but you didnt and I drowned\" Fool - replies Hashem \"I sent you 3 seperate boats to save you and you turned them all down\" I guess the moral of the story or joke is that how are you to know whether any assistance rendered unto you may not be by Hashems hand? Sure \'Chabbed V\'Chashdehu\' were Jews were supposed to be wise and that is always the wise thing to do. Just dont be quick to write off any assistance given in whatever form, for you know not from whence it came. If I know one thing or anything about our God is that he works through us and other to do his bidding. People who sit back and wait for thunder claps and miracles dont know the ways of Hashem. I say unto any Christian who faithfully supports us without an agenda to sway us from our beliefs I say to them it is for the merit of thy soul and not ours that you do this good deed and it is to Hashem that I thank for rendering us assistance. So by all means \'save yourselves\'.");
AddReply(117839,"no it is not hidden -- it is open!","Aharon","Bronx, NY","05/23/05","The agenda is to convert Jews to Christianity! \n\nRemember that the independent Hasmonean kingdom ended when we asked the Romans for help. They never left.");
AddReply(117838,"Accept help with a gratitude","Yehudah","New England","05/23/05","Let them \"witness\".\nEvangelicals don\'t have a chance in the theological argument.\nI don\'t know of any observant Jew who became christian but I know many Southern Baptists who became gerim. \nThey are good people and we have to be grateful for their support.");
AddReply(117837,"We will you the best","Kristoffer Niclasen","Kolding - Denmark","05/23/05","People of Israel, people of G-d - you are concerned about Christians, and I understand your concern. How many so called \"Christians\" haven\'t backstabed the Jewish people? How many of you is not concerned that this will happen again? But I will, as a Christian myself, say this to you as G-d is my witness: \n\nThose who are calling themself Christians and backstabing the Jewish people - they are not Christians but is controlled by Satan. Those who are calling themself Christians and do not believe that all of Israel belongs to the Jewish people - they have misunderstood the bible completely.");
AddReply(117836,"For the record","Meir","United States","05/23/05","I\'d like to set something straight here. Xtianity is not at all a friend of the Jews in any way shape or form. They are actually the cause of millions of murders, tortures, and expulsions throughout history. This is not because they were bad then and not bad now; its because that was their method then, and it wouldnt work today. The new method is friendship and \'love\'. They prey primarily on uneducated Jews, and invented \'Jewish xtians\', which is a complete oxymoron. We, as Jews, must educate ourselves to our heritage and our Torah, and stand firm in our commitment to His direction for us.");
AddReply(117835,"From experience in Israel","Lenny","USA","05/23/05","I can tell you this: I would rather 50,000 suicide bomber Arabs, than these. The reason is simple: the Arabs want us dead, and they dont hide this. This you can stop. However the xtians want to kill the Jewish soul, and will never admit it. From the very first xtian in their bible, deceipt is a very normal means to convert. I have experience in trying to help a vulnurable Jewish teen in Jerusalem who they preyed upon, almost until he couldnt take it anymore. They didnt care about him at all- they cared about him, C\'V Lo\'A, believing like them. They would rather the Jew die than not believe it.");
AddReply(117834,"Trojan Horse or Knight in Shining Armor?","Rabbi Bentzion Kravitz","Jews for Judaism Los Ange","05/23/05","Ellen Horowitz raises some very good points and has good reason to be concerned. Jews for Judaism International is also very alarmed with  Evangelicals and Israel. Are they a Trojan Horse or a Knight in Shining Armor? To read Rabbi Michael Skobac\'s \"Hard Truth\" informative essay on this topic go to pages 2-3 of our latest newsletter at http://jewsforjudaism.org/web/pdf/LA_LifelinePassover2005.pdf ");
