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Audio: The Infamous “T” Word


Interview with Dr. Martin Sherman on applying a popuation transfer in Israel.
9/9/2012, 9:42 AM

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The idea of population transfer in order to eliminate friction between various ethnic groups was very popular during the 20th century. The transfer of Greek Christians to Greece in exchange for Turkish Moslems who went to Turkey resulted in award of the Nobel Peace Prize to the Norwegian explorer Fridtjof Nansen who came up with the idea.

Millions of Moslems and Hindus were exchanged when India received its independence and Pakistan was created after the Second World War. Many ideas were proposed to move populations around in the Fertile Crescent to eliminate points of friction between populations that could not get along with each other. Most of the transfers that took place, although creating hardships for many people, were considered to be needed in order to prevent war and bloodshed.

The State of Israel forcibly transferred Jews out of Gaza in the mistaken idea that it would somehow bring peace to Israel’s borders. However, whenever the idea is raised to transfer Arabs, it is considered politically incorrect to even mention the “T” word. When Meir Kahane and Rehavam Zehavi suggested it they were branded as racists. However, Dr. Martin Sherman has come up with a plan that, although presently politically incorrect, may be doable in the foreseeable future. The outline of his plan is described by Dr. Sherman in an interview with Jay Shapiro this week.

Dr. Martin Sherman and Jay Shapiro







Jay Shapiro is the author of six books on Israeli politics, the Middle East, Judaism and aliyah. He is a columnist and frequently lectures in Israel and the United States. He was previously a physicist at a major Israeli firm and served as an aliyah shaliach for the Jewish Agency in America. His show has been on Israel National Radio since 1998. The Jay Shapiro Podcast airs every Sunday from 6:00 p.m. – 7:00 p.m. Israel time on Israel National Radio.
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