AddReply(117833,"A real concern","Denis Goyet","Tucson Arizona USA","05/23/05","Ms. Horowitz expresses some real concerns in this article. I mustadd a very sensible article and well put.Christians and Jews alike have worked long and hard to put down the enmitys\nbetween them. Yes there are thos ewhose only aim is to prosetylize unfortunately. However I would like to point out that these are a minority. Yet repect then amd suspect them to me is a very sensible approach. However let us keep sensibility and realize that the majority simply want Israel to flourish and are willing to do what it takes for that. On their part repecting and often suspecting.\n");
AddReply(117832,"Take the Devil\'s dime","xxx","xxxxxxxxxxxxx","05/23/05"," Hey, they want all the jews to move to Palestine so jesus will return. Then all the jews will convert--- OR ELSE. Simple enough for you? Convert --- or DIE.");
AddReply(117831,"Elon and Christian Zionists","Danny","Jerusalem","05/22/05","I trust Benny Elon to know how to deal with Evangelical Christian Zionists. If he says we should work with them than this is good enough for me.His eyes are wide open.");
AddReply(117830,"Do 50,000 Baptists Have a Hidden Agenda? by Ellen W. Horowitz","D  Sabari","USA","05/22/05","This article displays the heart not trusting G-d that is in Israel today.  When you trust in the L-ord, you have nothing to fear from anyone.  Just as King David tells us in  Psalms 13:5-6 \"But I trust in your loving kindness. My heart rejoices in your yeshu`ah.  (6)  I will sing to the L-RD, because he has been good to me.\"\nMoses tells us to seek G-d and He will direct our path.  Deuteronomy 4:29-31  \"But from there you shall seek the L-RD your G-d, and you shall find him, when you search after him with all your heart and with all your soul.\"");
AddReply(117829,"So what?","Mr. Rocklin","","05/22/05","Of course some of the Christian Zionists have an agenda and even if it was all of them so what! If they want to have missionaries in the Israel so be it. This will force Jews to become more committed and with the even half the number of 50,000 friends from America - will save Gush Katif (wih G-d\'s help of course). Jews should not be affraid of missionaries, if they are confident in themselves.");
AddReply(117828,"Let there be open, honest dialoge","Ruth","Florida","05/22/05","This article is greatly encouraging in that both the author and Vineyard whom she quoted made their positions very clear. In matters of faith there should be no guessing. As a Christian, I say, talk to us, get this in the open.\nI know Baptists are really big on \"evangelizing\", but the New testament gives Christians no warrant for turning our backs on anyone who does not \"convert\": it says \"preach the gospel\", but also to \"love our enemies\", and that the Jews are beloved whether or not they accept our gospel. Christians who do not unconditionally love and bless others misrepresent the gospel.");
AddReply(117827,"I agree","Leigh Anne","Farmington, Mo","05/22/05","I agree with Ellen Horowitz that some guidelines need to be in place.  While Isreal may need all the friends it can get, it must also decide if the \"friends\" are moving in a direction that is healthy for them to go together. \n\nThere are times I can respect a group and it\'s intentions but not be able to \"walk the specific path they walk\" because of major differences wether in background or mission.  ");
AddReply(117825,"re: be very concerned","Jane","Perth, WA","05/22/05","you should not worry about \"Christian agenda\" if you think it means something that might try to change Judaism. This isn\'t so. It might have been like that a while ago, but not now. There is change happening fast. Christians like me seek to serve and help only. HaShem is the BOSS, not me.  ");
AddReply(117823,"Why is it easier for Israel to accept a spiritualism...","Delaney","Fort Worth, TX","05/22/05","...that is secular, as it has, than to consider certain Messianic aspects that would motivate Christians to extend their love in ways that extraordinarily defy the dangers in the Land in these days?  Perhaps, with a little compromise, the Greco-Roman names and traditions could be cast off, and Hebraic -oriented viewpoint could be shared by both.  Hence, casting off pagan traditions, a more Hebraic view of Moshiach could be shared; and be more palatable to both camps, while accepting the much-needed loving support, generosity, and friendship.  Just a thought...\nShalom, shalom!");
AddReply(117824,"Speaking from experience","Yitzchok Yosef","Brooklyn, NY","05/22/05","as a former Southern Baptist Pastor who became a ger, your article is right on.  Israel is looking in all the wrong places for \"friends.\"  May HASHEM help in the days ahead.  May He continue to bless you in your work.  Keep writing and speaking the truth.  Thank you.");
AddReply(117822,"Be very CONCERNED","Concerned Jew","Vancouver","05/22/05","Christianity - regardless of faction - is based on \'hidden agendas\' when it comes to us.  Islam - is straight forward when it comes to us.  Conversion (with the second option to kill) is the main strategdy of Christianity, while death in the main strategdy for Islam when it comes to \'dealing\' with us, Jews.  So yes!!  Watch your back.  All these \'good\' jesters are not for our \'good\' it\'s part of their long term planning.  Be very aware, and very concerned!!");
AddReply(117821,"We Don\'t Need \'Em","Yehudit","Yerushalayim","05/22/05","Ellen, you were doing fine and then it looks like you felt the need to double back on your argument and take a more pragmatic (read \"pc\") approach.  We already have some national religious rabbis on record as being against interfaith activities as well as accepting xian \"support.\"  Asking missionaries to police themselves is like asking the fox to guard the chickenhouse.  If these people want the blessing that comes from helping the Jewish people let them be satisfied with a supporting role, from a distance, not starring roles.  In truth, the Jewish people needs no one but the G-d of Israel.");
AddReply(117820,"I completely agree with ellen .leah","leah bar-lewaw","etobicoke","05/22/05","Ellen is right.");
AddReply(117819,"LOL!  How Ironic!...","Ziporah","Oklahoma","05/22/05","after 2000 years of the goyim saying to us \"welcome! Bring your money and expertise!\" then, when they\'re incredibly indebted to us, \"Thanks a bunch for the money, support and effort, guys, now CONVERT, LEAVE OR DIE\"...  what goes around comes around.  \nStick with the advice of the sages - there\'s a REASON their wisdom is sought after! - \"RESPECT HIM AND SUSPECT HIM\".");
AddReply(117818,"Be concerned, but take the help!","Victor Passenheim","Orlando, FL","05/22/05","I understand and I agree with Mrs. Horowitz\'s concern and the wisdom of the sages.  However, I would pose this question to her:  In your dealings with Zionist Christians, how many expressed a desire to \"proselytize\" you, or any other Jew for that matter, against your wishes?  I would expect that most, if not all Zionist Christians are not motivated in this manner.  They would rather steer away from the topic altogether and make the focus the well-being of their Jewish brethren and how they can help toward that end.  Barring a preponderant amount of evidence indicating otherwise, take the help!");
AddReply(117817,"Dear Ellen:  Peace be upon you.","Mary","","05/22/05","I too am a Christian who knows with all my heart that the Land of Israel belongs to Israel for forever. I pray every day that the cause of The Holy Covenant will be maintained upon this earth. I have no desire to change your system of beliefs. I love The Holy Laws too. Two can be friends and bound together as one to help in your cause without one attempting to change your most  unique qualities that are the essence of who your are. I am not a Baptist and would not know if your suspicions are founded, but my instincts tell me that a friend in need is a friend in deed.  Accept my hand.  Shalom ");
AddReply(117816,"Ellen","","","05/22/05","This is much more than a disagreement between brothers.");
AddReply(117815,"who pays the piper calls the tune","John Kennedy","Haifa, Israel","05/22/05","Self-support by Jews is a crucial principle in the long-term survival of a Jewish state. Our security cannot depend on Christian support (no matter how nice) or on the Egyptian border police. ");
AddReply(117814,"CREATORS OF JEWS FOR JESUS","JEHIEL","NYC","05/22/05","THESE SELF DESCRIBED RELIGIOUS INDIVIDUALS  WHO ARE NOW DEMONSTRATING THEIR INSIDIOUS BRAND OF JEW HATRED AT THE US AIR FORCE ACADEMY HAVE NO BUSINESS IN ERETZ ISRAEL. ARE WE SO INSECURE IN OUR FEELINGS ABOUT OTHER PEOPLES THAT WE NEED ASSIST THOSE WHOSE STATED AGENDA IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE OVEN STUFFERS OF NAZI GERMANY? NAMELY THE DESTRUCTION OF JUDAISM AS WE KNOW IT, TO BE REPLACED BY THE INSIDIOUS CREATURE OF BAPTIST CREATION; NAMELY THE SO-CALLED \"JEWS FOR JESUS\".\nWE MUST ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT; THE PATH TO JUDAISM DOES NOT PASS THROUGH THE BLOODIED ALTARS OF CHRISTIANITY!");
AddReply(117813,"Is Israel selling herself out ??","Sanda Abramovici-Lam","Lima-Peru","05/22/05","I think she sometimes does and it is shameful, we don\'t need and want the money that comes with a future pay off. Jews and Israelis are naive if they think that the various Christian groups don\'t have the agenda of converting all jews under their hat !! Please do something about it !! I t seems more Jews are lost to Peace than to war !!");
AddReply(117812,"If Jewish people were as committed as the Baptists ...","JP Sutton","NYC","05/22/05","... they wouldn\'t be able to \"witness\", convert, or otherwise harrass us with their beliefs. Whenever a holy-roller type approaches me (and they do), I start the conversation by reciting Shema. If that doesn\'t dissuade them I start to read Tehillim to them. None of them has ever had the patience or interest to stick around past the second Psalm. I\'ve also engaged them in discussion, but you need to know your \"stuff\" to do this. Perhaps this is a clarion call for Jewish people to learn their \"stuff\" and to have the courage to express it. (Along with appreciation to true Christian friends.)");
AddReply(117811,"Look at it in reverse","rlp","","05/22/05","Since these Christians ultimately believe that Israel needs to be here for Their messiah to come you could say they are \"taking\" all the help they can get rather than vice versa - we need to be suspect - we need to strengthen ourselves - to come back to HKBH - as to number 1 - tragic as this disengagement is HKBH runs the world and we don\'t know if undoing it with the help of evangelicals would ultimately bring good or evil upon us  - our vision is too limited");
AddReply(117810,"Do 50,000 Baptists Have a Hidden Agenda?","Steven Braitman","Guttenberg, NJ 07093 (USA","05/22/05","I think the issue is for the Jews, not for the Baptists or Evangelicals.  Jews, like everyone, have a choice of beliefs.  If we Jews won\'t do our job of developing the right approaches so that more Jews will CHOOSE Judaism, that is our fault, period.  It is unreasonable and unrealistic to ask Evangelicals who are sure they are \"correct\" not to proselytize.  And if we do not WORK to make our Truth prevail over their \"truth\", what could possibly be a worse chillul Hashem?  All the money that we waste could be put into day schools, kiruv etc.  So if we complain, we should complain to the mirror.");
AddReply(117809,"Looking in Wrong Direction ?","Marcel","Florida","05/22/05","The number seems over inflated and I see alot of hype .Even if it is all well meaning and sincere ,Jeremeiah 17,5 meakes it clear where our trust and focus should be.How many times has Israel gotten her hopes up for men (USA) to do the right and honorable thing for Israel only to be let down ?\nAs  a Christian,I urge the faithful of Israel to trust and call upon their God and not rely too much on orange T-shirts and large numbers. Hashem never worked thru large numbers ,He always needed just a few faithful to Him. ");
AddReply(117808,"Take any help you can get!","me","","05/22/05","With something like this where the disengagement will most likely be successful you need all the help you can get. It would be very foolish not to accept the help.");

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